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Should MN support a BPAS call for non-protest 'buffer zones' outside abortion clinics? Tell MNHQ what you think

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RowanMumsnet · 20/11/2014 14:47

Hello all

We've been contacted by the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, who want to know whether Mumsnet can support a call they're going to make for buffer zones around abortion clinics - and as ever we'd like to run it past MNers to see what you think.

Here's what BPAS say:

'Over recent years there has been an escalation in anti-abortion activity outside clinics in the UK. Women attending pregnancy advice and abortion centres are now regularly exposed to groups of anti-abortion activists standing directly outside. Many of these protesters bear large banners of dismembered foetuses, distribute leaflets containing misleading information about abortion, and follow and question women as they enter or leave the centres. Often, these people carry cameras strapped to their chests or positioned on a tripod. Women report feeling intimidated and distressed by this activity as they try to access a lawful healthcare service in confidence. Pregnant staff at clinics have on occasion needed escorting from the building by the police. Recently, NHS staff on premises where a clinic is located have felt so intimidated by the presence outside they have asked for the abortion service to be withdrawn. The closure of a service as a result of anti-abortion activity would be unprecedented.'

'We believe enough is enough.'

'One in three women will have an abortion in her lifetime. We are a society which values freedom of speech, but also one where the vast majority of us support a woman’s access to abortion services. The right to protest needs to be balanced with the right of pregnant women to obtain advice and treatment in confidence and free from intimidation. For those who wish to campaign to restrict women’s reproductive choices, there are plenty of opportunities and locations in which to do so. The space immediately outside a clinic need not and should not not be one of them.'

'Women should feel confident that they can approach centres for advice and services without fear of intimidation, or anxious that their identity will be compromised by protesters filming outside. Establishing access zones free from anti-abortion activists around clinics would provide the reassurance and security women need. We urge all political parties to act to protect women as they make their own personal decision about their pregnancy. Women deserve nothing less.'

We know MNers tend to feel fairly strongly about abortion and that there are views on both sides of this debate - so do please let us know what you think.

Thanks

MNHQ

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Sabrinnnnnnnna · 29/11/2014 21:23

Oh no, Buffy. I'm bereft - someone joined up to cheer on the anti-women poster and.... and....

TheHoneyBadger · 29/11/2014 21:25

gone by morning those two

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:26

come on now,
i'm only even here because i'm waiting to take out the old ball and chain...and of course (as with all women) she takes 4 hours to get ready.
admit it...even you realise that i'm joking there.

TheHoneyBadger · 29/11/2014 21:26

perhaps f4j or www.ican'tgetlaidbecausethemwomenarebitches.com are having server problems tonight.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:27

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TheHoneyBadger · 29/11/2014 21:28

the foreign legion maybe?

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 29/11/2014 21:28

It's all a bit tragic, really, Wildey.

This is a serious thread, on a serious subject.

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:29

threats??
come on now...bit of a reach.
perhaps i'm also racist? or a member os ISIS?

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:29

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FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 29/11/2014 21:29

It's easy to joke about something that doesn't really matter to you.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:31

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PolterGoose · 29/11/2014 21:31

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therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:31

sabrina,
it is a serious subject. an yet you insist on being confrontational with people of opposing views (which could well be cultural in the case of aduaz or myself).

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:33

frauhelga...your assumption that i don't care about the issue of a woman being able to choose what she wants to do with her own body, is a little prejudiced (dare i say sexist).

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:35

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Sabrinnnnnnnna · 29/11/2014 21:36

You don't have only an opposing view.

You have a view that endorses the harassment of individual women outside clinic, accessing medical care.

You are entitled to an opposing view - that's not really in question. I couldn't care less on your view, or Aduaz's -cultural or not. You are entitled to it.

I care about women having the right to access a legal procedure without intimidation, having their photo taken and posted, having access blocked and so on.

And that's what BPAS is campaigning for.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 29/11/2014 21:37

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therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:41

no no no.
to be clear...i believe a human's body is their own. i believe a woman should be able to do as she pleases (including drug use during pregnancy). do you believe that a woman should be allowed to use heroin through pregnancy?!? it's her body, right?
aaaaaah, not so clear cut now?!?
i am 100% libertarian...my body is my meat. your's is your meat (regardless of whether or not you have a baby inside you).

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 29/11/2014 21:41

therealwildone - should I be offended that you think I'm sexist?

I absolutely believe that a person of one sex is intrinsically superior to a person of the other. No problem at all stating that.

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 29/11/2014 21:41

100% libertarian eh?

We know your sort.

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:43

and i wasn't invoking my culture...i was just saying that you have no concept of anyones motivation. i am a standard british boy, raised by a woman, married to a woman, and completely agnostic.
just a bit of detail to save you from making more assumptions

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 29/11/2014 21:43

"my body is my meat"

Urgh

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:43

frauhelga....you think men are better than women?!? wow!

FrauHelgaMissMarpleandaChuckle · 29/11/2014 21:44

A boy married to a woman? Says it all really.

Might I suggest you go off and beat your meat?

Do have fun.

therealwildeone · 29/11/2014 21:44

frauhelga...what is your body made of?!? candy?