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Help!! Carpet fitter has just stormed out. AIBU?

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whenskiesaregrey · 17/04/2012 11:51

Sorry for rambling state of this post, I am a bit upset about the way I have just been spoken to. Also, sorry for the length of the post, I just want to include all the detail.

I ordered some carpet last week to be fitted today. It is a local small carpet shop, not part of a chain. They offer a 'free fitting service', but you pay 75% of the price in the shop, and the remainder once fitted. I presume this is because they sub-contract out the fitting. In my case this was £150 in the shop, and £50 once fitted. I have bought carpet and fitting from this shop before, and the fitting service wasn't great, but they said they were using a different company that day, so I gave them the benefit of the doubt and ordered from them again. In the shop, I mentioned the problems I had had last time (punctuality, not taking old carpet away) and asked for reassurance that the service would be better this time. I was assured it would be.

Carpet was due to be delivered at 9am. At half past 9, no-one had turned up, so I rang the shop asking where they were. I was told they had has a couple of problems this morning and only had one fitter on instead of two, and they might be able to fit me in a 2pm today. I can't do that time as DS has a party 2-4pm, and I work Wed-Fri, so this morning really was the only time this week that was suitable. I explained to the man on the phone that I has problems last time, and was told it would be better this time. So he said he would move some things around, and fit me in about 10am this morning.

At 10, two men arrived to fit the carpet. In the bedroom, the furniture we had left in there was a double bed, a wardrobe, and chester of drawers and two little side units. We had been told in the shop not to worry about moving any furniture out of the room, that they would move it around the room to fit it. DH had taken the mirrored doors off the wardrobe to make it lighter to move, and we had moved all of the other usual bedroom stuff out of the room. The chest of drawers were half empty, just had underwear in them. The bed still had the bedding on it because I didn't think it would make any difference. The little side units did have things in them, but they really are very small, so I thought they be okay. I am 27+ weeks pregnant with PGP, so it is a bit difficult to move things around.

He went to the bedroom and looked around and sighed. The said, you're going to need to get those clothes out of that wardrobe. There wasn't very much in there because we are getting new wardrobes, so it was just a few things to keep us going until the new stuff arrived. I said I would move it, but it shouldn't make much different to the weight. He said if he tried to move the wardrobe, it would collapse, which I said wasn't true as we have just decorated, and have been moving the wardrobe around so we could get to the walls. But I still carried on moving the clothes. He then started opening the drawers in the chest of drawers, which have my underwear etc in. I said the drawers are almost empty, so the underwear shoudn't make any difference to the weight. He then picked up the small unit and dragged it around the room in a way that the drawers all fell forward and the unit nearly tipped up. I said to him that I would move it if he was going to move it like that, and moved the other unit out of the room. He then said 'look love, I'm doing you a favour here, I could leave you to move it by yourself if you want'. By the point, the other lad had turned the double bed up on to its side and was leaning against the window. I said to the first lad that I understood that he has obviously had a busy morning and he didn't have much patience, but I had been waiting for the delivery too. He said 'no patience?! I shouldn't even be here. I'm not staying here and taking this. Do you want me to go'. I said to him if he wanted to go, he should go, but it's his job to fit the carpet. He shouted to the other lad, 'right, we're off', stormed down the stairs and got in the van. The other lad looked a bit sheepish, and I said 'so is he just going to go, leaving the bed on its side and all the furniture like that'. I am quite obviously pregnant, and DS was playing downstairs and shouting to me, so it was obvious that I would not be able to move the furniture back. He said he would have a word with him, but once he had got in the van, they drove off. So the bedroom is left with the very heavy oak double bed on its side, a unit in the middle of the floor, and they left the door open as they stormed out.

I rang the shop and explained that I thought the fitter was very rude, and what was going to happen now. He said that they had done me a favour by moving the other appointments round to fit me in at 10am, and they were wasting time on the phone at the moment, and other appointments needed to be done. He then said it is in my best interest to be flexible with the delivery time, because I wont get my £150 deposit back, because they have ordered the carpet. I then tried to reiterate how rude the fitter had been to me. Apparently the fitter had told the lad in the shop that I refused to move anything out of the room, and that is why he left. Now, if the shop had explained to us to make sure wardrobes were empty, drawers were empty etc, then we would have done it. We told them when we ordered it it was for a bedroom, so you would know the type of furniture would be in there. But we were told that we did not need to get any furniture out of the room, the fitters would work around it.

Was I being unreasonable to the fitter? Is it true I can't get my money back on the carpet? I don't want that fitter back in the house, he really was so horrible to me. I understand he has obviously had a busy day, and I said that to him, but at the end of the day, that isn't my fault and he shouldn't take it out on me. I also don't like the suggestion from the shop that they are doing me a favour by re-arranging the delivery for me, when I have paid for a carpet and fitting, and that is what I expected.

I am pretty upset at the moment, which is probably all pregnancy hormones. I got a bit upset on the phone to the shop, so he said he would ring me back 'when I had calmed down'. So I am waiting for them to call back now. Where do I stand?

Thank you if you read this far!!

