To kick these people out?

[CompletePushover]

7 yrs and this is my first AIBU, and I'm so cowardly I've name changed

So... After years of renting crappy places dh, the 4dcs and I have finally bought a lovely house.

It's great. Needs loads of work doing on it. Lots of potential, completely neglected and now ours. The people who had it before us had some problems and had criminally neglected their animals. The house comes with a field.

Now begins the lovely story. A few years ago Some people passing by saw how neglected the horse in the field was and took it upon themselves to look after it. They did amazing things, built him a shelter, bought him food, trimmed his hooves, all of it.

The horse is a stallion and unbroken but of nice temperament. But it means he can be flighty.

Move on a year and one of the group has taken on most of the care and bought their own horse who now lives rent free in the field.

Two weeks before completion the owner tells us we will be inheriting a cat and that the horses are staying (he's gifted the stallion to the other horse owner)

So... We panicked until lovely horse person came to our door and seemed very nice, and we said they could stay until Easter and then we'd see (rent free).

This all seemed ok, but there have been annoyances: There's no where else to park but in our drive, when we want to wander around the field with the dcs we have to struggle through two horses and it's a nightmare, and now finally we have bought out longed for dog and I can't walk him on my field without someone with me because I can't carry a baby and a puppy and fend off the horses on my own, in December we were told they use one of our sheds for feed, And there are other people who are part of the group who have not introduced themselves to me, but who go on to my field regularly.

So this evening we've let the horse owner know that beyond the end of march we want our field back. At the moment I've used it twice since we moved in and I want to use it daily.

They're not happy. I tell a lie, one is not happy, the other is completely understanding.

I know they did a good thing, I know they put work into the field (shelter and fencing) but I also know they've had free pasture for 18 months in return, and I think it's become a picnic spot for them all.

AIBU? And should I be growing a backbone, because I'm already trying to think of a way to section off some of it, which I know would only end up delaying the inevitable? I'm also worried because I'm in no way insured to have this all going on on my property.

I want nice things for the people who have done good, but at the same time I want to enjoy my home. I also have PND and desperately want to be outside but can't cope with being around people. Just to throw that in there.

WTF, now they are saying the stallion isn't theirs? FFS. Can you put a sign up on your drive saying "Fuck off, freeloaders"? They are unbelievable.

I know you like a de-lurker, so here I am awaits fanfare!! I feel so sorry for you, I don't have PND, had a touch of it with DD2, but just wanted to say I feel you are digging yourself in deeper - by this I mean that you are composing e-mails etc., which they can interpret how they wish, obviously they're taking the piss but I still think you need to do this more formally. Is there any reason why you haven't put this straight to solicitor to deal with? Is it the cost or something else?

sorry that wasn't entirely coherent, I meant to say I don't have PND but I completely understand how you feel, but still wanted to say ….etc

I love a delurker

As for the solicitor etc. I will get round to it. There's a quite major issue going on in my life around my dcs' welfare and XH.

Maybe this horse thing will turn out to be a welcome distraction from the truly serious stuff.

As soon as all that is sorted i will focus on getting rid. At the moment I'm building my knowledge base so I know what I can and can't do if the worst comes to the worst and they don't go, but energy-wise and money-wise my focus has to be elsewhere. Sorry if that sounds enigmatic.

I'm hoping I'll be in a much better place to deal with it all by march.

It's even more complicated by the fact they're saying it's my mine, we as a group took on his welfare

It's very "poor me! Don't say I'm not caring! I'm good! I do good!" As though they are actually doing us a favour.

It's not mine, not it's my mine

I do feel for you, there is nothing more entitled than a mad horsey person. I think gelding the stallion (if he is yours) is unrealistic; it will cost thousands, as he will have to go to an equine hospital and have a GA, in itself very dangerous for old horses.

Getting a passport for a horse isn't difficult, speak to the local vet about it, but firstly speak to a solicitor to ascertain exactly who owns what etc, and get them to write to the mad, entitled horsey creature. If your (or the vendor's)solicitor has made a bit of a faux pas in the conveyancing you may find that they will handle all this for you. Good Luck.

