Anyone else feeling sick waiting to see what the PIP cuts will be?

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Wondering if I will still be able to pay for the numerous services and things my disabilities necessitate.
I think, given I have such severe issues, that I may be one of the “lucky” ones as from what I have read so far I would still have enough pip points plus I am older and have stage 4 cancer (separate to my other significant disability) but who knows.
Even if I escape the cull I am sad and scared for others who may lose their award.

Off topic but I would think a person would be in a secure relationship before contemplating bringing children into the world no matter what their health status. Back to lack of personal responsibility.

For those posters who have an issue with haircuts, if you are expecting disabled people to get back into work, do you honestly think an employer is going to hire someone who looks unkempt? Someone with tatty horrible hair and nails? With uncontrollable (if a man or woman with PCOS) facial hair, which may look unsightly or be a health and safety risk depending on the job? So you would ban barbers and hairdressers for disabled people on benefits ?

Seriously? We have to look nice to be employable. I doubt even in this day and age many employers would except someone with a tangle of hair in their face. Some days I can't raise my arms to style long hair, due to my disability so it is just to my shoulders. It can grow into a huge curly bush if too short, too long and I can't raise arms or it's heavy on days I could physically be pain free and strong enough to tie it up. I need layers cut into it or it grows sideways!

Have you never heard of divorce, or a relationship breaking down, or people dying. There are lots of reasons why people may have children, and no support. Are you unable to utilise some critical thinking, for some reason?

The only change I can see is that at least one of the descriptors needs to score 4 points, the rest can be 2. PIP and DLA were introduced to support people with a severe disability and there are many people who are awarded PIP with 4 x 2 points who would never have qualified under the DLA criteria.

They should also look to stop wasting money on the totally inadequate assessment system and improve the quality of the process. Currently it is very much computer says no.

honestly if I see the words "severe" or "genuine" one more time I'm gonna scream

Well your disability is obviously such that you can support yourself via work. So not seriously disabled in other worlds.
Not all disabled people are so lucky.

Indeed😁.

Working doesn’t mean you’re not seriously disabled.

My employer is actually pretty good in respect of employing people with disabilities. I work with someone with severe cerebral palsy, someone else with complete vision loss and several people with missing limbs. Which of those would you consider not to be a serious disability?

Widowed? Divorced?

What about this scenario? Charming man sweeps a vulnerable disabled lady off her feet, they get on so well! He buyś her gifts, wines and dines her. They get married or move in together. After the honeymoon period one day the man gets in a mood, kicks the cat, and the door and screams in the lady's face. She reasons it is her fault and tried to appease him. They make up, he says sorry. For a while, things are calm, they have children together. Then the abuse happens again. And again. He starts shouting at the children, they are terrified of him and showing signs of behavioural issues.

One day he puts his hands or a belt on her throat and squeezes . A neighbour calls the police, the man is arrested them released on bail .The woman knows she has to get out with the kids. She does so. But her disability means she can't work and now she has PTSD to deal with on top of that. she leaves the safe house and moved into a flat with her kids but she hasn't a chance of work.

Do tell me, what is a woman like that to do? My mother had no idea my dad was abusive until the honeymoon. This is a common scenario played out day after day for many people. My mother was able bodied. But many are not.

and do they get Pip ?
Cos according to some they don't need it

Some disabilities are more severe than others. It’s perfectly reasonable and legitimate to talk about that.

Oh no I know that, and I agree. I'd consider myself moderately disabled overall, probably.
I just mean the people who respond to anyone worried about the cuts by saying "severe" or "genuine" claimants have nothing to worry about, the implication being that if you're stressing about losing your PIP, you're obviously either not properly disabled or a scammer.

I'm shocked and disheartened by the comments on this thread, well I am used to them but the fact that this is the disabilities section and these virws are from fellow disabked women are mind blowing

DLA is / was always for people who have higher care needs than the average person. It has never only been for the most severe disabilities because any disability is expensive. And that’s why there are different rates.

A lot of people like to rewrite history 🙄

It's not just your responsibility, that's why we have a social security system.

For some people, a pet is their only reliable source of love and company. The only lifeform I have interacted with in 48 hours is CatOfHate. When you consider how vulnerable disabled people are to "cuckooing", where criminals pretend to be their friends only to use their homes as drug storage, suggesting that disabled people give up beloved pets and become even more lonely is irresponsible because doing so would increase their loneliness and vulnerability to these criminals.

And that's before you consider the mental health benefits that pets provide.

Should I have to explain how I spend my 25% single occupant council tax rebate? Should my parents have to explain how they spend their State pensions? Should my unemployed neighbour have to explain how she spends her UC that she gets as a jobseeker?

Why should disabled people be more accountable than anyone else? Again, an attack on our privacy that no one else is expected to endure.

I get support to keep my job through Access For Work, a tax-funded scheme. Are you suggesting that I don't have pride? Or is it only when the taxpayer's money benefits the claimant instead of their employer that you take issue?

When you are done with that crystal ball of yours that lets a disabled woman predict with absolute certainty what a man will be like in twenty years' time and also lets her know when she will be widowed, can I borrow it to get next week's lottery numbers?

I think Labour are going to have to rethink. Council tax will skyrocket if these cuts go ahead, due to councils paying out discretionary housing payments and the like. A lot of councils will go bust, then there will be no services for anyone.
It will also impact the NHS massively. This doesn't work for any of us.

Right Wing Women by Andrea Dworkin explains how women will side against other women in the hope of crumbs from the patriarchy. There's probably an equivalent book to be written about how disabled people will throw other disabled people under the bus.

I agree because disabled people who live in supported living, like my adult dd have very high care bills. ATM, the council is able to ask her to pay a contribution from her benefits based on a calculation. So that helps our council to pay towards what is an eye watering amount of money.

People in supported living also usually have their rent paid by the council and do not receive an amount from Universal Credit for this.

If her PIP is cut though, or her LCWRA, all that will happen is that the council will have to pick up the tab and that money won’t come from central government any more.

I can’t see how it’s going to work long term - it amounts to rearranging deck chairs and causing problems elsewhere. Because the responsibility falls on individual councils who are about bankrupt already.

As you say, the only thing they can do is to put council tax up (again).

If you have to agree to your own inferiority to gain respect and a seat at the table, then that’s not going to work. (Erika Heidewald)

I also think a lot of the ableist views being pushed on here are from 'bad actors' of course I'll probably be reported for saying it. I don't think most people have these extreme views.

If you have to agree to your own inferiority to get respect, you don't actually get respect. You only have respect from people if they continue to treat you decently when you say "no", stand up for yourself, and otherwise disagree with them.