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Should MN support a BPAS call for non-protest 'buffer zones' outside abortion clinics? Tell MNHQ what you think

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RowanMumsnet · 20/11/2014 14:47

Hello all

We've been contacted by the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, who want to know whether Mumsnet can support a call they're going to make for buffer zones around abortion clinics - and as ever we'd like to run it past MNers to see what you think.

Here's what BPAS say:

'Over recent years there has been an escalation in anti-abortion activity outside clinics in the UK. Women attending pregnancy advice and abortion centres are now regularly exposed to groups of anti-abortion activists standing directly outside. Many of these protesters bear large banners of dismembered foetuses, distribute leaflets containing misleading information about abortion, and follow and question women as they enter or leave the centres. Often, these people carry cameras strapped to their chests or positioned on a tripod. Women report feeling intimidated and distressed by this activity as they try to access a lawful healthcare service in confidence. Pregnant staff at clinics have on occasion needed escorting from the building by the police. Recently, NHS staff on premises where a clinic is located have felt so intimidated by the presence outside they have asked for the abortion service to be withdrawn. The closure of a service as a result of anti-abortion activity would be unprecedented.'

'We believe enough is enough.'

'One in three women will have an abortion in her lifetime. We are a society which values freedom of speech, but also one where the vast majority of us support a woman’s access to abortion services. The right to protest needs to be balanced with the right of pregnant women to obtain advice and treatment in confidence and free from intimidation. For those who wish to campaign to restrict women’s reproductive choices, there are plenty of opportunities and locations in which to do so. The space immediately outside a clinic need not and should not not be one of them.'

'Women should feel confident that they can approach centres for advice and services without fear of intimidation, or anxious that their identity will be compromised by protesters filming outside. Establishing access zones free from anti-abortion activists around clinics would provide the reassurance and security women need. We urge all political parties to act to protect women as they make their own personal decision about their pregnancy. Women deserve nothing less.'

We know MNers tend to feel fairly strongly about abortion and that there are views on both sides of this debate - so do please let us know what you think.

Thanks

MNHQ

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Aduaz · 29/11/2014 21:01

Icimoi I don't think it is easy for them at all, it must be very difficult and stressful. But we live in a democracy where you can't just shut down other opinions because it stresses you out when people express those opinions to you. The entire point of an anti abortion protest outside a clinic is that's where their target audience is. They want YOU the pregnant woman about to have an abortion to hear their message and change your mind. You have the right to go for an abortion, why shouldn't they have a right to try and convince you to change your mind? Yes it upsets and offends pregnant women to encounter a protest at a clinic but that's the way it is. It's a democracy where anyone can have their say so you better get used to hearing opinions that you don't like. Why should they have to move away from the clinic, diminishing the impact of their protest, just because their presence their offends you?

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:01

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FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 29/11/2014 21:03

Aduaz - actually, I don't have the right to an abortion.

What say you to that?

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:04

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FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 29/11/2014 21:05

Are you actually seriously suggesting I feel inferior to a MAN?

basgetti · 29/11/2014 21:06

It's a democracy where anyone can have their say so you better get used to hearing opinions that you don't like.

Please have a quick google of UK law on freedom of speech and harassment, your continued spouting false information as fact is irritating.

PolterGoose · 29/11/2014 21:07

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Sabrinnnnnnnna · 29/11/2014 21:07

And I'm still not scared, therealwildeone.

Legion my arse. Not when HQ sees your posts.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:08

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therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:12

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Aduaz · 29/11/2014 21:14

therealwildeone sorry but I have to stop you there. It's clear that the only sexism allowed here is sexism against men, words like "mansplaining" quite common. Sexism directed against women is completely forbidden. Because equality see

TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet · 29/11/2014 21:15

AHEM

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 29/11/2014 21:15

I doubt he has much contact with women, Frau.

LeopardInABobbleHat · 29/11/2014 21:15

Why are MNHQ allowing these nutters to still be here?

HermioneWeasley · 29/11/2014 21:16

I see the thread has moved on, but in response to the original question, I support the idea

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:16

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FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 29/11/2014 21:16

Snort.

Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day.

YonicScrewdriver · 29/11/2014 21:17

It's moved, Hermione. It's debatable whether that movement was "onwards" Grin

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:17

Sabrina,
"not when HQ sees your post..."

that's so cute

i have simply expressed one opinion. the rest has been response to aggressive comment from 'the regulars'...
maybe HQ will stop my account (wouldn't be too suprising...after all, the motto seems to be "agree with me or i'll silence you"). maybe they'll send germaine greer round to my house. or maybe (and it's a long shot) they'll actually excercise a little shake of the democracy and freethinking that the internet lives by.

much love

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 29/11/2014 21:18

Nooo Olivia, don't just AHEM us - the goaders are having Saturday night on us - and they've not even brought Wine

Hmm
FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 29/11/2014 21:19

therealwildone - oh how I'd love it if they'd send me round. I could demonstrate just exactly how submissive I am for you.

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:20

Right on Aduaz.
It's a shame, because any intelligent person can see that the overall tone shown by many members here is highly damaging to the feminist cause. which, even by name, is fairly disgusting....shouldn't we be aiming for equality?!?!?

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 29/11/2014 21:21

The motto is 'don't join MN to be a goady fucker' actually, the-not-really-that-wilde-one-if-your-idea-of-fun-is-to-join-up-to-post-goady-fucker-posts.

HTH. Have a nice day.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:22

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therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:23

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