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AngelieMumsnet · 14/08/2013 15:01

This thread is for the 30 MNers trying out the new Mobile by Sainsbury's service.

Below are the questions we'd like testers to answer but please feel free to add your own comments too.

  • How do you find the signal coverage? Is it reliable? Have you had any issues with this?
  • How has your family been using the service? i.e. is it you or your DC/DP who has the handset? How useful have you/they found the Mobile by Sainsbury's service?
  • Do you think that the Nectar offer of double points on all of your shopping for 30 days each time you purchase a bundle makes the service more desirable or not?
  • How have you found the Mobile by Sainsbury's customer care?
  • If it came up in conversation, would you recommend this network to your friends or not?
  • Bearing in mind that the bundle of 200 minutes/unlimited texts/250 MB data costs £10, do you think that the service is good value for money or not?




Everyone who was part of the test and who adds their feedback will be entered into a prize draw where one winner will get a £100 Sainsbury's voucher as a thank you.

Thanks,

MNHQ
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DelayedActionMouseMaker · 15/08/2013 23:30

Got to agree with that too. I find this phone so annoyingly out of date and bereft of any funtionality that I may have to bite the bullet and buy one on a normal tariff just so I can use the web. That was kind of why I asked to be a tester, I was very excited about the prospect of getting something decent.

Still the phone I got will do for dd when she goes to sleepover etc (though she'll hide it because of its lack of cool!:) )

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DelayedActionMouseMaker · 15/08/2013 23:30

Oh and the quality thing, this phone is so crackly, but its hard to know if its the phone or the coverage.

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Fanjango · 16/08/2013 00:10

Okay, first thoughts . Setting up the call payment, nectar card and bundle was fairly easy . The rolling bundle would be better, O2 use different call bundles that are automatically set when you top up, much easier than trying to remember to do both!
The network coverage is fairly good so far. Local village 2 miles away has no signal but that's pretty normal for any network than O2 but the town 15 miles away (in the other direction) has better signal than my O2 phone. That was a surprise as my friends all bemoan the signal on the coast.
Having looked at the coverage maps vodaphone look to have a largely similar coverage to O2 so quite good.
It is a shame this phone is not mobile Internet compatible because there have been some complaints about the coda phone service locally, vodaphone having told customers it was a fault caused by upgrades for the 4g service, customers have had to revert to 2g to gain any mobile Internet at all . If I can get access to a smart phone that is unlocked I would like to test he service because its a real turn off for those of us the surf on the go! In defence of vodaphone the local paper has their assurance that they are looking into it but its a shame I can't confirm wether this is the case for sainsburys users as the basic phone provided means I can't test it!
I will continue to test the signal strengths etc but so far so good on that score.

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Breezy1985 · 16/08/2013 08:48

It is a shame we didn't get a phone with the internet, we use whatsapp alot to keep in touch with family and send pics etc, so I am planning on upgrading DD phone at Christmas as she was hoping to have a camera and whatsapp, I would of stayed on this bundle however now I'll be looking at other bundles and costs of phones too.

Had yet more promo text yesterday, have I missed away to turn them off?

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SweetSeraphim · 16/08/2013 12:54

How do you find the signal coverage? Is it reliable? Have you had any issues with this?

The signal coverage is really good actually. DD has used it out and about (although none of this has been in remote areas) and there has been no problems with the coverage at all.

How has your family been using the service? i.e. is it you or your DC/DP who has the handset? How useful have you/they found the Mobile by Sainsbury's service?

It's my 15 yr old dd that has the handset, she has used it to call/text me & DP and all good.

Do you think that the Nectar offer of double points on all of your shopping for 30 days each time you purchase a bundle makes the service more desirable or not?

I was already a Nectar card user before the test, but it wouldn't really make all that much difference to me as I don't do my main shop at Sainsburys.

How have you found the Mobile by Sainsbury's customer care?

I haven't had cause to speak to anyone in customer care, the top-up service was quite easy to use - although it's a bit faffy with the menu options tbh.

If it came up in conversation, would you recommend this network to your friends or not?

