d'ya every wonder how life carried on and on and on.....

[Kelly1978]

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Too much waffling, you know who you are

I jsut wanted to psot to say good luck hm, hope you can hold out, but it really sounds like things are moving. Jsut think you could be cuddled upw ith your baby by tomorrow morning!

Glad to hear dt2 is better, fg.

Hi Mars - I am going to wait for HD to come back tomorrow night and then try him in the bed again, I just need some sleep and an easier life so tonight its definitely the cot for DT2....

So whens the meet up???!!!

Im 29 HM, blimin heck will be 30 in August though Dh is only just 26....

Am in a black mood owing to loss of PE kits. Have looked everywher and fear dh > has put them either in the storage room behind lots of very heavy boxes stacked higher than me or in the nightmare that is our garage. I nearly sat on the floor and cried this morning having pulled the garage apart. DS and dd need them for school and i cant afford new kits! Just a small thing but apparantly enought to tip me over the edge today...

blimey LG&T I'll be 37 in August good news about DH though

aha a youngster - I am 35 this August....

What a nightmare with the pe kits....I burst into tears at the slightest thing to be honest at the moment so sort of know how you feel!

Hi dolly

I did the stairs thing with four kids too, moved though just when the twins started crawling thank god. Its bad that the council won't move you.

1becomes3, I saw your message on the podee, no experience of it so I didn't post. But, I did express for my twins as I also didnt have the time to feed two with two older kids to sort out and I jsut used to prop bottles up for them and that worked fine, seems far easier than the podee, which I've heard the baby needs to suck really hard to get going.

I was dreading 3 school runs a day but I think the boys are going to like the strict routine, they have been fairly good with it so far. Except this moring when I thought they were peacefully playing upstairs and went up to find the bathroom flooded and both of them soaked from head to toe.

I'm starting to feel a bit better, not at rock bottom like I was before, but I am finding that the prozac is really affecting my appetite so I'm strugglign to eat again. Hope it doesnt last too long!

Not twin related really, but here goes. Ds1 seems to be getting very rough after starting school. Yesterday he told dt2 he was going to 'hit him in the stomach', and jsut now he actually did it! He pulled one of them over in the playground. It seems that the play at the new school must be rather boisterous, he never acted like this with pre school. I'm wondering whether I should have a word with the teacher or if I'm overeacting. ds1 can't really stasnd up for himself and if the kids are going round punching each other it seems a bit much.

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Cheers LR, HM and ML
I will be 37 in 19 days and DH will be 36 until July, its not fair.

Oh Wow! Our thread is busying up again, must make soup........

Kelly, it sounds a bit like your DS1 is copying the behaviour he's learning at school. He might not feel confident enough to use it at school and therefore tries it out at home. My DD isn't physical like that but does get really cheeky after school. She talks to us all horribly sometimes. I explain that its fine to talk like that in the playground at school (I want her to be able to stand up for herself) but that it is unacceptable at home. Do you really like the teacher? If you do then a quiet word wouldn't go amiss even just to find out what is happening in the playground (i.e. is he playing with others or watching).

LG&T, found the PE stuff? Awful to lose.....is DH contactable in any shape or form?

HM, how about you just leave DT2 in the cot for the time being. It would let DT1 settle well into his routine (clever boy) and then maybe DT2 would feel left out???

Hi Dolly! Glad you could join us. Wow thats a journey if you forget something! Maybe we could all put our reins together so you can all bungee out of a morning .

Hi Charleymouse, glad all is well, great pics! Nipples too

Thank you CM i managed to do it!

Kelly mine were the same when they started school, the arsy attitude will come next....

Now i know what im doing i will post a better pic of the brood later. No laughing at the bump......

FG i made butternut squash soup today sooo lurvely. May have it for tea too!

Dh was very helpful on the phone..."um....dunno, but i didnt see them..." Grrrrrrr

Hi all, welcome to Dolly, that is a real pain about the council not moving you. Not a suprise though We were in a second floor flat with ds1 and that was hard enough.
Fg, thanks for the book recommendations. Will check it out thoroughly later on today.
Largegin, wow, such a young thing, my hat goes off to you or something like that.
Mars, as you say you have to believe its going to get easier, but god, its a tough road sometimes. Not a journey that I would swap for anything mind you.
Kelly - glad that you are feeling better, prozac can affect your appetite, but lots of side effects do settle down.
As for the school and bad behavior thing, its toughey, I mean they do learn that sort of thing, and then its heartbreaking when they seem to change over night.
Ds1 started telling every one to die, when he started nursery.
I too struggle with knowing when its worth raising things with schools, I don't want to come across as over anxious, but then again, I want to be able to talk about any concerns I might have.
Latest update, absalutely bloody awful nighta again. Ds1 has scarlet fever (diagnosed today), and had an unsettled night with high temps etc, and dt1 came through twice, and boy does he scream and shout when you put him back.
Ds1 can't go to nursery this week, and I am just dreading being cooped up with them all. Don't feel that I can look after ds1 as well as I would like as dts take up all of my time ARGH

Oh Overrun, wish I could make you a cuppa. Hell in a basket honey. How long for recovery? You'll be worn out.

I recommend doing everything differently:

trips to the duck pond and eat in the car
lunch or tea in the bath
playing in a different room (sometimes I shut all the doors and they play in the hall)
cloths and a tiny bowl of soapy water to 'wash' the floor
anything different

Oh overrun you poor thing you sound like you're having a really rotten time of it at the moment. I was going to pour my heart out about DT1 getting through 4 - yes FOUR - sets of clothes at nursery yesterday but it seems a bit trivial really! Anyway, she has been blackmailed into submission and is promised a trip to the hell that is the local soft play centre on thursday if she can keep the same clothes on all day today and tomorrow

When I picked them up yesterday, DT2 said 'but mummy you've left us for such a long time I don't think I like nursery anymore I just want cuddles' I felt great after that...

