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"This is a crisis for everyone": How you can support midwives ahead of Sunday's March for Midwives

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JuliaMumsnet · 16/11/2021 16:14

Hello - here's something from March for Midwives (scroll down for what you can do and tell us below if you're getting involved):

"Four weeks ago four doulas were lying in bed on a Sunday morning having a whatsapp conversation about how hopeless we all felt about the state of maternity care. A Royal College of Midwives (RCM) report last month revealed that 60% of UK midwives are considering leaving the profession, and sadly none of us were surprised. We all had stories to share of midwives in tears and birthing families neglected or coerced through their maternity journey.

One of us, Paula Cleary, who lives in March in Cambridgeshire, said that she was considering having a ‘March in March’ to protest against the understaffing in her local hospital. The rest of us all responded that this needed to be everywhere because this is a nationwide issue!

So March With Midwives was born that morning. Becki Scott set up a Facebook group and we all invited our birthworker friends. It grew rapidly, to over a 1000 people that first week.

We quickly realised this was tapping into the zeitgeist. Maternity workers and families were joining the group in droves, anxious to share their stories. The group became an emotional maelstrom as midwives and parents shared their trauma and sadness. We realised these voices needed to be captured so that the powers that be could really understand the depths of the crisis. So we set up an online form for service users and health professionals to write about how the staffing crisis has affected them, either anonymously or with their name.

We rapidly realised we needed help. The group was growing exponentially and we were inundated with people asking us for guidance on all number of things - are midwives allowed to attend? What is the RCM and NMC saying? How do we risk-assess a local demonstration? Do we need insurance and do we need to alert the police? (All questions we have answers to in the group now - just check our announcements and shared files).

We gathered a steering group around us of fellow doulas and midwives. We knew we needed a diverse group that represented parents, lay birth workers, NHS midwives and independent midwives. And, given the outrageous statistics on increased risk of maternal death for Black and Brown mothers and birthing people, we were also determined to include people from marginalised communities so that their voices could be amplified.

We realised we had an opportunity here to gather a diverse range of maternity voices under one banner, so we embarked on writing a manifesto summing up the issues and calling for some simple, emergency crisis management measures.

We also wrote a template letter for people to send to their MPs. We called for everyone to stand up around the country on the same day, at the same time, and called these gatherings vigils, to underscore the deep grief so many of us feel at the broken state of maternity services.

Meanwhile, the group grew. And grew. At the time of writing the facebook group contains nearly 20,000 people. Our Facebook, Twitter and Instagram pages are growing by the day. Our inboxes are flooded with people sharing their stories and wanting to help. A handful of distressed doulas has grown into a grassroots movement with real momentum.

So what exactly is up with the service? To cut a long story short, we quite simply do not have enough of anything - too few midwives, too few beds, not enough resources or time, which leads to not enough energy or compassion for the families needing support. The result? Parents that are damaged by either too much medical intervention or, conversely, falling through the cracks and not receiving the medical care they need. Those of us working with families in the postnatal period were not surprised when research found that up to a third of mothers/birthing people have symptoms of trauma.

As Elsie Gayle, experienced midwife, says, "The inevitability of the 'shoehorning' of maternity care into structures that continue to cause the systematic erasure of midwives, avoidable damage, deaths and long term trauma to families. It pains me to watch British maternity care diminish to its lowest point ever in the pursuit of the economies of scale."

Burned out midwives are abandoning the wrecked ship in droves; physical and mental health in tatters. Recent research found that midwives are increasingly suffering with PTSD. Urinary tract infections are common because they have no time to go to the toilet and they’re often not drinking on shift to reduce the urge to go. The pandemic has merely exposed an existing crisis in staffing and worsened staff retention. Meanwhile, students are also leaving their courses before graduation or shortly after qualifying, as the work conditions are so horrific. This means that the Government’s assurances that many new midwives are being trained is simply not the solution.

This isn’t a looming crisis. We have known about the staffing issues for years. The stuff has now well and truly hit the fan and we urgently need the voices of parents, midwives and doulas to be heard by the government. This is a crisis that affects everyone. We all have loved ones using this service and potentially carrying the ripple effects of trauma into the rest of their lives.

