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One twin wants to sleep in the same room, the other doesn’t…

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marlus · 05/12/2024 21:29

Our b/g twins are 9, going on ten. Initially they both thought they wanted their own rooms, so we made this happen for their ninth birthday in April. Our son was the one who moved downstairs (the other bedrooms are upstairs) and found it difficult to settle. He missed his sister and felt “it affected our bond”. He struggled to fall asleep and sometimes would cry. His room doubles as the guest room, so when my mum came to stay for an extended period, he was very happy to sleep on a mattress in his sister’s floor. Since then we’ve had a hard time moving him down again. At the moment we’re trying some compromise of some nights together and some nights apart, but neither one of them ends up happy this way. We’ve discussed sleeping in bunk beds upstairs again, but having separate play rooms, but our daughter feels that’s too permanent. This evening things ended up so muddled that they both ended up crying. I’m still trying to find a compromise, but getting nowhere. Any advice?

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FrannyScraps · 05/12/2024 22:08

marlus · 05/12/2024 22:02

I think you need to work on your sons resilience.

Thnks for this. We do more generally- as I said he’s quite sensitive, but I’m finding this a difficult scenario when he can’t sleep and ends up crying with tiredness, plus feels so unwanted. I was hoping that other twin parents have been through something similar and have advice on what to say/do to make this better for him. Choosing the better room might be part of that, but he actually likes his room better (it’s bigger, en suite, etc).

Then I dont understand why you don't have this room? You're being weird about it.

marlus · 05/12/2024 22:08

Any ideas on how to make him feel safer and better able to get to sleep. He’s just popped up saying he can’t sleep…

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Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:09

MyChicNewt · 05/12/2024 22:06

Even if the girl has started puberty? Girls can start any time after age 9. I think 12 is much too late to have to share with a boy even if he is a twin.

Well we’ve not been told that, or have we?

I didn’t hit puberty till 12 or 13.

CommanderMariettaHay · 05/12/2024 22:09

What about them having a walkie-talkie each if they both agree? That way they can stay in the separate rooms. Yet still communicate while they adjust to having separate spaces.

Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:09

marlus · 05/12/2024 22:08

Any ideas on how to make him feel safer and better able to get to sleep. He’s just popped up saying he can’t sleep…

soft music and night light?

MyChicNewt · 05/12/2024 22:09

marlus · 05/12/2024 22:06

I think you’re giving them both too many choices and options. You are the adult, you need to make a decision and stick to it.
This is so true, I’m even confusing myself… I’m all about finding the compromise, but it’s just not working here. The consensus seems to be that he just has to get over it, potentially upstairs. I have a soft spot for him because he’s struggled a lot and she’s had an easier time of it, but that’s probably just clouding my judgement.

But do you want your daughter to grow up to resent you and probably him because you always see things from his perspective?

DoreenonTill8 · 05/12/2024 22:11

FrannyScraps · 05/12/2024 22:08

Then I dont understand why you don't have this room? You're being weird about it.

Why did he get the bigger room with the ensuite? Did you draw lots or decide he'd get the better room as he's your favourite who you have a 'soft spot' for over your daughter?

GrumpyCactus · 05/12/2024 22:11

Can he not sleep or is he still worked up because he didn't get his own way? Honestly you're giving this way too much headspace and by trying to appease him you're giving in to his idea that it's something he should not be happy about. Sometimes the best strategy is to be a bit firmer about it and not look for compromises.

Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:11

Why do these threads always have to dig for an attack angle?

Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:12

What about glow in the dark space stickers op? Might boost the appeal of the space room too!

MyChicNewt · 05/12/2024 22:14

Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:09

Well we’ve not been told that, or have we?

I didn’t hit puberty till 12 or 13.

I don't know if it's guidance only but in social housing there is certainly a view that opposite sex children sharing over the age of 10 an give priority to larger homes with more bedrooms. I accept these children are not yet 10 but I still say 12 is too old to have to share with opposite sex sibling.

DragonFly98 · 05/12/2024 22:14

marlus · 05/12/2024 21:48

We thought that might be the issue, but tonight they suddenly both wanted to sleep downstairs 🤔. His sister would be happy to be downstairs but we did quite a lot to their rooms to make them cozy and ‘theirs’ with one very pink and one very space-themed, so it would be quite a job, and he is adamant that it’s about her, not us. He’s just always been next to her and is a bit of a sensitive soul. The downstairs room is too small for my husband and me, unfortunately….

unless the downstairs room can’t physically fit a double bed it’s big enough. Having a young child in their own downstairs isn’t safe. Swap with your son.

justforthisnow · 05/12/2024 22:15

I am a twin, b/g, I'm the girl (middle aged girl now). My brother was always prioritised and his feelings and wishes always always overrode mine, usually to my detriment, and usually in scenarios exactly like this. If your daughter wants her own space, she deserves it and it is not her job or role to comfort her twin because he can't cope without her literally beside him in a bedroom. Is their dynamic in a wider sense like this? It was exhausting for me and I resented it hugely. It definitely affected me, as I was held responsible for my twins emotional and otherwise health, but I was only a child myself. I dont recommend it.
It's been said on this thread but you need to make a decision and be the adult here.

justforthisnow · 05/12/2024 22:16

CommanderMariettaHay · 05/12/2024 22:09

What about them having a walkie-talkie each if they both agree? That way they can stay in the separate rooms. Yet still communicate while they adjust to having separate spaces.

