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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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MillionToOneChances · 19/09/2016 17:58

Thank you so much for the update. What a wonderful ending!

CONGRATULATIONS!!

HelenaJustina · 19/09/2016 19:10

Followed this for a while back in March and then lost it... Best update ever! How satisfying especially as I've just reread all 25 pages many many congratulations to you both.

Somerville · 19/09/2016 19:12

Well hopefully just the start for us, but, yes, I get what you mean. Grin

Thanks everyone for all the good wishes and congratulations. goingtobeawesome, CiaoVerona, NieskoWhistler, jayho and everyone. Flowers

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Somerville · 19/09/2016 19:14

My first sentence was replying to Million.

And apologies for my verbosity, Helena and anyone else who read it in one go. Blush

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PotOfYoghurt · 19/09/2016 19:36

Oh god I lurked on here months ago, I'm so pleased you updated. I just burst into tears! I may be sleep-deprived.

I wish you and Lovely all the love and happiness you both so truly deserve in the years to come Flowers

Somerville · 19/09/2016 19:44

Oh no, no tears allowed! Quick, smile!

That's my only bridezilla-style decree for the wedding - please no tears! Including for myself and Lovely - actually, especially for Lovely!

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Phoenixy · 19/09/2016 20:20

Followed your thread..and have found your story so hopeful and uplifting, especially when so many of us MNers are looking for support through grotty experiences, and not quite come out the other side yet.

De-lurking to say congratulations, and a huge thank you for allowing us to experience your happiness and Lovely romance vicariously!

And yes, another one shedding a few soppy tears! Blush

MillionToOneChances · 19/09/2016 20:23

Ending to the story, beginning of the rest of your lives. You both sound so... lovely :)

LotsOfDots · 19/09/2016 20:32

Have been hoping that there would be an official update somer have been waiting to hear more since you were in Disneyland and delighted that lovely has read all our posts too, sure that the film will be in the pipe works soon!

I am so delighted that your family is all falling in love with itself, what a lovely concept.

PS (managed to name my DS without a MN committee in the end, he's 6 weeks now, and, well, lovely!)

Somerville · 19/09/2016 20:36

Oh forget boring old Lovely and stupid weddings, 6 WEEK OLD BABY! PM me what you called him in the end?

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RosieSW · 19/09/2016 23:09

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Somerville · 20/09/2016 00:11

Oh Rosie.

This thread getting a lot of attention felt overwhelming at some points and I tried to walk away from it several times. The main reason I didn't was that I met so many fellow wids through it.

The broken heart thing is interesting. Does it really sound like mine is mended? I guess from all this blabbering on about my fiancé, it does. The reality is more complicated (isn't it always...). It's like next to that broken, withered heart that will never recover, I've grown a new one. Sorry that sounds ridiculously cheesy but it's the only way I have found to describe how I feel inside. Carrying the grief and the memories and how much I miss him - God... how much. But alongside that feeling a very familiar sense of love and joy and belonging to each other with someone new. Which probably still doesn't make sense...

If I hadn't had the great fortune of happening across Lovely through work then I'd have rather stayed single than had a pale imitation of what I used to have, though. I really mean that. Some widowed people I've observed seem to want any halfway decent relationship to fill the void... Can't blame them. But that's not me. What I had the first time would have been enough romantic love for my lifetime. And my luck that it doesn't need to be is still dawning on me, I think.

Finally, I hope I don't cause offence, but, it's never too late right? Unless you want it to be, of course. Wanna come to a wedding and hang out with Lovely-friends?

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echt · 20/09/2016 04:16

A lovely thread, utterly heartwarming to read about so many good experiences. I've read now it all in one sitting as I'm jet lagged after getting to the UK from Australia to visit all the lovely friends and replies who couldn't be at my DH's funeral, etc.

Enough about me.

Many congratulations to Somerville Thanks

echt · 20/09/2016 04:17

Rellies, damn you.

Goingtobeawesome · 20/09/2016 08:56

Doesn't sound cheesy. Sounds lovely. And gives hope to all who have had their hearts broken for different reasons.

Somerville · 20/09/2016 17:18

echt I've followed your thread over the summer and I am so, so sorry for your loss. (And I know how inadequate those words are and I wish there were better ones.)

I think the last update I saw you'd just had a memorial for your DH. You commented on finding that harder than the funeral - that was totally my experience too. I was numb throughout DH's funeral, and determined to be strong for the children. But the memorial some time later (which the children very much wanted to be bright and colourful and joyful) I just fell apart.

It sounds like you and your DD have been surrounded by so much love and support, for which I'm so glad.

And hope you enjoy your trip and the jet-lag doesn't go on for too much of it. Flowers

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RosieSW · 23/09/2016 15:53

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Goingtobeawesome · 23/09/2016 17:22

RosieSW Flowers.

zoobaby · 23/09/2016 18:00

Bloody brilliant Somer (lurked from the start)!

Somerville · 23/09/2016 19:48

Thanks zoobaby. Smile

We booked our wedding venue today. For early in 2017. Smile

Rosie I broke all my own rules and cried at your words. Flowers for you and so sorry you went through all that shit with an abusive bastard at such a vulnerable time.

I did learn to love and trust in large part from DH, you're right, and I was also only able to pursue the line of work through which I met Lovely through DH's encouragement and financial support in the early days. I've had a very strong sense from the start that I wouldn't have met Lovely without my life with, and love for, my amazing DH. I still miss him so much and nothing that's happened has made that fade but I know that I know that I know that he'd be pleased at the kids and me having so much more to smile about in between all the sadness.

And fickle! Grin IKR?!
Truth be told I don't know if a child together is part of our future. But I've learned this year that being open to opportunities can change my life so much for the better, so who knows.

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cashmerecardigans · 23/09/2016 20:29

When I said your heart is mended, I meant it is no longer broken but repaired. It will always bear the beautiful scar that is your love for wonderful DH. And because it is repaired, it is able to love again. A different love, for a different man who will never want you to forget how you were taught to love and trust by the first love-of-your-life
Rosie this is utterly beautiful. Congratulations, Somer, I followed this from the start and am delighted for you, Lovely and your children. Wishing you all the best

Somerville · 24/09/2016 12:49

Thank you cashmere. Smile

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RosieSW · 24/09/2016 15:41

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Goingtobeawesome · 24/09/2016 17:52

I'm thinking on the day we should all dress up and drink loads if we're not invited...a live MN wedding!!!👰🏼

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