you know what, Meatloaf? Actually, now I think about it... two out of three IS bad

[fryalot]

so get over it and learn to love again.

selfish twat

I'm with you

"I want you, I need you but there ain't no way I'm ever gonna love you"

I'm not a fecking Mars bar mate

ah squonk, tis coz he loves me

LOL

harley - when you kissed him and got out of your bed, you could have mentioned that he should move on some day!

Can you not send him a text or something?

My sister had me convinced for ages that his real name was John Meatloaf. the sad thing is i only found out a few months ago that it isn't.

Wasn't that the point?

Can I ask - what is it that he won't do for love?

(Don't get that song)

aaah, charlee, bless ye my sweet.

any fule no he's Mark Meatloaf

P&L - probably

B&J - diet

he pleaded and he begged me not to walk out the door, i packed my bags and turned right away
he kept telling me he'd do anything for love, but he wouldnt do that..now what use is that to me

and you were off like a bat out of hell, weren't you! with never a thought for the poor, damaged chap!

I've always wondered that too Benny.

But was it paradise when you were by the dashboard light?

He will never

• forget the way that she feels right now
• forgive himself if they don't go all the way tonight
• do it better than he does it with her
• forget everything and see that it's time to move on
• fall down(?) and sooner or later be screwing around

not even for love. Apparently.

Right - off out for redundancy meeting

If any of you lovely meatloaf groupies want to bump my thread for me while I am out that would be great

Ah the false dichotomy

The baseball sequence in this song leaves little ambiguity as to the context: boy meets girl, boy wants to have sex with girl, girl wants promise of commitment, nay, marriage, before consenting to sex. She asks a cut-and-dry question:

?What?s it gonna be boy: yes or no??

This may appear to be an actual dichotomy: the girl seems adamant that unless the boy says he loves her and promises to marry her, she will not have sex with him tonight.

BUT: remember the baseball analogy? The play-by-play states that the situation is ?two down (out), nobody on, no score, bottom of the ninth.? The runner is trying to steal home and win the game. If he?s safe at the plate, then game over, he wins. If he?s out, though, he doesn?t necessarily lose. Instead, the game goes to EXTRA INNINGS.

The boy realizes this and tries to postpone the decision by sleeping on it and getting back to the girl in the morning. (This makes this song unique in that it internally acknowledges the false dichotomy.) Unfortunately, logic is no match for hormones. Our narrator says yes, swears upon his mother?s grave, and now wishes for the apocalypse to come.

i think this is relevant

theres lots of things he wont do, really...
theres a new that in every verse
and i have to say, jim steinman is a legendary lyricist..what a team!

But I'll never forget the way you feel right now, oh no, no way
And I would do anything for love, but I won't do that, I won't do that

But I'll never forgive myself if we don't go all the way tonight
Oh I would do anything for love, but I won't do that, no I won't do that

But I'll never do it better than I do it with you, so long, so long
I would do anything for love, but I won't do that, no no no I won't do that

But I'll never stop dreaming of you every night of my life, no way
I would do anything for love, but I won't do that, no I won't do that

[Girl:] After a while you'll forget everything
It was a brief interlude and a midsummer night's fling
And you'll see that it's time to move on

[Boy:] I won't do that! No I won't do that!

[Girl:] I know the territory, I've been around
It'll all turn to dust and we'll all fall down
And sooner or later, you'll be screwing around

[Boy:] I won't do that! No I won't do that!

Anything for love, oh I would do anything for love
I would do anything for love, but I won't do that, no I won't do that

So he's saying he won't consider this a fling or screw around? He wouldn't do that for love? (Love meaning sex?)

I thought it was some sort of filthy sex practice

perhaps he is chatting to a Liberal Democrat?

Well, he's saying that (a) he'll do anything for love, BUT that (b) he won't do any of those things (as summarised in my post of 13:43).

I am gently LOL at his being described as "Boy", mind you (much as DS describes all women, no matter how ancient, as girls (or, more accurately, gews)).