No. This means the twin girl is still responsible for her brothers wellbeing, because he gets to chat whenever he wants and she has to answer, but she has made it clear she wants her own bedroom/space away from him, which is not unreasonable.

Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:17

MyChicNewt · 05/12/2024 22:14

I don't know if it's guidance only but in social housing there is certainly a view that opposite sex children sharing over the age of 10 an give priority to larger homes with more bedrooms. I accept these children are not yet 10 but I still say 12 is too old to have to share with opposite sex sibling.

I think j you are looking to take issue with what I said. What I actually said was “ I don’t think 9 is too old…. 11 or 12 yes.”

I therefore was not suggesting sharing at over 10.

Children change a lot in 6 months.

TrippTover · 05/12/2024 22:18

MyChicNewt · 05/12/2024 22:03

Why should the wants of a sensitive boy completely override the feelings of a girl? She is much more likely to start puberty before him and deserves some privacy. I'm quite worried that so many are saying 'poor boy' what about the girl?

Wow your posts are quite extreme….. the girl has her own room, as she desired. I 1) never said anything about her having to share again and 2) never denied she would have started puberty - that’s blindly obviously part of the issue.
I see the male-hating on this site doesn’t exclude prepubescent ones! Wind your neck in.

Rocksaltrita · 05/12/2024 22:18

I think your son feels left out. Binned off to another floor, not just another room! And he’s the more sensitive one? Why did you do that? Surely the ‘braver’ twin should have got the downstairs? None of this makes sense.

EmpressaurusKitty · 05/12/2024 22:19

I’d expect that if your DD finds herself forced to keep sharing a room with him, that would have a much worse effect on their bond. I dont think walkie talkies would be a good idea either, it would still mean her being responsible for comforting / entertaining him.

MyChicNewt · 05/12/2024 22:20

Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:17

I think j you are looking to take issue with what I said. What I actually said was “ I don’t think 9 is too old…. 11 or 12 yes.”

I therefore was not suggesting sharing at over 10.

Children change a lot in 6 months.

Sorry, I misread your post. I can see that we are on same wavelength really!

TrippTover · 05/12/2024 22:20

Rocksaltrita · 05/12/2024 22:18

I think your son feels left out. Binned off to another floor, not just another room! And he’s the more sensitive one? Why did you do that? Surely the ‘braver’ twin should have got the downstairs? None of this makes sense.

Exactly. The same people going on about how we should consider the girl’s feelings, probably also bang on about how males can’t feel and bulldoze female opinions….. so should surely be encouraging boys to be sensitive! I despair.

crumblingschools · 05/12/2024 22:20

How many bedrooms upstairs?

Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:21

TrippTover · 05/12/2024 22:18

Wow your posts are quite extreme….. the girl has her own room, as she desired. I 1) never said anything about her having to share again and 2) never denied she would have started puberty - that’s blindly obviously part of the issue.
I see the male-hating on this site doesn’t exclude prepubescent ones! Wind your neck in.

Yes it’s completely boring.

Boys have needs too. Not more important, but they need balancing - which is precisely what op is trying to do.

Gcsunnyside23 · 05/12/2024 22:21

marlus · 05/12/2024 22:06

I think you’re giving them both too many choices and options. You are the adult, you need to make a decision and stick to it.
This is so true, I’m even confusing myself… I’m all about finding the compromise, but it’s just not working here. The consensus seems to be that he just has to get over it, potentially upstairs. I have a soft spot for him because he’s struggled a lot and she’s had an easier time of it, but that’s probably just clouding my judgement.

But there is no compromise, your daughter doesn't want to scare so there's no discussion on that. Switching bedrooms if they both want but but much else you can do. It doesn't matter if you have a soft spot you can't prioritise his feelings

marlus · 05/12/2024 22:23

Thanks everyone, it’s been good to get a fresh perspective. Tbf they both wanted their own rooms before, so no one was prioritised in that. Thanks for your perspective justforthisnow you are so right! As is everyone who says I’ve been over complicating this. Time to be firmer and help him to settle in his room. Soft music, glow stickers and night light are already in place, but have given him a weighted stuffed animal to cuddle just now and will go check on him in a little while.

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Calliopespa · 05/12/2024 22:23

MyChicNewt · 05/12/2024 22:20

Sorry, I misread your post. I can see that we are on same wavelength really!

Children change really fast. It may just be even a couple of months too soon for him.

Lots if tines I’ve wondered how we are going to hit a “target” like this looming a few months off with one of our Dc ( eg a sleepover/ school camp etc) then suddenly they are just uber-ready out of nowhere.