If you want to get involved, this is what you can do:

  • Join the March With Midwives Facebook group
  • Repost our Twitter and Instagram content
  • Make a 30 second video about why you support the campaign and post it with the hashtag #MarchWithMidwives
  • Write to your MP
  • If you can, find your local vigil (there is a map in the announcements in the Facebook group) and come join us on Sunday 21st November at 2pm

Together, we can amplify the voice of those who are so often silenced."

"This is a crisis for everyone": How you can support midwives ahead of Sunday's March for Midwives
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Prater · 20/11/2021 19:13

Another woman here who had a horrible time at the hand of one particularly awful midwife.

Practically slapped me and told me to stop crying. Nothing to do with underfunding or lack of staff she was just a monster.

It was altogether a very lonely, sad experience that I still remember clear as day many years later.

And please @Izzy24 and others learn to listen to women, I'd have thought it was a pretty essential skill for the job.

chilling19 · 20/11/2021 19:15

@Izzy24

I really hope people will get involved with this.

I started a thread about it yesterday but hardly anyone seems bothered.

Izzy take what has been said on this thread back to the campaign organisers. Stress that if Mumsnet are not on board then something is really wrong with the campaign language and it needs to change immediately. The campaign is not going to succeed if, by trying to 'be kind' to a very small number if 'people', it excludes women.
AnotherEmma · 20/11/2021 19:22

I expect the campaign organisers will just dismiss mumsnet as a hotbed of transphobia Sad

chilling19 · 20/11/2021 19:24

More fool them

Izzy24 · 20/11/2021 19:28

I’m not any part of the organisation of this campaign. I saw it on social media. When I first posted it was because I hadn’t seen a thread about it. I’m sorry for all the hurt it has caused. I still hope people will feel able to support it.

CorvusPurpureus · 20/11/2021 19:30

Agree with many PPs. I'll stand with midwifes & this campaign when they stand with women.

Until then this mother of 3 says nothankyou.

chilling19 · 20/11/2021 19:32

Izzy it hasn't hurt us - we are just fed up of being erased. Also now we know that you were not the author of the OP, this is not your fault. You were trying to do a good thing.

Ashhead24 · 20/11/2021 19:44

I went to join the Facebook group, it seems like an important campaign. Unfortunately on the joining page it makes it very clear that gender critical women aren't welcome. Which is ridiculous given that the word inclusive is written in capitals. Inclusive as long as you hold the right beliefs. Perhaps the organisers should revisit what being inclusive means. I clearly am unwelcome to support this campaign but wish the organisers the best for it.

RedDogsBeg · 20/11/2021 19:44

It's not hurt, it's anger.

RadishRose · 20/11/2021 19:48

The midwives and doctors who delivered my four babies were excellent, but pre- and post-birth “care” was shit. Every time. Nothing to do with money (brand new hospital under Labour government and plenty of other fantastic staff) purely down to brutal midwives who shouldn’t have been in the job. If you can’t listen to women (or even name us) here you have no business being with us when we are at our most vulnerable. Sorry to all those fabulous midwives who do centre women and babies, you have been very let down by this campaign. Let’s hope there are enough birthing parents and chest feeders to keep things afloat.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 20/11/2021 19:55

I’d assumed you were one of the organisers too, Izzy. Whoever they are, hopefully they’ll read this thread & listen to what women are saying.

FooFooFloofyFoof · 20/11/2021 20:10

There are lots of midwives who are sick of the word woman being downgraded and that we are now told by TRAs that we are "assigning gender at birth" to the babies we have helped women give birth to and we should call mothers "birth parent" and breastfeeding "chestfeeding"!

I wonder if the fact that this campaign and the FB group was started by doulas not midwives is why it's got INCLUSIVE and NO TRANSPHOBIC LANGUAGE in shouty letters at the top?

endofagain · 20/11/2021 20:11

Izzy. I am sorry. I too thought you were one of the organisers. I hope you will take on board whatever you have learned from the women on this thread and share it with your colleagues. You dismissed my opinion earlier. It was meant well. I am in my mid 60s with a lot of experience in life and in the NHS. Women are tired of being ignored, belittled, erased. We deserve better. Midwives and women should be natural allies.

endofagain · 20/11/2021 20:14

Why are doulas running the show?
One of the really obvious characteristics of the current war on women is the constant shouting of "me, me, me". It seems to be a theme.