Hmm. It's an ok network, but doesn't really stand out from any of the main ones.

Bearing in mind that the bundle of 200 minutes/unlimited texts/250 MB data costs £10, do you think that the service is good value for money or not?

I would say not. Purely because the £10 bundle includes 250MB of data which we can't test or use as the phone is not internet enabled.

Overall - it's ok. But as it seems that the vast majority of us have been sent handsets that aren't internet enabled, it's impossible to fully test the service, because that's probably what most of our dc would use it for.

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Fillybuster · 16/08/2013 14:41

First off, I'd like to say thank you Thanks to MN and Sainsbury's for selecting me to take part in this trial :) I have the Galaxy Fame, which is probably fab but I'm finding pretty hard to use!

  • How do you find the signal coverage? Is it reliable? Have you had any issues with this?


It's fine, but I live in NW London and have been using Vodafone services (white labelled and direct) for about 6 years. In fact, Vodafone tend to supply the best coverage around my area - it's a bit of an Orange black hole!

  • How has your family been using the service? i.e. is it you or your DC/DP who has the handset? How useful have you/they found the Mobile by Sainsbury's service?


I've been using it, as I only have a work Blackberry: my company have started charging for personal calls, so I was keen to try a PAYG service and a different handset.

It would be more useful if I could work out how to transfer all my Outlook contacts off my server/Blackberry and onto the Galaxy handset, and if I could work out how to install my Hotmail and Facebook accounts onto the handset. I suspect this is me being quite dim, but the total lack of instruction manual doesn't help: I have now found it online, so will spend some time getting to grips with it over the weekend.


  • Do you think that the Nectar offer of double points on all of your shopping for 30 days each time you purchase a bundle makes the service more desirable or not?


Probably, but its hard to say this early on as I've never had a Nectar card before and normally shop in Tesco. It will take more than double points for me to shift supermarket, although I can imagine starting to stop by Sainbo's more often on my way home if I'm going to collect points. It would have been helpful to be instructed to link the Nectar card before topping up the phone, as I'm another one who missed those points by topping up first.


  • How have you found the Mobile by Sainsbury's customer care?


I've spoken to them a few times, as I'm another one who didn't have the Sainsbury's network pre-installed on the phone. I followed the set up instructions, like Groovee, but in my case the mobile data never turned on. After a very frustrating 48 hours I call the customer care number.

a) It shouldn't cost 'up to 25p' to access customer support. I find this enormously off-putting and probably the biggest barrier to entry in terms of this being an accessible/attractive product

b) The first customer care conversation (with Charlotte) was fine, but didn't resolve the problem. Apparently she didn't realise that the Android platform cannot receive settings by text message.

c) The second conversation (with Chris) was great, but I waited another 24 hours to follow up an unresolved problem due to the cost of the call.

d) Chris solved the problem (although it was complicated to install the new service and would have been simpler to instruct me to select Vodafone!) and was enormously helpful. As someone else commented, he definitely seemed to 'care'.

e) The IVR for top up and bundle selection is absolutely impossible to follow and should be reviewed. As with others, common sense suggests that if you put £10 onto a PAYG SIM then you should be automatically allocated the £10 bundle. In fact, doing anything else feels a bit 'underhand', as though Sainsbury's want to catch customers out and charge them substantially more for un-bundled calls and texts.

  • If it came up in conversation, would you recommend this network to your friends or not?


The Vodafone network is great, but I'm not sure that Sainsbury's are adding any value to the service (except for the nectar points) at the moment.

  • Bearing in mind that the bundle of 200 minutes/unlimited texts/250 MB data costs £10, do you think that the service is good value for money or not?


It's not bad, but I've done a bit of shopping around and there are several better bundles on the market. At the moment, both the differentiation (i.e. why buy from Sainsbury's rather than Vodafone direct) and the market/value proposition (cost, value for money, customer experience) feel fairly weak.
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Groovee · 16/08/2013 14:59

Filly, I've sent you a PM x

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mammal · 16/08/2013 17:41

Thank you for selecting me as a tester.

I was sent the Galaxy y to test.