OP posts:
Ditheringdooley · 05/08/2020 18:36

You’re not being unreasonable. The shop made you promises, and they should have held up to them. It’s not your fault if the requirements were not communicated to the fitter.

Send the shop an email or go in in person and try to rebook the delivery. It may be that you need to book your own fitting, but in exchange you shouldn’t pay the extra £50 or something. That’s twice that you have tried the shop and they have let you down- prob not worth trying again.

If they don’t agree to that then ask for a refund. You can tell them there has been a total failure of consideration - it’s not a deposit, it’s part payment.

For them to treat it as a deposit makes it a 75% penalty which is unlikely to be enforceable. Threaten a small claim but only as a last resort when you have tried everything else- and you should try your debit card company first.

In future always pay for anything over £100 on a credit card.

Good luck. Pregnant plus a kid is enough to deal with without stroppy servicemen.

Ps- it doesnt matter what usually happens with fitters etc. That probably explains his mood and response but it doesn’t affect the contract you had with the shop for goods and services which were not provided. Mention the sale of goods and provision of services acts (google it).

tillytoodles1 · 05/08/2020 18:53

The child will be eight by now!

Argggghhneedclarity · 05/08/2020 18:53

Sounds like he had a terrible attitude. Being messed around with the times and then being treated like that. I'd be tempted to give them a crap review, even if just to tell friends, neighbours and family to avoid them

BigBadVoodooHat · 05/08/2020 18:53

it doesnt matter what usually happens with fitters etc

None of it matters - it was eight years ago! The shop has since gone bust and the child she was pregnant with is now in KS2! Grin

Argggghhneedclarity · 05/08/2020 18:54

Erm, just noticed how old this thread isBlush

BigBadVoodooHat · 05/08/2020 18:54

I'd be tempted to give them a crap review

Maybe ‘review’ the actual thread first.

BigBadVoodooHat · 05/08/2020 18:55

Erm, just noticed how old this thread isblush

Grin
Inthebackoftheimpala · 05/08/2020 19:00

Wonder does she still have the same husband never mind carpet 😂

Aridane · 05/08/2020 19:15

@Inthebackoftheimpala

Read her latest post

Carpet lasted longer than husband

I LOVE this zombie thread

Aridane · 05/08/2020 19:15

PS OP came back to update the zombie thread.

ratspeaker · 05/08/2020 19:21

Hello, carpet, my old thread
Ive come to post on you again...

Kassandra1 · 05/08/2020 19:27

YABU - you should have had the room empty.

Inthebackoftheimpala · 05/08/2020 19:30

Missed the husband update 😂

madcatladyforever · 05/08/2020 19:32

Give them a stinking online review - they really hate that.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 05/08/2020 19:36

Quote OP: 'I said to the first lad that I understood that he has obviously had a busy morning and he didn't have much patience, but I had been waiting for the delivery too'.

Why did you say this? It seems they took umbrage at your assertiveness and that's what inflamed the situation.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 05/08/2020 19:36

ZOMBIE lol

cansu · 05/08/2020 19:55

The service was shit but it is pretty standard that you move stuff out of the room. The shop should have told you to do this and obviously gave you some bullshit to get the sale. It also sounds like you had a go at the wrong person. Whether they were arses or not, you need to be a bit more savvy. You needed your carpet fitted so you smile sweetly, move your stuff and thank them for moving the furniture for you. Then you never use the shop again and if you feel like it, you tell them why. Now, you have no carpet and a shit storm to sort out.

cuparfull · 05/08/2020 20:07

its not difficult to understand..... You paid the shop for the carpet & the fitters would have got the £50. ...for two people???
Most tradesmen won't turn on the engine these days short of £60 in their hands.

Yes, they were rude (they were most likely pulled off another job} but you didn't help by being so naive.

As a previous poster said... time is money and you were delaying them.

Had you slipped them a tenner, made them a cuppa and apologised for the inconvenience, your problem would likely have been solved.

Even then all the smaller furniture should have been removed. Only courtesy isn't it.

BigBadVoodooHat · 05/08/2020 20:09

Then you never use the shop again and if you feel like it, you tell them why.

Yeah, the shop went bust. Years ago. Because this happened almost a decade ago.

cuparfull · 05/08/2020 20:10

Ooops v old thread.. Still give us something to whinge about as if we don't already have enuff Blush

FlamingoAndJohn · 05/08/2020 20:48

@karala

it's the zombie apocalypse
Perhaps this is the sign of the end of days!
viques · 05/08/2020 20:52

@BuntyII

It has made me laugh so much seeing this thread again 😂 why is it always this one!
It is the veritable Rick Astley of threads.

[siezes microphone from stand, presses play]

Never gonna give you up............Never gonna let you goooooo

OhTheRoses · 05/08/2020 20:53

Grin wasted five minutes reading the first page and thinking "You get what you pay for" Is the carpet threadbare yet?

Thislittlelady · 05/08/2020 20:54

Did you take a picture of the sign telling you they will move furniture??? You need to do this........

ThePluckOfTheCoward · 05/08/2020 21:11

Why won't this ZOMBIE THREAD DIE?

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