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Help!! Carpet fitter has just stormed out. AIBU?

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whenskiesaregrey · 17/04/2012 11:51

Sorry for rambling state of this post, I am a bit upset about the way I have just been spoken to. Also, sorry for the length of the post, I just want to include all the detail.

I ordered some carpet last week to be fitted today. It is a local small carpet shop, not part of a chain. They offer a 'free fitting service', but you pay 75% of the price in the shop, and the remainder once fitted. I presume this is because they sub-contract out the fitting. In my case this was £150 in the shop, and £50 once fitted. I have bought carpet and fitting from this shop before, and the fitting service wasn't great, but they said they were using a different company that day, so I gave them the benefit of the doubt and ordered from them again. In the shop, I mentioned the problems I had had last time (punctuality, not taking old carpet away) and asked for reassurance that the service would be better this time. I was assured it would be.

Carpet was due to be delivered at 9am. At half past 9, no-one had turned up, so I rang the shop asking where they were. I was told they had has a couple of problems this morning and only had one fitter on instead of two, and they might be able to fit me in a 2pm today. I can't do that time as DS has a party 2-4pm, and I work Wed-Fri, so this morning really was the only time this week that was suitable. I explained to the man on the phone that I has problems last time, and was told it would be better this time. So he said he would move some things around, and fit me in about 10am this morning.

At 10, two men arrived to fit the carpet. In the bedroom, the furniture we had left in there was a double bed, a wardrobe, and chester of drawers and two little side units. We had been told in the shop not to worry about moving any furniture out of the room, that they would move it around the room to fit it. DH had taken the mirrored doors off the wardrobe to make it lighter to move, and we had moved all of the other usual bedroom stuff out of the room. The chest of drawers were half empty, just had underwear in them. The bed still had the bedding on it because I didn't think it would make any difference. The little side units did have things in them, but they really are very small, so I thought they be okay. I am 27+ weeks pregnant with PGP, so it is a bit difficult to move things around.

He went to the bedroom and looked around and sighed. The said, you're going to need to get those clothes out of that wardrobe. There wasn't very much in there because we are getting new wardrobes, so it was just a few things to keep us going until the new stuff arrived. I said I would move it, but it shouldn't make much different to the weight. He said if he tried to move the wardrobe, it would collapse, which I said wasn't true as we have just decorated, and have been moving the wardrobe around so we could get to the walls. But I still carried on moving the clothes. He then started opening the drawers in the chest of drawers, which have my underwear etc in. I said the drawers are almost empty, so the underwear shoudn't make any difference to the weight. He then picked up the small unit and dragged it around the room in a way that the drawers all fell forward and the unit nearly tipped up. I said to him that I would move it if he was going to move it like that, and moved the other unit out of the room. He then said 'look love, I'm doing you a favour here, I could leave you to move it by yourself if you want'. By the point, the other lad had turned the double bed up on to its side and was leaning against the window. I said to the first lad that I understood that he has obviously had a busy morning and he didn't have much patience, but I had been waiting for the delivery too. He said 'no patience?! I shouldn't even be here. I'm not staying here and taking this. Do you want me to go'. I said to him if he wanted to go, he should go, but it's his job to fit the carpet. He shouted to the other lad, 'right, we're off', stormed down the stairs and got in the van. The other lad looked a bit sheepish, and I said 'so is he just going to go, leaving the bed on its side and all the furniture like that'. I am quite obviously pregnant, and DS was playing downstairs and shouting to me, so it was obvious that I would not be able to move the furniture back. He said he would have a word with him, but once he had got in the van, they drove off. So the bedroom is left with the very heavy oak double bed on its side, a unit in the middle of the floor, and they left the door open as they stormed out.

I rang the shop and explained that I thought the fitter was very rude, and what was going to happen now. He said that they had done me a favour by moving the other appointments round to fit me in at 10am, and they were wasting time on the phone at the moment, and other appointments needed to be done. He then said it is in my best interest to be flexible with the delivery time, because I wont get my £150 deposit back, because they have ordered the carpet. I then tried to reiterate how rude the fitter had been to me. Apparently the fitter had told the lad in the shop that I refused to move anything out of the room, and that is why he left. Now, if the shop had explained to us to make sure wardrobes were empty, drawers were empty etc, then we would have done it. We told them when we ordered it it was for a bedroom, so you would know the type of furniture would be in there. But we were told that we did not need to get any furniture out of the room, the fitters would work around it.

Was I being unreasonable to the fitter? Is it true I can't get my money back on the carpet? I don't want that fitter back in the house, he really was so horrible to me. I understand he has obviously had a busy day, and I said that to him, but at the end of the day, that isn't my fault and he shouldn't take it out on me. I also don't like the suggestion from the shop that they are doing me a favour by re-arranging the delivery for me, when I have paid for a carpet and fitting, and that is what I expected.

I am pretty upset at the moment, which is probably all pregnancy hormones. I got a bit upset on the phone to the shop, so he said he would ring me back 'when I had calmed down'. So I am waiting for them to call back now. Where do I stand?

Thank you if you read this far!!

OP posts:
1forAll74 · 05/08/2020 17:39

Sounds like a very unprofessional outfit of fitters, and also the shop. If there are crossed wires about moving furniture and such, proper carpet fitters would not be banging about, and getting annoyed, and leaving in a bad mood, and being rude. They would talk things through, for the best outcome for everyone.

FreekStar · 05/08/2020 17:42

We've had carpets fitted and they usually move large furniture for you- but only items that you couldn't possibly have been removed from the room like a bed or large sofa.

