D'ya ever wonder where all the other mums of multiples are?

[bubby64]

....or have we scared them all off with our inane chatter and multple moans!

I need Christmas pressie help everyone!! Mike has wanted a Hornby set for years, and, this year, we were going to get him one, along with a table and all the accessories with help from grandparents. I went to order the one wanted on line from Argos, and it is out of stock in our area, and also out of stock for delivery. There is some scattered aroung the country, but they dont know where! Can any of you lovely ladies check in your local areas, and if we find one I can see if Argos can transfer it to my local store.
The product number is 462/2628 a Hornby R193 Blue Rapier train.

Thanks ladies. I know he's struggling badly with the babies as he always starts throwing/pushing when I'm feeding one of them. I've got the travel cot out today to use for time out after he threw a bell while I was feeding Jen and then refused to say sorry/stay on the time out spot. Figured it will stop him running round/away. I managed to rip his coat yesterday trying to stop him running away when we were in a shop so he's also going back on reins.

Have spoken to my mum today. She's going to help me out with a couple of hours a week where she has the babies while Emily is at school and I just have James. I can take him to the library for story time, or maybe some of the sure start groups. Or just have time with him and I. He so desperately needs it.

Dh still seems to think its more than just a reaction to circumstance so I'm speaking to our hv anyway when I go to clinic on Monday, arrange for one of them to come round while dh is on a rest day and let him do all the talking. Figure if he's going to grumble then all i can do is put him in touch with the appropriate people.

My sister said to me that Emily was the same as he is. But then Emily didn't have to share anyone at the time. James arrived just 5 months before my sister's youngest so he's been sharing everyone and I can see how that could make him stroppy (I get narked when my sister hogs mum ) dad is being more supportive of late though. Thankfully James is into trains so can spend ages sitting on his lap watching clips of steam trains on the pc. Dad is glad to have another man about the house

Am happy on two notes though. Been selected for a couple of product tests. Looking forward to those coming. Also won a fan prize of something unknown on twitter for being one of the first 50 respondents. So I may be skint and tearing my hair out. But there is delight to be found in small packages.

Glad you are having a better day Soks, yes, a little "quality" time may help. Also, the men always seem to think something more is "wrong" with a child who is not behaving as perfectly as they think they should, I have had to direct my DH to several threads lately to prove the behaviour of my two, especially James, is actually not as bad as some other parents are contending with, even though it is driving us mad!!!

By the way, thanks to the power of MumsNet "chat" I have found the train set

Hi there I am a new mum of twin girls, and have been chatting on mumsnet about these early days of feeding and bein up nights,...basicallt struggling!
My midwife keeps saying I am doing brilliantly as both babies have put on weight within 10 days and are doing ereally well.
I dont know why I feel so "at sea" and worried.
I guess its the nights as they scare me when I cant settle either baby for hours.
Ive started to dread the nights and miss having time with my dh alone even though he helps me a lot, it just feels different, like the times not our own anymore.
Dont get me wrong I love the little uns to bits but I'm slightly overwhelmed is all!
xxx

Welcome spacegirl, we love to have new victims lovely Mums of 2/3/4 or more! But did you bring cake, its compulsory, nothing fancy just lemon drizzle or chocolate fudge..............oh and wine, red/white/rose, and er nuts, yes nuts...............but not just any nuts.......M&S nuts covered in Belgian milk chocolate. As you can see our needs are few. :o

psst..........Rubes.....you forgot to say hello to the newbie......

Welcome thegirlsassy (sorry, shortened your name, hope you don't mind!) The early days are hard, you feel as if all you are doing is feeding, changing or getting things ready to feed or change, with very little time for yourself, especially sleeping! Also, it is suddenly "full on babycare" and no more time for you as a couple. It does get better, and soon you will get both the babes and yourselves into a routine which does help. My midwife told me when the boys were little "routine, routine, routine, get one and try to stick with it to remain sane" as soon as I stopped the on demand feeding etc, and fed and cared for them on a schedual it did get easier. Others may have different advice, but this worked for both me and several friends I made with twins at the time. Here are some for you . Oh, and if there is a "twins/multiples club" near you, try to join, talking to mums who also have more than one does help, whatever people say, it's not the same as having two with a gap between them. Good luck and welcome agai to the boards, we do love new victims members!

Trips - Spacegirl is a much better nickname, well done!

Good advice Bubbs.........................routine is the key! Of course its hard work, you get very tired but omg what I wouldn`t give to have my three back to little babies..............it was the most adorable time. I agree it is very diff having 2/3 the same age, but its also 2/3 times as rewarding. Joining a group is good, always good to get out and about and mee new like minded friends. Just try not to worry that you are doing the right/wrong thing. Just do it as you feel is right, for you, them everyone..............and snatch time for you............here is something to get you on your way xx

Meant to say Bubbs we live 30mins drive from the Hornby shop and factory nr Margate. Its a great place to visit as they have a hands on showroom that was opened a few years ago by James May. My dh still has his Hornby trains that his Dad got for him many many many moons ago. He stored it all in a Hoover Box which in "those" days was made of wood! Glad you got it!