A Mobile by Sainsbury's starter pack was included with the phone. This included quick-start instructions, a more detailed guide and a top-up card.


The starter pack opens up to the quick-start instructions: 1. Insert SIM 2. Top-up 3. Buy a bundle. I liked the step-by-step guide and thought the need to link credit to bundle was made clear. However, as mobile and nectar card need to be linked before you buy a bundle to get double points, it would be helpful if this were added as a step in the quick-start instructions.

The detailed guide has information on how to top-up; price structure; how to check your balance; setting up picture messaging and internet; useful phone numbers.

How do you find the signal coverage? Is it reliable? Have you had any issues with this?

The signal coverage has been excellent. I can make calls from home, which I have been unable to do with my current provider (EE). The calls are clear and there has been no intermittent loss of signal mid-call, which is another problem I have had with other providers. Texts have also been sent and received quickly every time.

How has your family been using the service? i.e. is it you or your DC/DP who has the handset? How useful have you/they found the Mobile by Sainsbury's service?

Mainly me, DH has also tried it. The only criticism we have is that we have found the mobile internet slow to load, though the phone is also relatively slow when connecting via our WiFi so this may be an issue with the phone rather than a problem with Sainsbury's service.

Do you think that the Nectar offer of double points on all of your shopping for 30 days each time you purchase a bundle makes the service more desirable or not?

Our main weekly shop is with Sainsbury's and we often buy fuel there too so this is very attractive to us. Luckily I connected the phone with our Nectar card before I purchased the bundle so I am receiving double points but I do agree with other posters that the need to register the card before connecting credit to bundle should be made plainer in the instructions.

How have you found the Mobile by Sainsbury's customer care?

I haven't had a need to contact Sainsbury's customer care yet. However, I would like calls to customer service to be free of charge.

If it came up in conversation, would you recommend this network to your friends or not?

Absolutely. I am seriously considering switching to Sainsbury's permanently. I have been impressed by the improved reception and double nectar points.

Bearing in mind that the bundle of 200 minutes/unlimited texts/250 MB data costs £10, do you think that the service is good value for money or not?

Yes, though I would like one or two alternative £10 bundles, e.g. the option of less call time but more data.

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Tortoise · 17/08/2013 10:45
  • How do you find the signal coverage? Is it reliable? Have you had any issues with this?


Unfortunately Sainsburys use the same network as my talk talk mobile so I still get a fair bit of dropped signal. None on town when I'm most likely to need it if teenage DSs are at home. Some areas it has been fine and a perfect signal.

  • How has your family been using the service? i.e. is it you or your DC/DP who has the handset? How useful have you/they found the Mobile by Sainsbury's service?


I've been using it and overall not a bad service.

  • Do you think that the Nectar offer of double points on all of your shopping for 30 days each time you purchase a bundle makes the service more desirable or not?


Only if you currently shop regularly at Sainsburys and already collect Nectar points.

  • How have you found the Mobile by Sainsbury's customer care?


N/A Haven't needed to use the customer care service.

  • If it came up in conversation, would you recommend this network to your friends or not?


Yes I think I would as the bundles are good but I'd probably recommend Giff Gaff first as my dc get great signal from them and free texts/calls to anyone else on their network.

  • Bearing in mind that the bundle of 200 minutes/unlimited texts/250 MB data costs £10, do you think that the service is good value for money or not?


I think they are good value but an option for phones without internet services would be good.

Overall we found top up and bundle set up very easy. Just a few connection issues, especially with internet but that's because of Vodafone network.

Thank you for selecting me to test it. Smile
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stephgr · 19/08/2013 21:39

This is a bit of extra feedback now that I've had the phone for a week!

I haven't had any problems making calls (signal has been fine). The only complaint I have is the number of text messages I've had from Sainsburys offering me different things they want me to pay for such as a personalised voicemail which costs 25p. The messages are very annoying and some are irrelevant. I spoke to customer services 1 week ago and explained I have a phone which can't access the internet because it's a very basic handset. A few days later sainsburys send me a message about using the internet!