Another DeLurker here wishing you luck in your crap situation! My blood is boiling for you. I think Saggy's letter above sounds perfect.

Chris, if the horse was yours, you would've arranged for his removal when you took possession of the house. In the event he was yours and you'd wanted him, you'd be the one caring for him, not some random strangers who don't communicate with you.

What they're trying to say makes no sense.

Can you write to them and ask them to clarify that this horse is nothing to do with them at all and if the answer is no you will 'make arrangements' plus, that you have to bring the deadline forward for their vacating the shed and paddock.

Enrique, exactly, it would either be mine to care for, or mine to rehome or PTS, or whatever. I would never own an animal and expect someone else to care for it, that's not how I do things.

And yes (sorry got distracted) saggy's letter is very good.

Dh has sent a brief response to the immediate daftnesses, saying he will respond to the rest later.

He has stated that they have until the end of Saturday to vacate the shed, it is not for him to suggest alternative storage, and my favourite line in response to "I suppose I'll have to park dangerously on the road and cause an accident then [paraphrase]" was a calm "I suggest you use the layby at the corner of the field to park").

We're not going to get drawn into a daft back and forth. But we do need some things clarifying. So tonight we shall respond to her points, we now have her address, and will post (recorded delivery) the eviction letter with conditions that will shorten the eviction period if not kept to.

Oh and she was also outraged that we want permission to be sought if anyone other than her intends to go on to our land! She's insane.

Actually, Chris, I think it is more malicious than before, if they are coming knowing your DH is away. I realise they are probably unaware of your PND, but it is more calculated, if they are avoiding him who has challenged them more.

Oh, was referring to their advent this morning.

TwoandTwo, it just keeps getting better worse!

But horses, you could move next door to me, and then your life would be great!

Delurking to give Chris for being so amazing under such trying circumstances. As everyone else has wisely said, these people are total loons and cynically taking advantage of you, and trying to manipulate your feelings. Wish I was closer to give you a hand clearing out the shed…

Bolshie, thank you :) you sound like just what I need

They are fucking taking the piss. There's no madness like entitled horsey madness. I like Saggy's letter.

Sorry all this is happening while you have other stuff going on, OP. Hope you get well soon.

FairPhyllis, it'll be ok. At some point.

I can see you all lurking

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I delurked previously, then relurked again. Does this post make me a rederelurker?

I would now forget the deadline, they will be able to find livery for one far faster and it doesn't involve a stallion! Do you have it in writing that the stallion is not their's? I would say that you only allowed that time because of the stallion, you want the other off because the stallion will be pts next week and it is wrong to keep a horse alone.

They are disgusting, talk about throwing your kindness back in your face!

Yet another de-lurker! Hello! There are no crazy people like crazy horse people. I know lots of them, but none as crazy as you have. I have read the full thread, but its long so I might be repeating somebody. Look up your local BHS welfare officer and tell them you have an abandonded animal that you are unable to care for. The BHS tend to work faster than other agencies, and may even be able to help with legal advice.

Its not abandoned. It is being looked after.
Poor these are not just any crazy horse people. These are crazy horse RESCUE people! There is no one more entitled in the world!

chris, I'm near to certain that -as long as you have a formal notice up visible- you are entirely legally able to clamp their vehicle. Hopefully the threat will be enough. But if not - you can do it. And if you do it when they are feeding the horse, you won't even have to see them. Just make sure you go out for a while! Then ring your husband and warn him that the driveway is blocked.

You can legally ask for a 60quid clamp removal fee too, I believe. Not sure if you can get it towed away.

Yup crazy horse rescue people are the worst. As I understand it, the horse does not belong to anyone? I think legally that if nobody assumes ownership its abandoned. It would be different if there was any kind of paperwork(passport/breed registration/vet card or bill of sale) to prove who last owned him.The OP does not want him on her land, and is entitled to place an abandonment notice on her gate stating that the animals would become hers if not removed within a certain time frame(think its 28 days).

The law on private clamping changed in 2012, it's now illegal. If there's a gate to the driveway there's nothing to stop it being locked with the car on the driveway.