HM my 2 always want to follow each other, they hate to be apart or to think that the other is getting a better deal, so it might be worth persisting with the cot for one and making a really big deal of how well the other is doing in his bed so he wants to join in, don't envy you having to do it on your own with a baby too though

thanks for your response, there are some really good ideas there FG, will try them out, as I am all out of insipiration atm

I am going to get them out into the garden too, but it will have to be wellies as it rains every day here. Fed up of that as well, every day

Lapinrose, hope your soft play bribe works. Thanks for the sympathy. Unfortunately they are both as bad as each other, so can't really shame one into it.

I tell you I have come so close to smacking them. It seemed so tempting, a little tap when they got out of bed, short sharp shock treatment. I haven't though. Its one of the few things I feel really strongly about, so must resist........

You are not surprisingly at the end of your tether Overrun. Its raining here too (constantly) and the garden is a mud bath. Its just more mess isn't it. Hope you get a breakthrough soon.

Poor you overrun, i hate it when they are ill. Desperate measures needed when it's so bad, FG has great ideas.

Berate me if you will but mine get a smack, my mum always said smack them under 5 and you wont need to do it after that. It's true, short, sharp, shock works wonders. I still do the whole other stair and firm no etc...etc... a smack is a last resort.

Am knackered too ds is not sleeping well, he was 'playing' at 2am this morning, i look like a heroin addict with the circles under my eyes. Hope to get an early night, Ha!

hope the week passes quickly for you overrun, it sounds a nightmare. My dts were bad enough when the kids were ill for a couple of days so I can really sympathise. Perhaps you could make a batch of play doh and strap them in their high chairs with it? I think that is what I ended up doing.

Thanks again, I shouldn't really be on MN, but they are plonked in front of cbeebies again
Anyway, play doh and strapping them in, now there is another good idea. Its funny isn't it that nearly all ideas for toddlers involve mess, and when you are feeling blue sometimes you just can't face letting them make a mess, knowing that you will be clearing it up as usual.
Largeginandtonic, don't worry although I am adamant that I won't do it with mine, and am convinced its not the way to go, that doesn't extend to me having a problem with any one else doing it.
Part of me thinks, maybe it would work> But just know if I succombed, I would feel shit, and it would probably be in anger/desperation not as a chosen form of discipline iyswim

Oh i hate the mess, why is everything messy? Make tents out of sheets, at least that is not too scary to clean up. Sheets and clothes horse or chairs. Will try and think of other stuff, in the meantime have a vast gin and tonic, it's not called tonic for nothing ya know!!!

FG - I want to come and play at your house Think I might be stealing some of those ideas!

The twins keep crawling into the glass door betweem the lounge and dining room - its toughned glass so not going to break - do you think if I just let them they will learn that it hurts nad stop?

Overun - I think cbeebies is completley understandable - I know that is where mine would be!

hello.....
thanks for all your warm smiley welcomes!!

there are 2 lifts in my block.....(i feel like a fraud now!) but in my defence i didnt say there were no lifts..

mind you one of them shuts really quickly and 9 times out of 10 there is something unmentionable in there. (gets on the wheels and everything!) dirty b*stards!

i live in london - battersea...dont know if thats near anyone??

marslady...any luck with the reins?

thats all for now im trying to do dinner for my brood

dolly x

Aw shucks girls! Really, its not that much of a party here. I just have to get inventive when I'm sick of the mess and feel desperate. Just to see them happy doing something that doesn't involve plastic all over the house makes me happier. And Overrun, do not, do not, do NOT, DO NOT feel bad about CBeebies.

Mine watch a lot of it (and Nick Jr, and Nick Jr2, and CITV, and PlayhouseDisney and I draw the line at the porn channel ). It is educational, it is good for them to have calm, quiet time when they can just let the body rest and let the mind absorb. ESPECIALLY when they/you need it. MN is equally restorative. CBeebies is my favourite since they don't get brainwashed with adverts. Add carrots and a biscuit and you have a PARTEE! I hope life gets better soon.

Your last few posts have all sounded down if I'm being honest. Is there anything else you want to chuck in for discussion? (I sound so much like a doctor ).

Lots of love Dr F Grump xxx.

Aw shucks girls! Really, its not that much of a party here. I just have to get inventive when I'm sick of the mess and feel desperate. Just to see them happy doing something that doesn't involve plastic all over the house makes me happier. And Overrun, do not, do not, do NOT, DO NOT feel bad about CBeebies.

Mine watch a lot of it (and Nick Jr, and Nick Jr2, and CITV, and PlayhouseDisney and I draw the line at the porn channel ). It is educational, it is good for them to have calm, quiet time when they can just let the body rest and let the mind absorb. ESPECIALLY when they/you need it. MN is equally restorative. CBeebies is my favourite since they don't get brainwashed with adverts. Add carrots and a biscuit and you have a PARTEE! I hope life gets better soon.

Your last few posts have all sounded down if I'm being honest. Is there anything else you want to chuck in for discussion? (I sound so much like a doctor ).

Lots of love Dr F Grump xxx.

DrFGrump, I love that! It should be permanent.

battersea is nice, we used to live in croydon and I went to battersea park loads. I havent been since we moved, and I really miss it. I'd be up for coming over in the summer, I live in Ascot, so not too far out.

I was about to post that crazy soap (y'know the foamy stuff) is the best invention ever.

But then the kids all started fighting about it