It's common sense the remove the drawers altogether from a chest of drawers and put in another room, remove all clothes from a wardrobe, and bedding, and smaller items into other rooms like bedside cabinets- basically anything you fit through the door you take out of the room.

Might be beside the point, but it must be rubbish carpet for only £150!

FreekStar · 05/08/2020 17:42

And you were very rude to talk to the other guy about the first guy in that way!

CaptainHammer · 05/08/2020 17:44

Aw hello old friend. I wonder if the OP even has the same carpet in there anymore!

SeasonFinale · 05/08/2020 17:44

ZOMBIE 2012 thread GrinGrinHmm

Pobblebonk · 05/08/2020 17:45

Somehow I don't think OP or indeed the carpet fitters care whether she was or was not rude to them eight years ago.

CatToddlerUprising · 05/08/2020 17:46

@FreekStar

We've had carpets fitted and they usually move large furniture for you- but only items that you couldn't possibly have been removed from the room like a bed or large sofa.

It's common sense the remove the drawers altogether from a chest of drawers and put in another room, remove all clothes from a wardrobe, and bedding, and smaller items into other rooms like bedside cabinets- basically anything you fit through the door you take out of the room.

Might be beside the point, but it must be rubbish carpet for only £150!

Maybe prices have gone up in the 8 years since this thread was started?
eatsleepread · 05/08/2020 17:46

Let's be honest, you went back to the same place because they're cheap.
YWBU - totally - to expect them to move your furniture, no matter what the shop said.
Poor guys.

Daisy12Maisie · 05/08/2020 17:47

You should have moved the furniture out of the room first. Especially as it's you and your husband so 2 adults. The fitters are going to be annoyed if they are expected to move furniture as well as fit the carpet when moving furniture isnt their job
They dont have time and they wont be insured.

vodkaredbullgirl · 05/08/2020 17:48

resurection 8 yrs on

Thisismytimetoshine · 05/08/2020 17:52

but only items that you couldn't possibly have been removed from the room like a bed or large sofa
Unless they were actually built in the room, how would it be impossible to move them out?

biglouis · 05/08/2020 17:52

If the supplier did not provide the goods or service you paid for and will not refund your money and you paid using a credit or debit card, your card provider – usually your bank – may agree to reverse the transaction. This is called a chargeback. In order to start a chargeback, you should contact your bank or credit card provider immediately. Been there, done it, got the T shirt.

isadorapolly · 05/08/2020 17:56

Every time I’ve had carpet cutters they’ve said I can leave up to 5 items in the room and it’s always been fine.

I bet he wouldn’t have spoken to you like that if you’re DH was there. What a Wanker.

Bemorechicken · 05/08/2020 17:57

@whenskiesaregrey

To be honest, I don't know a huge amount about what is expected, because (apart from last time) DH has always laid any carpet we have got, but obviously the fitters did a better job last time, so I wanted it doing by 'fitters' this time.

The issue I had wasn't that he went in and asked me to move stuff. That's fine, I'm not opposed to moving stuff, although it is a bit of a struggle at the moment! It was his attitude. He really was very horrible.

So get them to drop off the carpet and get your DH to fit it. Don't pay the remaining £50 and name and shame them locally on the FB review -sticking solely to the facts. ie free fitting, was told I did not need to move it. 9am. No one arrived. Had the chase and ring and ...........
DilloDaf · 05/08/2020 17:57

I wonder why this 8 yr old thread keeps getting resurected? hardly a riveting topic.

Bemorechicken · 05/08/2020 17:58

Argh. I was sucked in.

Clumsyduck · 05/08/2020 18:02

It’s back!!!!

lifesalongsong · 05/08/2020 18:03

@IItCantRainAllTheTime

I've just been looking at threads about getting carpet fitted and see this. What a nightmare! I think I will stop looking now. Lol
And you thought, hey, what a good idea to re-start an 8 year old thread, no need to report your thoughts on every thread Grin
Runmybathforme · 05/08/2020 18:04

Chester draws ???

jackdawdawn · 05/08/2020 18:08

If the shop said they were going to move the furniture, then no, YANBU. But I'm surprised by the shop's policy, all the same. I have left beds in rooms but moved everything else, I thought that was standard. Perhaps the fitters are just getting pissed off with the store's policy, they aren't removal men and they work to a pretty tight schedule. But flinging your stuff around wasn't on. I hope you get sorted, life is crap enough right now without having your house upside down.

Seeingadistance · 05/08/2020 18:21

Hey!

It’s the carpet fitter thread, again!

IncrediblySadToo · 05/08/2020 18:26

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

@whenskiesaregrey
@whenskiesaregreyRETURNS

Hi AGAIN

I was sorry to hear about you separating from your DH, I'm not sure if it was because of his stubbornness or not, but it would have been reason enough for me 🤣

We will tar & feather @IItCantRainAllTheTime another time.

I read the thread at the time, but today only thought 'this sounds familiar' and didn't realise it was a zombie thread until about the third deleted 'maryz' post. I miss her & 'the old days'

I'm just being nosy & wondering if you wanted to share another update 2 years on!??

CoRhona · 05/08/2020 18:29

I remember reading this thread first time around!

How time flies... Grin

Leosnewmummy · 05/08/2020 18:32

ZOMBIE THREAD 8 YEARS OLD

cuparfull · 05/08/2020 18:33

The room should have been cleared.

It is not the carpet fitters job to move furniture.....they are paid to lay carpet.

Delaying them is unfair as they are likely to be subcontractors or selfemployed and you are holding them up.

You do appear to have left a lot in there. You could have taken the drawers out of the chest and stacked them in another room without removing stuff from them.
Their insurance would undoubtably not cover them for any damage should your "wardrobe fall apart" as you described. YABVVU

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