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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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Goingtobeawesome · 03/04/2016 08:32

You are not allowed to ever feel bad for missing your DH. Of course you are going to miss him forever. The important bit is how Lovely copes with your feelings.

Memom · 03/04/2016 08:37

I think it would be odd if you didn't have special memories of DH, you have his children as daily reminders and you can't control what sparks a memory, you just have to hope most are good.

My DH lost his wife to cancer and now just at random times he will get emotional, a while ago it was the smell of a certain cake in a cafe! I can't claim to understand his feelings as I've not walked those miles but a hug and to talk about it helps him.

You're doing just fine! Enjoy xx

Somerville · 03/04/2016 10:46

Memom - You're another good'un who says his wife rather than late wife or first wife.

Funnily enough this was sparked by cake as well. I read the dessert menu, saw two things I really like, and mentioned this. Lovely asked if I wanted to call the waiter over and ask about them to help make my mind up.

And I burst into tears.

Because DH and I had a thing where I could never decide on dessert and he would tell me that the chivalrous thing for a man to do was always to not have an opinion about his own dessert. So I would order two, try them both, then DH would eat my reject.

So when Lovely didn't do that I just had this flash of missing my gorgeous DH and wishing, just for a split second, that I was with him rather than Lovely.

And then I had a crash of feeling terribly guilty. Lovely will never be DH and I wouldn't want him to be.

I explained the tears as 'getting a sudden memory that made me miss DH' and Lovely got me tissues and gave me a hug and looked concerned about me but not jealous or upset. So yes, Goingtobeawesome, he dealt with my feelings well, poor man.

I will probably discuss it with him in a bit more depth sometime soon but we were in a hurry to meet our friends so didn't then. Actually, the friend was DH's friend first, even though I ended up knowing her better through working with her, and I think that had been preying on my mind too. It's really weird that she knew DH well and knows Lovely well (her DP is recent and had only met DH in passing) and I was nervous about being couple-y with Lovely in front of her. Which when it came to it was not a problem at all and we had a great time.

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NataliaOsipova · 03/04/2016 12:11

Lovely sounds....well, lovely! You shouldn't feel guilty - you must be dealing with a rollercoaster of emotions at the moment and he sounds like a mature, caring person who will understand that. Glad you enjoyed the rest of the evening.

BigHairySpider · 03/04/2016 13:02

Your dh sounds like he was a lovely man. A lot of people never get to have such a good man in their life Flowers

I am so glad you had a good time on your date. There will always be memories but Mr Lovely seems very understanding and just so nice.

Wishfulmakeupping · 03/04/2016 13:43

Wow op this does all sound like such an emotional roller coaster- been binge reading this thread today.
Just want to wish you, your family and lovely all the best for the future.
I can 'feel' the butterflies in your tummy reading your posts :)

Somerville · 03/04/2016 14:15

Wishful and Natalia Yes, definitely an emotional roller coaster. Struggling with the lows are what makes me sometimes feel that I'm not ready for this, but having come to realise that these bewildering emotions would all occur at some point, now is no worse a time than in a year or two. Anyway, Lovely is a human being with feelings of his own and I couldn't just put him on hold. It wouldn't be fair. And he might meet someone else in the meantime and I really don't like that idea at all

BHS No one is perfect but but DH was a thoughtful and kind man. Not as in touch with his own, or other people's, emotions as Lovely, but very good at meeting other people's practical needs. Especially mine, since we got together young enough for me to be able to train him well Grin He so thought that the dessert thing was the Right Thing To DO that he used to offer to do it at work nights out with female colleagues Grin

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SueTrinder · 03/04/2016 16:32

Can't believe I've missed this thread up to now, I've just read it in one sitting. DH does the dessert thing as well and has been known to do the same with mains. It would be weird for you not to have memories about your DH, and what really matters is how Lovely reacts. It's a pretty good test of his character really isn't it?

Agree with others that this will be a complicated journey for you whenever you go through it, Lovely will sometimes be different from your DH and sometimes will do things that remind you of DH and both of those situation may cause tears but the memories are important for you (and the DC, if you get to the stage of introducing Lovely to them).

Somerville · 03/04/2016 16:46

Glad it's not just me with the dessert thing Sue. Grin

I had never thought through how spoilt it could seem until I couldn't find the words to explain it to Lovely.

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Goingtobeawesome · 03/04/2016 16:49

I'm sure you know it anyway but Lovely didn't do anything wrong by not saying the same about the dessert dilemma as your DH would have done. It may have unnerved you if he had. It sounds like he looked after you well.

