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To kick these people out?

999 replies

CompletePushover · 10/01/2014 18:24

7 yrs and this is my first AIBU, and I'm so cowardly I've name changed Grin

So... After years of renting crappy places dh, the 4dcs and I have finally bought a lovely house.

It's great. Needs loads of work doing on it. Lots of potential, completely neglected and now ours. The people who had it before us had some problems and had criminally neglected their animals. The house comes with a field.

Now begins the lovely story. A few years ago Some people passing by saw how neglected the horse in the field was and took it upon themselves to look after it. They did amazing things, built him a shelter, bought him food, trimmed his hooves, all of it.

The horse is a stallion and unbroken but of nice temperament. But it means he can be flighty.

Move on a year and one of the group has taken on most of the care and bought their own horse who now lives rent free in the field.

Two weeks before completion the owner tells us we will be inheriting a cat and that the horses are staying (he's gifted the stallion to the other horse owner)

So... We panicked until lovely horse person came to our door and seemed very nice, and we said they could stay until Easter and then we'd see (rent free).

This all seemed ok, but there have been annoyances: There's no where else to park but in our drive, when we want to wander around the field with the dcs we have to struggle through two horses and it's a nightmare, and now finally we have bought out longed for dog and I can't walk him on my field without someone with me because I can't carry a baby and a puppy and fend off the horses on my own, in December we were told they use one of our sheds for feed, And there are other people who are part of the group who have not introduced themselves to me, but who go on to my field regularly.

So this evening we've let the horse owner know that beyond the end of march we want our field back. At the moment I've used it twice since we moved in and I want to use it daily.

They're not happy. I tell a lie, one is not happy, the other is completely understanding.

I know they did a good thing, I know they put work into the field (shelter and fencing) but I also know they've had free pasture for 18 months in return, and I think it's become a picnic spot for them all.

AIBU? And should I be growing a backbone, because I'm already trying to think of a way to section off some of it, which I know would only end up delaying the inevitable? I'm also worried because I'm in no way insured to have this all going on on my property.

I want nice things for the people who have done good, but at the same time I want to enjoy my home. I also have PND and desperately want to be outside but can't cope with being around people. Just to throw that in there.

OP posts:
nickymanchester · 20/01/2014 16:37

you are entirely legally able to clamp their vehicle

PLEASE, do not do this.

It has been illegal to do this for more than a year now. If you try and do this then the police will be coming after you instead.

nickymanchester · 20/01/2014 16:41

The OP does not want him on her land, and is entitled to place an abandonment notice on her gate stating that the animals would become hers if not removed within a certain time frame(think its 28 days)

It's actually only 14 days. Here's an example of what the notice should say:-

www.nationalequinewelfarecouncil.co.uk/www/newc/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Abandonment-Notice.pdf

SuffolkNWhat · 20/01/2014 16:45

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

AngelaDaviesHair · 20/01/2014 16:47

-Delurks-

Buy a Taser. Use it on her. (Helpful)

-Relurks-

SaggyOldClothCatPuss · 20/01/2014 16:49

Ooh! Good find! That sounds ideal!

BerylStreep · 20/01/2014 16:49

I would make sure you take a photograph of the car on your driveway if it happens again.

SlightlyDampWellies · 20/01/2014 16:51

The use of tasers by private persons is illegal Angela (tuts).

Don't ask me how I know....

Grin
mistlethrush · 20/01/2014 16:53

Dampwellies - love the name and very appropriate for this thread!

SlightlyDampWellies · 20/01/2014 16:55

[twirls] :)

I am also a horsy person and I am utterly shocked by the behaviour of these people. I want to stamp over with my fist shaking at them.

midgeymum2 · 20/01/2014 16:56

OK. I wouldn't suggest that you "evict" them - if they have no legal right of occupancy (as seems to be the case) do not introduce legal terms that they might deliberately misinterpret. They are occupying your property illegally. I would go for simply stating that,as discussed, you require them to completely vacate your property removing all their belongings and the horses by x date. If they do not remove of the contents of the shed, then you will assume that they no longer want them and dispose of them yourself. If they do not remove the horses you will report them as abandoned. If you see anyone on your property after x date who does not have your express permission to be there then you will call the police. Tell them to refer any further questions they may have to your solicitor. Then disengage. You must be firm, do not attempt to reason or negotiate. This is your property. You paid for the right to enjoy it, which you are not getting! Agree that there is no mad person like a mad horsey person please don't enter any discussions without getting legal advice first.