Morning ladies.
Hello Sassy - it does get better. Promise.

Well 'quality time' has just been 10 minutes of snuggles with my little monster . House at relative peace. Joshua stirring/wailing a little. But gentle snores everywhere else so been cuddled up. Not quite sure how he got out of the bedroom but can only assume I didn't close the gate properly

Aargh jsut typed a long post and lost it! Now I know how you feel, trips!

Morning girls.

Hello, sassy, glad you made it over! I do think you are doing fantastically, having twins first time round must be such a huge adjustment. Do whatever works for you and don't feel bad about it. Routines never worked for me (the babies refused to coorporate) but getting out and about helped a lot. Do you have anyone around to help and give you both a bit of a break?

Bubby, glad you found it! My dad is still mad about trains at approaching 60! He has a huge 00 set up and is now starting up a smaller gauge one. Freegle can be good for picking up bits, and aren't you in east anglia? There is a fab shop at snetterton on the old airfield.

Sokmonsta, glad you managed to make some time for James, some time for jsut the two of you sounds great, I'd ask him what he wants to do.

Morning girls xx

thanks for all the support
am currently bf one (having swapped them over) while jiggling the other in her chair
she is grzzly but not crying, is that a good sign? last night she wouldnt settle but wasnt completely crying either (we'd changed her, fed er, cuddledher etc)...she eventually settled herself and went fast asleep
that was difficult as I'd not let her grizzle before without going to her (she has a problem with thrashing even when fast asleep!)

thanks for the wine, welcome and the welcome!
How do I put these smileys into my msgs?
xxxx

I used to swaddle mine. I'm convinced that after being snuggly tight in the womb they felt insecure with all the space around them. You can do it wiht a muslin cloth so they don't overheat. They still loved it until they were nearly a year, when we would practically have to get a foot in there to do it tight enough!

Sometimes, if they are bit grizzly though, all they do want is a bit of peace and quiet to fall asleep rather than being disturbed.

Pmsl I remember angry man in a box

Plan of action today is tidy damn house (this am while home start is here) and this afternoon, pop babies and James down for a nap. Wake James but let babies sleep on a bit. Have decided I can get more James time if I put babies back in their routine rather than letting them fall asleep in their chairs. Then we can have some time before picking Emily up from school. There are some lovely Christmas makes I want to find time to do with them all so planning now. Perhaps I've just missed the routine and planning that I had to do for work. And now the meds are working properly, I'm seeing things much clearer too.

glad the meds are kicking in a bit.

Does James like 'helping' with the housework? Can cover two things at once then! Shay has always loved being let lose with a duster from a very early age.

did anyone find a sure start volunteer a help in the early days?
another twin mum (who I'm now going to go with to the Hungerford twins club - great suggestionn thanks :-)) suggested I ask the health visitor to refer me to one...any extra help for when hubby goes back to work would be great!
Thanks for all advice on routines and breast feeding too all
I have a routine, and gradually (well feeling slightly better each day I guess) feeling less frightened about this sometimes not going to plan...and not panicking too much...
Also, am mixed feeding, with today going quite well on bf front, even managed a tandem feed for a while..so feeling more confident about boobs learning to produce enough in time. Had a 3.5l post birth bleed at the hospital, so am sure it has affected how much milk has been produced in these early days.
sorry if i'm repeating self...! and thanks again all...I will check in again soon...just going to enjoy 30 mins of down time before next deadline ...oops I mean FEED!

ps. i do have lemon drizzle cake in cupboard and so pass you all a virtual slice

I had a home start volunteer, she was lovely! She helped me manage the twins for Jack's appointments. He has disabilities, so I was always traipsing back and forth with him. She was also a ear to listen to me, as I had recently moved to a new area and left my friends behind. I'd def go for it. I also used to go to Home Start toddler groups, which were great, there were play workers for the children, so the mums could relax a bit.

Did they not give you a transfusion for the blood loss? I lost a lot of blood, plus was pretty anaemic, so I had two transfusions which made me feel quite a bit better.

I had a home start volunteer, she was lovely! She helped me manage the twins for Jack's appointments. He has disabilities, so I was always traipsing back and forth with him. She was also a ear to listen to me, as I had recently moved to a new area and left my friends behind. I'd def go for it. I also used to go to Home Start toddler groups, which were great, there were play workers for the children, so the mums could relax a bit.

Did they not give you a transfusion for the blood loss? I lost a lot of blood, plus was pretty anaemic, so I had two transfusions which made me feel quite a bit better.