D'ya ever wonder who passed the responsibility for starting a new d'ya ever wonder thread...

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It was ruby... she passed it to the newbie!

Oh Shabs only yesterday I was in a shop and they were playing that, I stopped and listened and just thought of Matt and you, the girl behind the till just looked at me as though I was barmy! Such a good song for Matty with his twinkling eyes xx
I must go to my bed, my side is sore, its getting me down, my night cap is a glass of fybogel and 2 ibuprofen! Try and rest Shabs, and remember..........can`t think who told me this...................
all will be well..................xxx

Morning [eyelids stuck down emoticon] that was a long night. Ended up in bed with Tom. He spent all night 'talking to me'- babbling on about very strange stuff!! His temperature is much better this morning though. Says he feels hungry.

Goodmorning Shabs, just a quickie wanted to know how Tom was and you, are you keeping him off today? Mine have just gone off, arguing to the last!!

He's much better and Im keeping him off today. I have a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp - all saggy and grumpy

hi all again-

I know I should be happy as a lark but week four of twindom sees the whole family with a horrid cough and the babies sneezing and sleeping even less than usual. The twins and I have been sharing a bed but they have got really sensitive to each others' crying now and last night I was awake from 11.30 to 4 and then from 5 again.....

Any good ideas to assist twin night time sleep or bed sharing? We have used a little bit of dummy action but with caution cos of the breastfeeding. I am just feeling a bit jealous of those on the august postnatal thread saying 'it is just amazing how much newborns sleep'......er .....not in this house!

Hope you are all well- there have been about 500 posts since I last looked so apologies for not keeping up!

Gosh Shabs - I got chills reading that. No wonder you were doing your nut. What a great excuse to cuddle your baby all night though.

fusty (can I call you that? ) I don't think many of us have much advice about the first few weeks except just grit your teeth and get through it as best you can. Our way was that DH slept in the spare room and I slept in the double bed with a DT on either side so I never got out of bed, I just rolled over when one cried and plugged a boob in, then fell back to sleep. Didn't always work if they needed it at the same time (I couldn't tandem feed). The priority for me in the first few weeks was to keep night quiet and dark with as little movement as possible. I know that lots of people wouldn't be comfortable with their babies in bed with them for safety reasons, but it really worked for me.

Then at two months, once we had got to know each other and settle a bit more, I started bringing in a routine. I put them in another room (sad because with DS1 and 4, they stayed with me for much longer) and refused to get up with them between 12-2am. They got used to that and I gradually increased it from 11.30-2.30, then 11-3, etc until they were sleeping through at about five months (teething and colds excepting, of course).

Anyone else?

You brought back funny memories for me then Momma! I used to express milk for Gareth because he struggled to BF - mine always woke up together. We woke up one morning about 3 hours after we had started feeding them both. Dan was still attached to me and using me as a dummy and the teat on Gareths bottle was just in his mouth. I had not changed their nappys and they hadn't been burped.

Happy days?????xxx

Oh Rubester - you little rebel Im sure I didn't do anything like that

afternoon all. Shabs - your note about Matt had me in tears. Hope you're ok, sending lots of virtual hugs and love across the Pennines

Have I told any of you that DH is going to Australia? He is going to his 20 year school reunion and is going to be away for 2.5 weeks in October I may need some propping up whilst he is gone!

Afternoon everyone. Shabs - hope Tom is OK now and hope you are too - can't even imagine how much that must have shook you up.

My two both have stinking colds and hacking coughs - they are off school today. Am really hoping they make a miraculous recovery though as have their first swimming lessons after school tomorrow - I hope!

Reading the posts about night feeding made me smile. I remember with my two, we had them in a cot in our room for the first 6 weeks. I would wake (sort of) and take one into bed with me and feed her. However, I was so sleep deprived I would obviously return them to the cot in a total haze and immediately crash back to sleep. However, I would then often wake with a start, throw the duvet off and start searching in the bed for the baby! DH got quite used to this and in the end kept a little torch next to him to shone on their cot and show me both babies were safely back in the cot. Such happy times!

Afternoon ladies x

What an awful, awful night you had shabs! Are you all doing OK now? You must never, ever, ever think you are useless again... You may occasionally be allowed to feel old and knackered though

I'm sure Tom's weirdness last night was just down to his fever but it must have been a big shock. Fever commonly gives children hallucinations. I used to get sounds - drums banging, witches laughing that didn't stop when I was awake. My sis had visions of walking chairs and my bro had vampires chasing him.

Congrats mars on great auntiedom!

fusty @estar. My two singletons had dummies very occasionally when I could be arsed with sterilising for about 6 weeks, it didn't seem to interfere with the breastfeeding - whatever gets you through! I have nothing very helpful to say other than why anybody would expect someone to be 'happy as a lark' during week four of twindom I don't know. I loved my babies and had stupifying amounts of happy hormones with my two singletons but I was definitely not 'happy as a lark' and they were just one baby at a time. I think you are allowed some much grumping. I shall expect to be grumping too when mine come. Love the breastfeeding but not looking forward to the being woken every two hours to have sore nipples bitten.