tiredoutgran · 20/01/2014 16:56

I would put up an abandonment notice NOW, just to show them you mean business, there is a company used by the local authorities that actually remove the horses and then place signs for the legal owner to contact and pay through the nose to get them back. Personally I would have the horse PTS because I am a (crazy?)
horse person and would prefer to know the horse is safe, as in it won't be harmed in the future, it is an old horse and, if it has been there a long time then a move would be stressful for it. Empty the shed of their belongings and lock the door to prevent them putting things back in. I am bloody furious on your behalf

AngelaDaviesHair · 20/01/2014 17:04

Psst!Here

ICanSeeTheSeaFromHere · 20/01/2014 17:15

Well if everyone else is coming out I must too!

You are doing so well, keep strong!

PrimalLass · 20/01/2014 17:35

I've followed this thread so obsessively that I can't remember if I am a lurker or not.

growingolddicustingly · 20/01/2014 17:40

Delurks to offer Thanks and Cake to OP

Waves "feck orf you knobs" pompoms and gives a huge very unmumnet's hug.

limitedperiodonly · 20/01/2014 17:40

I'm a lurker. I had to think about it though because I'm also following a thread about some cheeky bastard charging his tenants to park on a MNetter's land and the tenant getting shirty with the MNetter, not her landlord.

I posted on that one.

BerylStreep · 20/01/2014 17:55

Crikey - have just read today's update.

In a way, it makes it simpler that they are denying ownership of the stallion.

I wouldn't tell them if you plan to PTS - they don't need to know. Simply state you have made arrangements for the stallion.

If you are getting the vet to PTS, I would ask them to keep it completely confidential.

I definitely would be bringing the eviction date forward. This sounds like a really unpleasant person, and her continued presence couldn't be good for you. I think it is fair enough to state that you had hoped to deal with this matter in an amicable manner, however you will not tolerate abusive behaviour, and as a result you would like her animal and her belongings removed from your property by XXX (suggest 2 weeks).

Can you park your car at the entrance of your drive so that she can't get in? Move the car 30 minutes before DH gets home.

Fannydabbydozey · 20/01/2014 18:19

Another delurker Blush

I really feel for you Chris. I had PND after my second and it took all I had to leave the house. I would have been crushed if I had to defend my land against mad horsey people (I have no land. But if I did...)

I can't believe the nerve of some people and how dammed careless she is about the horse she purported to love and care for. It's like me handing back my rescue dog saying "as it's winter now and a bit chilly for a walk."

I'm always gobsmacked at entitled people like this. I'd love to know the psychological assessment of them - like your mad horsey lot and the landlord that has been charging his tenants to park on someone else's land. I wouldn't have the front to do anything like this.

Just keep thinking of your meadow - it sounds idyllic and exactly what you need. X

nickymanchester · 20/01/2014 18:30

limitedperiodonly

I'm also following a thread about some cheeky bastard charging his tenants to park on a MNetter's land and the tenant getting shirty with the MNetter, not her landlord

Grin me too

mistlethrush · 20/01/2014 18:39

I've posted on that one too.

limitedperiodonly · 20/01/2014 19:05

nickymanchester does that make us bad people? Wink

Meerka · 20/01/2014 19:15

Oh dear, sorry about the wrong info on clamping!

sounds a very bad idea now!

Bonzodoodah · 20/01/2014 19:26

So Sorry ThatHorse that you have bed things going on with the DC. It must all be a strain. Is there any chance you can convince yourself that these cheeky feckers are a challenge to deal with and make it lighthearted for yourself to take the stress off the other stuff PND mustn't help at all. Be strong and if you need a mob with pitchforks to defend your field I'll be over when you name the time after I've bought a pitchfork

Pixel · 20/01/2014 19:31

The next time she parks there, call the police and have her towed for parking on private land.

Haven't read the rest yet so apologies if someone has said this, but the police won't care. Private land is not their problem.
We used to have someone leaving their car round the side of our pub, by the cellar hatch so the delivery lorries couldn't get in, despite polite requests to leave the area clear. The police didn't want to know and in the end we had to put up notices threatening to fine and let it be known that we had bought a clamp!
(we did consider pushing the car round the corner and leaving it on double yellow lines. Bet the police would have sorted it then!).

Pixel · 20/01/2014 19:51

Ah, just seen the updated rules on clamping so that's out. Shame as just the threat worked for us, we never actually made any money out of fines sadly!