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Groovee · 20/08/2013 09:07

Ds is away to camp this week so I'm using it to see how it is. The last time he got a text message was the 17th saying they hoped he liked the tips they sent and any more help can be found on the website or by calling them at a cost of 25p. Not had any since.

I find the signal good and also it's very clear when talking on the phone too.

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AngelieMumsnet · 20/08/2013 17:28

Thanks for all your comments so far :) Sainsbury's have asked us to post the following message in response to some of the questions raised on this thread:

"Q. Why do you need to call and load £10 credit, and then call back again to activate your £10 bundle?^
A. Mobile by Sainsbury?s is committed to delivering a service that is as simple and stress-free as possible. You can activate a topup and buy a bundle in the same call but to do this you have to press 1 to return to the main menu. We recognise that the process can be improved and we are looking at how we can make it a seamless process. Hopefully you will see the improvements soon.

Q. Has anyone else had difficulty with customer service?
A. Mobile by Sainsbury?s is committed to delivering excellent customer service ? we strive to be as friendly, helpful and efficient as possible. We?re sorry to hear this wasn?t the case with you ? if you could let us know your mobile number by emailing [email protected] then someone from Mobile by Sainsbury?s team will get in touch with you directly to discuss your problem further.

Q. Why do you charge 25p per minute for customer service?
A. Mobile by Sainsbury?s is committed to delivering excellent customer service. We have a thorough and helpful interactive voice response service that solves the majority of customer enquiries and this is free of charge. However, should you need to speak to one of our friendly customer service operators a minimal fee of 25p per minute will be charged. It is necessary to charge this fee to enable us to deliver a great level of service to all our customers when they need it. Luckily for you Mumsnetters, the customer service charges have yet to be implemented ? so you will not be charged for the duration of your testing period.

Q. Why have I been given a phone that cannot access the Internet?
A. Mobile by Sainsbury?s sells a range of handsets from the basic Nokia 100 to smartphones, we supplied a range of these to Mumsnet for testing. The Nokia 100 is one of our most popular handsets. We wanted to get feedback on the experience of all aspects of Mobile by Sainsbury?s ? the coverage, double Nectar points, customer service. In our research we have found the Nokia 100 has been particularly popular with mums buying first handsets for children (as there is no internet functionality) and therefore thought it would have appeal with mumsnetters. We are sorry if you are disappointed with this handset."

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Groovee · 20/08/2013 22:18

Sainbury's thanks for responding but you've missed one question

If it's a basic handset with no internet will you be looking to offer an alternative bundle?

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Breezy1985 · 21/08/2013 07:43

I would.also like to know about a non internet bundle, feels like I will.be paying for something I'm not using.

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Ghostsgowoooh · 21/08/2013 09:46

I am pretty impressed so far with the network, it was a godsend when I was away last week as the little phone wws the only phone that could get a good signal.

Setting up was straightforward but I haven't been able to test the internet because my phone is the nokia 100. It is value for money for me because at the moment I am with asda and their bundle is 100 minutes for ten pounds which I always use before the month is up.

To be honest I am unsure whether or not I will be continuing to use sainsburys mobile because of the lack of internet access. I would have to buy a another phone for me to do that! I'll come back and do a proper review in a couple of days

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Groovee · 22/08/2013 11:48

Would Sainsbury's consider a text reminder service of when your bundle is due to expire?

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Trigglesx · 22/08/2013 12:12

Yes, I rarely use internet at the moment, and when my DS is old enough for a mobile, I would rather get him a mobile that does NOT have internet functionality - but then I would prefer to buy a package that has more minutes available rather than the internet usage. Agree with other posters that it make me feel like I'm paying for services I'm not using and would rather put my money towards packages that are more attractive to me by offering more minutes instead.

So far, the call quality doesn't really seem any different than any other mobile service. Some dropped calls, some breaking up, some echoing. As most of these services are using each other's networks, I suppose that's to be expected. For me the different aspect is the bundles available and the customer service when there is a question or a problem. As such, the bundles need adjustment and the customer service would be better to be free IMO.

