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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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GColdtimer · 17/03/2016 21:05

Ah, hope you had a good not-a-date. Live your Dsis and your DD. Smile

Somerville · 17/03/2016 22:51

AnotherEmma - Yes, definitely dates, now that I have DD1's blessing. I couldn't tell anyone else (not even MN) before telling Lovely. But you'd figured it out already Grin

notonyur - I was good! Anticipation is a wonderful thing...

twofalls - Thanks, I did. Smile It started off a not-a-date and ended as officially a date. Smile Though I'm still not sure what the difference is...

We were marvelling tonight that 2 weeks ago we hadn't quite met each other. Shock I was looking forward to meeting him, but purely as someone I'd seek out to work with more, and become good friends with. Having heard his side of things, he thought there might be a bit more to it than that... or so he's now claiming... he says he wore his favourite suit to our project launch, specially Grin. But then he was cautious when he saw that I still wear my wedding & engagement rings on my left hand. (I need to think about that. Not in a rush, but it might be time to move them. I don't want it to look or feel like I'm having an affair.)
Thanks for encouraging me to email him, everyone, because that has apparently gained me major kudos from Lovely's sisters and mother, who are approving of me as 'no-nonsense' (mother) and ballsy (sisters) Hmm Grin

Oh, and he was very nice about my house, and really made it look like a much less lonely place than it has for a long time.

But he was confused why my dog smelt of coconut Grin Grin Grin

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AnotherEmma · 17/03/2016 22:56

Your updates get better and better and you've completely won me over by replying personally Grin

He's a real keeper, this one Grin

PS In my book the difference between not-a-date and date is snogging... so they've pretty much been dates all along Wink

Somerville · 17/03/2016 23:05

Ha! Maybe Lovely agrees. I'll ask when I phone him shortly for our hands free chat while he drives home I know I'm stealth boasting but I'm not saying sorry Grin

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Somerville · 17/03/2016 23:07

He's a real keeper, this one

I am thinking that I agree with you. But it's early days. I might discover a fatal flaw. Or he might...

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BigHairySpider · 17/03/2016 23:14

What a great thread.
Hope you continue to be happy with Lovely

TheFormidableMrsC · 17/03/2016 23:17

Oh goodness me, I remain in a swoonsome state, vacariously enjoying romance through you Somer....so delighted that DD appears to be open to meeting Lovely...she is truly amazing, bless her.

However, don't think that they don't "date" at 14, been there, done that, wiped up the tears

Speaks mother of now 18 year old DD who would love me to meet a "Lovely" Smile

Somerville · 18/03/2016 00:45

Thanks BHS (I'm not typing that last word!)

TheFormidableMrsC
I hope you meet someone new soon Smile
She doesn't meet any boys which is probably why she's so obsessed

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LeaLeander · 18/03/2016 01:41

Fun thread; thanks for the updates!

Jenijena · 18/03/2016 04:29

:)

Goingtobeawesome · 18/03/2016 06:55

This thread is making me so happy -after a crap week where my DC was assaulted at school and they don't care about him.

GColdtimer · 18/03/2016 08:18

So he has told his mother and sister all about you. That is big news!

Glad it's going well.

Somerville · 18/03/2016 10:15

Going - That's awful, I'm so sorry. How's your DC doing now? Hope you can have a peaceful weekend with him/her and the school gets their act together. Having had to resort to this once (When DS was being bullied for his dad dying - WTF?); going over staff heads straight to the governors can sometimes work well?

twofalls - He told his woo younger sister early on. She told their mother and older sister before he had a chance to; he told me, laughing, about their phone calls scolding him for not telling him themselves, and also his mother asking for every possible detail about my DC; this is all good, I think?

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wordassociationfootball · 18/03/2016 10:36

It's excellent. They're obviously a really close, loving family.

Cabrinha · 18/03/2016 10:43

Lovely "lovely" updates!

Somerville, my fiancé moved his rings to his other hand after a while, and then some time later decided to take them off - I think when he started dating, but may have been a little earlier.

We were chatting about it and I asked if he felt he ought to remove them for dating - because if he wanted to wear them again, that was fine by me. (he didn't)

So... you know... take it at your own pace - you don't 'have' to do anything.

I asked him if he'd like his first wedding date engraved inside our band, so it marked both of his weddings - but he doesn't mind not wearing them now so he said no.

Somerville · 18/03/2016 12:58

wordassoc - Yes, it sounds like they are, and I like that. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a supportive family but coming from one myself I know how much stability it gives. Though it does make me feel guilty for not telling my parents yet. But I'm going away with them over Easter and I'm planning on talking to my younger DC, and parents, about all this then.

I asked him if he'd like his first wedding date engraved inside our band, so it marked both of his weddings - Cabrinha, I wish everyone who has lost a spouse could meet someone as thoughtful as you.

I'm not sure that I'll ever want to take off the rings DH gave me. But moving them to my right hand, so I don't look married, feels like something I might want to do soon. If things don't work out with this... relationship (?) then I don't want future nice men/my friends thinking I'm not open to anything. And if things do work out... I'm not going there. Not even in my head. Not yet.

Apparently the difference between a not-a-date and a date = Flowers
I got beautiful bright ones delivered this morning. Smile

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diggerdigsdogs · 18/03/2016 13:58
Envy

That's a very good morning after the first date.

AnotherEmma · 18/03/2016 14:10

Awwww. He is almost too good to be true! Smile

torthecatlady · 18/03/2016 14:22

Personally I think 16months after your loss (so sorry Sad) is acceptable. It's not like you're planning a wedding and children etc. It's just seeing what's there and getting back into the dating world.
My dad had been with my mum since they were 16 and had been marries 39 years, like you forever and when she died from cancer he was already dating within 6 weeks after her death.
I was livid to say the least. But now it's been 18 months and I get that he needs to live his life and find happiness.
Good luck! Thanks

AnotherEmma · 18/03/2016 14:26

6 weeks!!! Shock Confused
I would have been livid too.
Glad you are able to feel differently about it now.
Flowers

TheFormidableMrsC · 18/03/2016 14:33

Bloody hell torthecatlady, I have been in your shoes and would also have been livid. That makes even my ex-h's OW seem "respectful" of her husband's memory Hmm. You're right that everybody deserves a life and indeed happiness, but I would have thought you were storing yourself up for all sorts of future problems if you don't give yourself time to grieve and adjust or indeed give your children time to do the same...

The way Somer has handled this, her feelings and those of her children has been very moving Smile

Somerville · 18/03/2016 14:38

Shock Sorry to hear that torthecatlady. Must have given you all a lot to process along with losing your mum.
You're right, the few people I've told in RL haven't thought it is too soon.

Emma, I hope not, he seems sincere, but time will tell I guess.

Anyway, won't see him much over next few weeks Sad as we both have holidays planned. I actually feel lonelier when I'm on my own than I did before I knew he existed, which doesn't make much sense. Confused

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Goingtobeawesome · 18/03/2016 17:23

Somerville - I've sent you a PM.

Goingtobeawesome · 18/03/2016 17:25

And it makes total sense. You know now what is potentially available for you and you'd like some. Send some texts Smile.

LotsofDots · 18/03/2016 19:37

Flowers. Wonderful. Flowers Grin