Guess what? I have done nothing all day
Rubes, dt3 is James, and er round his bits and bum.....yuk!

DT3 bum and bits xxx

I have done something today! DD's 'big 3 girl' birthday tomorrow and I went to pick up DS from school, got waterfields lunch We went to sainsburys and got her a big disney princess cake and a princess card. She's getting this disgusting thing and a singing disney princess book thing with some kind of wand attachment!

Went to my mum's for dinner yesterday and she gave dd her birthday present - a sleeping beauty barbie thing and a sleeping beauty dress up! DD has not taken the dress up off apart from at bedtime. I have no idea how I gave birth to something so pink.

I have had a very productive day .

I have defrosted the fridge
I have done a big Sainsbury's shop in record time with all 3 girls in tow (well in the trolley actually )
And... I have applied for a JOB

curiosity, all my girls were very 'pink' (and therefore, so was our house ). DD1 has recently informed me that she is now too old for pink...apparently, purple is ok though . Happy birthday to your DD for tomorrow.

HM, as Momma predicted before DH went away to Singapore, it can actually be quite empowering to cope alone (for a short time...I wouldn't want to do it long term). I can highly recommend joining lovefilm.com and working your way through whatever box set of American TV your DH refuses to watch with you . I managed the first 2 series of Grey's Anatomy and consumed a lot of chocolate .

Mars, congrats on becoming a great-auntie. Hope DN and DGN are doing well .

Shabs, hope you have had a better day and Tom is feeling better.

fustilarian, all my 3 have had dummies. It certainly didn't affect my breast-feeding DD1 (fed her for 9 months) and I don't think it affected feeding the DTs (but thrush put paid to my efforts there after 5 weeks - I'm sure I'd have got through it if I'd known Mars and Momma then . And yes, the first few weeks are a blur of sleep deprivation, but I do recall saying to someone after feeling like I'd been feeding for 22 out of the previous 24 hours (TMI alert) that my nipples felt like they'd had jump leads attached to them for 24 hours . I do sympathise...it will get easier I promise. Sending virtual matchsticks, a tin of chocolate brownies and a large vat of coffee .

Tk - Thanks for the birthday wishes for dd, I am just a teensy bit excited (can you tell?). I like my DCs getting bigger. DD will accept purple but only if she can call it pink. She plumbed new depths on holiday when asking for prawn sandwiches because they were pink and generally refusing other none pink foods. She is putting her pink 'fluffly' blanket on the TV to make it 'a pink' as I type...

What's the job then? Rather an exciting thought!

HM - Sorry I missed that about your DH. 2.5 weeks on a jolly, alright for some eh? You'll be fine though, as TK says it might be a bit lonely but things can be a lot easier without a husband getting under your feet and you'll feel all powerful when he returns.

When are you planning your jolly for?

HM I did a three week stint with DH away and did the same - geared myself up for it, put the kids to bed extra early every night (sometimes with a DVD ) then spoilt myself every night once I'd got my jobs done. When lovely people offered to come and keep me company while DH was away I had to resist shouting 'Noooooo...!' at them. I successfully managed to divert them to helping me with the DCs during the day then getting rid of them before my me time in the evenings .

curiosity, when people say to me 'Oh, what a lot of boys, don't you want a girl?' I can always honestly say that I don't do girly girls anyway and if I'd had a houseful of girls I would have striven to make them all tomboys! My nieces are very pink and like you, I find it very overwhelming. I'm sure there's a lot more princessy, make-upy, girly stuff around now (therefore more pressure for them to be pink) than there was when we were growing up.

Mars, I felt vert guilty at making my aunties and uncles into GRaunties and GRuncles. My parents were only 45 and their brothers and sisters are younger than them, and some spouses even younger. One of my aunts (who was about 33) said she didn't mind - she was already a great auntie anyway. A couple of them went on to have more kids so I have cousins younger than my children. It's great at family parties .

estar - It's funny what you say about your guilt at making your aunties and uncles into great aunties and uncles. I felt the same, my parents are both the eldest in their families. Their siblings moaned nonstop about it making them sound old and moaned about me getting married too! lol

Be careful with all that tempting of fate you are doing! You might end up with the pinkest little girl in the world this time around!

I really worried what I'd do when dd was a baby if she turned into a pink girl as I found my sister difficult for her pinkness as a child. I have found it's not bad at all really. I have no idea where it comes from - obviously having an older brother she has had some hand me down clothes and all the toys in the house were predominently 'boys toys' when she was growing up.

I find her quite funny now and I can even really enjoy choosing her something completely disgusting that I know she'll REALLY love! It gets a bit like a game, "I'll take the most disgusting pink/princess/girly toy you have shopkeeper. No, doesn't matter what but if it has hair dd can brush or sparkles that would be superior, thak you!"

She's also absolutely crackers which adds to the effect. Lovely dd

Whatever Tom had I am now the proud owner of it!!! Even the hair in my nostrils is aching. Tom has fell fast akip on the sofa [cant cope emoticon] going to be another long night!