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stephgr · 23/08/2013 16:27

Just a quick update following my reviews last week. I have now been using the mobile for 10 days and am really pleased to report that I have had no problems with the service at all and I haven't needed to contact the customer service people at a cost of 25p. Plus, all the irritating text messages I kept getting from Sainsburys have now stopped.

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helcrai · 24/08/2013 11:52

Just marking my place. Received a Nokia 100 which I have brought on holiday to Wales to try out amongst the mountains where reception has been patchy in the past. I'll also post when I've tried it back at home in Cumbria where reception is terrible!

Managed to top up the phone - very easy (or so I thought!). Happily phoned my Mum (reception excellent) then read the comments that a top-up isn't the same as buying a bundle?!! Had to rope in DH to try & work out that it's a two-step process. Not something I've had to do in past when had a pay as you go tariff on another network. So not truly a "pay and go"!! Wasn't very clear in the setup pack. Spoke to a lovely lady in customer service who reset my credit back to £10 & activated the bundle. Clear and concise when dial the number to customer service- not jumping through hoops to speak to a human. So on that score customer service seems excellent although I've been on T-mobile where sure don't have to pay?

Will report back shortly when have tried out further texting/calls etc.

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Blatherskite · 26/08/2013 21:47
  • How do you find the signal coverage? Is it reliable? Have you had any issues with this?

It's been OK. It's usually a bar below my signal on my 3 phone, sometimes equal to. I've not had any major problems using the phone.

  • How has your family been using the service? i.e. is it you or your DC/DP who has the handset? How useful have you/they found the Mobile by Sainsbury's service?

I've been mainly using the handset but my DH has had a play too. He is unable to leave any gadgets in the house alone :) The service has been fine. I've never had a PAYG mobile before so the concept is all a bit more hassle than I'm used to but I can see how it would be useful.

  • Do you think that the Nectar offer of double points on all of your shopping for 30 days each time you purchase a bundle makes the service more desirable or not?

I do like the Nectar points offer. I really wish Nectar still converted points to Amazon vouchers though as I'm struggling to spend the points I already have. It has encouraged me to shop at Sainsburys more though

  • How have you found the Mobile by Sainsbury's customer care?

They were lovely and friendly and very helpful.

  • If it came up in conversation, would you recommend this network to your friends or not?

Maybe. Most of my friends (not me) have iPhones on contracts so probably wouldn't be interested though. I might suggest it to friends getting phones for their teenagers though

  • Bearing in mind that the bundle of 200 minutes/unlimited texts/250 MB data costs £10, do you think that the service is good value for money or not?

There are better deals available. I'm not sure the extra Nectar points would necessarily swing it for me.
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Flatasawitchestit · 28/08/2013 00:02

Well so far were really impressed.

Signal coverage has been fab - we love rural and have had no problems.

Phone is being used for my DD (11) he goes off fishing / cycling / etc and has the phone on him, its been really handy.

Very good value I'd say.

Good deal worth he nectar points.

I'd definitely recommend, and have done already. We'd prob just change the handset as he would like a camera for taking pics of his catches :-)

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Fillybuster · 28/08/2013 12:45

Quick update from me:

We went camping in the Chilterns at the weekend. Great coverage, even in the middle of a field, in the middle of no-where! Particularly good since dp had no access on his phone and it was patchy on my Blackberry.

Not only voice, but full internet access too. It was a little slower than in London, but actually very impressive.

Overall, I'm increasingly impressed by the package. I am consciously switching to wifi when at home or in the office, to avoid hammering my data package, but when I checked last night I haven't even used half of my allowance, so I think the 250Mb goes a surprisingly long way. Free texts would be a good thing for me in the long term, but I haven't taken advantage of those as I wasn't able easily to import all my contacts, and find the touch screen very fiddly, so have generally been using my blackberry for those.

200 minutes of calls, again, I thought wouldn't last very long, but (again) I seem to have used less than 25%....although I suspect that I would hammer than a lot more once all my contacts were in my phone.

So I am now thinking of extending my package by topping up when this one expires. It wasn't what I planned to do, but it seems pretty good value, and the network coverage is excellent.