RadishRose · 20/11/2021 20:18

@RedDogsBeg

It's not hurt, it's anger.
This.
Clymene · 20/11/2021 20:21

@Izzy24

I’m not any part of the organisation of this campaign. I saw it on social media. When I first posted it was because I hadn’t seen a thread about it. I’m sorry for all the hurt it has caused. I still hope people will feel able to support it.
I'm not hurt either, I'm angry. Although I do apologise for thinking you were one of the organisers.

Bit if a poor show that they weren't on the thread fighting their corner rather than leaving you alone. You last post was great. Midwifery is WITH WOMEN. If that had been the OP, I doubt there would have been the pushback.

As an aside (and totally nothing to do with you), I find it a bit frightening that women who aren't medically trained but whose job is to advocate for women during childbirth want to silence women to this extent. I had always thought of their role as about fighting a labouring woman's corner when she is unable to do so herself but clearly that isn't the case.

Which makes me wonder what they're for.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/11/2021 20:35

It's @MaddieM who is one of the organisers needing to listen to women.

ICantChoose · 20/11/2021 20:39

[quote RosettaTheGardenFairy]@MaddieM - you say 'Women are not being erased when we use additive language" but we're telling you we FEEL erased, and you are not listening! You are diminishing our concerns and feelings as 'boring deflections' to your cause. Do you really not see how sad this is: You're calling for us to support you, but we feel unsupported by you in what we consider to be an important topic, but that you deem to be an 'unnecessary rant'. Women are expressing their opinions on this thread, and you act as though we are inconveniencing you.

The very first post on this thread queried why this topic wasn't gaining traction on Mumsnet, you've been given the answer over and over again. Listen.[/quote]
Completely agree with this!

Thedogscollar · 20/11/2021 20:50

@FooFooFloofyFoof

There are lots of midwives who are sick of the word woman being downgraded and that we are now told by TRAs that we are "assigning gender at birth" to the babies we have helped women give birth to and we should call mothers "birth parent" and breastfeeding "chestfeeding"!

I wonder if the fact that this campaign and the FB group was started by doulas not midwives is why it's got INCLUSIVE and NO TRANSPHOBIC LANGUAGE in shouty letters at the top?

I am so against this inclusive language entering midwifery services. I said so at a study day our unit held on the language we use in midwifery. It was dismissed by a much younger midwife in charge of our developmental trainingHmm

This inclusive language has no place in midwifery. Only woman have a vagina, cervix and uterus all required to give birth. As for chestfeeding and human milkAngry

I have spent time with two doulas whilst giving care to women in labour. That was a real eye opener. Let's just say very, very easy money.
I will never change my language to cater to a minority. A woman's body is bloody marvellous we incubate our babies we give birth to them and we feed them. We should be loud and proud.

I can honestly say the midwives in my unit are not in favour of this inclusive language which seems to appearing everywhere.
I think you may be right @ FooFoo this sounds like doula speak to me.

AnotherEmma · 20/11/2021 20:51

"I find it a bit frightening that women who aren't medically trained but whose job is to advocate for women during childbirth want to silence women to this extent. I had always thought of their role as about fighting a labouring woman's corner when she is unable to do so herself but clearly that isn't the case."

Absolutely. I am very pro-doula, having understand their value after a traumatic first birth when I could really have done with one! So I hired a doula for my second birth. And discovering that my doula and her colleagues, the very people who are supposed to be on our side, bought into this change in language was very upsetting for me.

AnotherEmma · 20/11/2021 20:53

To clarify: I still think doulas are wonderful. I just think they're wrong on this particular issue, of language.

endofagain · 20/11/2021 20:57

A labouring woman is very, very vulnerable. Nobody should be taking advantage of that for their own political or ideological agenda. That is nothing short of abuse.

endofagain · 20/11/2021 21:05

@Thedogscollar, who is organising this training? I would like to write to them and encourage others to do the same.

SilkLabrador · 20/11/2021 21:38

The NHS, better than dying in agony, but only just.

EuromamaAussiekids · 20/11/2021 21:41

Almost 12 years ago I had a midwife who said she would refuse to discharge myself and baby if I did not get the hang of breast feeding her at the hospital! I was a horomonal mess and pretended to feel confident with bf at the hospital.
Then a few days later she forgot to inform the community midwives that we had been discharged and I then had to arrange that myself (lots of phone calls)