Whendoigetadayoff · 03/04/2016 19:36

I've seen this thread a couple times but just read whole thing in a one as I've had absolutely bloody awful day. It's cheered me up hugely. I think it's first MN post where no one is being mean or horrid but totally suportive and genuinely happy for Somer who deserves happiness.
However I have to tell you that I now want all the regular posters - Cab Emma various others along with Somer and Lovely - to move to my street so they can be RL friends. You all sound the loveliest kindest fun awesome people.
Cab and Somer (and your children - you sound like awesome mum) I wish you so much love and happiness in future no matter where future paths take you.
This has been such an uplifting read and so good to see genuine supporting messages from the MN community.

Somerville · 03/04/2016 19:38

Yes I knew he hadn't done anything wrong. My horror was more at my own reaction; it seems supremely unfair on both of them to expect, even only in the moment, Lovely to do something that was one of my things with DH. Confused

On a happier subject, I've told my DC that I should probably take pity on the work colleague I've been dating and let him be my boyfriend. Grin

They thought that sounded okay, thankfully.

But renewed their pleas to meet him. Which I think I'm going to plan to happen soon, if Lovely is up for that.

If they don't like him, or the reality of gobby children puts him off, I'd rather know sooner rather than later.

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Somerville · 03/04/2016 19:59

Hi Whendoigetadayoff
I agree that lots of people have been very kind with their time and advice and have chosen careful and kind word with which to express them.

It's sucking me back into MN in a big way well as much as fits around work, kids, dog and Lovely

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Goingtobeawesome · 03/04/2016 20:02

You can't have thought you would meet someone like Lovely so probably didn't think what if what if what if so of course it felt strange. I'm kind of living that myself atm. Not sure what to feel, why I'm feeling what I do and what I will fell tomorrow as I never expected to be in the position I am. Life throws you unexpected stuff all the time. But we all get through the best we can.

Hurray for your kids and yes, sensible for all to meet before things progress. I'm sure it will be fine.

NataliaOsipova · 04/04/2016 09:50

Sounds like a great response from your kids (they sound terrific, by the way!). If they are keen to meet him, it's probably a good idea to do it sooner rather than later - it probably makes it less of a "big thing" in that sense. I bet Lovely will be the most nervous one, though - but given the aplomb with which he's handled everything else, I bet you don't have too much to worry about!

Somerville · 04/04/2016 22:47

I won't be updating this any more, because of stuff that would be a TaaT.

But it's not going poof, and the advice on it is great, and hopefully might help other people in similar situations to mine in the future. All of your advice and humour and support on this thread epitomises what I love about MN.

You'll see me around, I don't plan to give anyone the satisfaction of a name change.

Final Lovely update: telling him about my shitty evening (in very vague terms about a horrible thing said on an internet forum) resulted in an offer to FaceTime all night so he can cheer me up. And that's an offer too good to refuse. Smile

Thanks again everyone. Flowers Flowers Flowers

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hilbil21 · 04/04/2016 22:49

Somer please please don't take that other thread to heart! You know yourself there are so many people on this thread who are rooting for you and love the blossoming romance. Don't let people who obviously see the negative in everything bother you xx

AnotherEmma · 04/04/2016 22:52

Somer
Please don't stop posting! Don't let the idiot troll hunters spoil it for the rest of us lovely people!
Anyway I hope you had/have a good time talking to Mr Lovely on FaceTime.

Scarftown · 04/04/2016 23:16

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StopBoasting · 04/04/2016 23:35

Before you go can you please tell me where you got the skirt from. I reversed image searched it but it didn't come up Sad

Snazarooney · 05/04/2016 00:35

I hope everything works out for you.

Goingtobeawesome · 05/04/2016 07:14

Somer - never give in to bullies and pathetic people.

NotGonnaAnswerThePhone · 05/04/2016 12:30

Why is this stopping? What other thread? Will miss the updates. Hope everything goes well for you xx

Thethingswedoforlove · 05/04/2016 12:34

Somer thanks for telling us you are stopping posting on this thread. You have been so good at providing updates. There have been other early romance threads where the poster just disappeared and it was horrible. We all so so wish you the best whatever that might look like for you and your family. Take care.

Memom · 05/04/2016 12:56

Don't know what happened on the other thread but sorry you have been upset.
Hope the future is kind to you and that Lovely remains lovely. Take care xx
(Hope you do update)

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