In fact my one huuuuuge gripe is being charged to call customer service. Telling us that we're not being charged whilst on the trial does not answer the complaint. Nor does claiming that the IVR resolves most problems (it doesn't). Given that free customer service is an industry standard, that just doesn't go down well, and is currently the only 'negative' factor influencing my decision....and it would definitely be something I would warn friends and family about if they were thinking of taking the package. Which is a shame, because it is otherwise excellent. Maybe think about it again, Sainsburys?

Thank you Sainsbury's and Mumsnet again :) Thanks

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Souredstones · 29/08/2013 16:20
  • How do you find the signal coverage? Is it reliable? Have you had any issues with this? Very good, however it failed abysmally in my parents 'lead lined' house (a signal dead zone for all bar orange) haven't had any drop outs though


  • How has your family been using the service? i.e. is it you or your DC/DP who has the handset? How useful have you/they found the Mobile by Sainsbury's service? My DC have used the service and been very pleased with it
  • Do you think that the Nectar offer of double points on all of your shopping for 30 days each time you purchase a bundle makes the service more desirable or not? Not really, it's a nice perk but not enough to bring me over to the network


  • How have you found the Mobile by Sainsbury's customer care? As mentioned earlier when I called I found the person rude and unhelpful


  • If it came up in conversation, would you recommend this network to your friends or not? Not really. It's not special enough to tempt me and my friends and family away from our contract phones.


  • Bearing in mind that the bundle of 200 minutes/unlimited texts/250 MB data costs £10, do you think that the service is good value for money or not? As with others I would like the option to choose more data or minutes or doing a mix and match bundle rather than this as its quite restrictive for non data users
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SoonToBeSix · 29/08/2013 19:59
  1. the signal service has been very reliable even on holiday in Wales.
  2. my dd age 14 has enjoyed using the phone particularly the large number of free texts Smile
  3. yes the nectar offer is great I plan to combine shopping at Sainsburys with my current supermarket.
  4. I haven't needed to speak to customer care, the automated top up prompted me to buy a bundle.
  5. yes I would recommend to a friend especially as it has Internet data included.
    6)yes I think the bundle is good value , however we were unable to make use of the Internet due to the phone model. If you were to have a Internet enabled phone it is a great deal.
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WhoeverHeardOfAWormskinRug · 30/08/2013 18:15

Thank you for letting us take part, we've really enjoyed it!

We had the basic Samsung E1190, which has calls and texts and a handy torch setting! It was functional and did what it needed to - but I do feel that we couldn't explore the service fully with regard to internet/mobile web access. It is, however, perfect for DS as he has his internet needs covered by his ipod!


  • How do you find the signal coverage? Is it reliable? Have you had any issues with this?


We found the signal coverage good, as good as my vodafone signal (but they are pretty much the same aren't they?) Sadly the handset didn't have 3G at all, so when I could still use my vodafone signal using a signal booster, my DS had no signal at all on his phone for nearly a week in a rural area

  • How has your family been using the service? i.e. is it you or your DC/DP who has the handset? How useful have you/they found the Mobile by Sainsbury's service?


My DS, age 13 has been using it - he has been enjoying texting people and ringing family members.

  • Do you think that the Nectar offer of double points on all of your shopping for 30 days each time you purchase a bundle makes the service more desirable or not?


It makes it a lot more desirable, as I'm an avid nectar collector!

  • How have you found the Mobile by Sainsbury's customer care?


Very good indeed, DS managed to lock the handset - so I had to call for a PUK code. Then he managed to lock it again while I was still chatting to the customer service guy!

  • If it came up in conversation, would you recommend this network to your friends or not?


I think so, although I haven't been able to test the internet connection due to handset restrictions - and I wouldn't recommend it to any of my friends who need to use a signal booster. We're in rural Northumberland so there are quite a few who rely on this

  • Bearing in mind that the bundle of 200 minutes/unlimited texts/250 MB data costs £10, do you think that the service is good value for money or not?


It is good value, I do think that an extra bundle aimed purely at those without internet phones would be good. Or even just a bundle of texts, say 500 and 100 minutes alone for a fiver. A pocket money bundle or something.
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