I'm dying to grass up the benefit cheats living next to me but..

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..dh won't let me as they have 3 kids and he feels its unfair on the kids

they are the laziest young couple I've ever met, she told me she can't afford to work as she is getting so much paid for her by claiming to be a single mum, but her partner (kids dad) work on the side so they have that money coming in too

they seem to spend all their money on takeaway deliveries, about 3 a week, but sod all on their kids who come chapping my door every day trying to get in to play with our toys, and probably for a feed as they get their takeaways about half nine at night

we both work here, I'm part time on minimum wage and she actually told me what she "clears" a month and with income support, job seekers and rent paid she's better off than us bith working

I'm heartily sick of seeing them swanning about, she always seems to have new clothes and their car is much better than ours, her mu mtakes the kids at weekends so they can go out and party, she told me they can afford to go out every Sat and they lie in bed all Sunday till the kids are delivered back to them

I'm so bitter, I'm sick of the injustice

should I go ahead and tell social services and let dh go mad or just let them live their dishonest life and shut up? I really don't know what to do

Shop them, these sort of people make me so angry.

Don't get me wrong, I hate the fact that our benefits system is abused - it's really bad for everyone who is really in need... BUT, when it comes to kids and what is best for them I would never encourage someone to 'grass' on someone else. Ultimately if kids are going to suffer then I think you have to be cautious. Anyway, there seems to be some sour grapes and jealousy in the OP and that's not a good reason to grass IMO.

what role model is that for children,that crime pays.ok to pull a fast one cause parents do it

beanieb - if the rest of us on benefits manage to survive on what we're entitled to without cheating the system there's no reason the kids should suffer if she also has to live on what she's entitled to.

I'm coping with 3 children - and I don't qualify for Housing Benefit - so have to pay that out of my other benefits

If I were in the OP's position, you'd better believe I'd have some sour grapes!

What's wrong with that being a motivation to grass up frauds?

People on min wage have to pay tax, too.

and I think you'll find the kids suffer more if it's left until she's wracked up even more false benefits claims - as the punishment (sorry mind gone blank for the proper word) will probably be more severe as the amount of fraudulently claimed money goes up.

What expat said.

OK - point taken, I just don't think I have it in me to report anyone. If it were murder or rape or domestic violence then I would certainly report them but I would feel funny about benefit fraud. particularly if I didn't know all the facts and if I was motivated by feelings of jealousy then I hope I would step back and consider the whole family when making my decision.

many people do their tin in on minimum wage,what for some chancer to rip the piss doing sweet FA?

Beanie. Its a great life for the kids when mum has to tell them to lie about dad living with them etc. Really good example.

To the OP, the only down side is could you look them in the face again. maybe you are doing them a favour.

Grass em up all you want but theres very little chance of anything happening to them.

I personally think that the benefit fraud hotline is just a front to make people think the government is doing something to combat benefit fraud.

hughjarssss - just because you don't see many people go to court over it doesn't mean that things haven't happened "behind closed doors" - benefits stopped/reduced etc

Sorry but it makes things happen. It will sort them out and make them live legit. OK no-one shouts their mouth off about it but it happens. FWIK the DSS makes them feel pretty bad ashamed about it.

I think that may be true for the minority FAQ but it was reported that over half the people reported for benefit fraud are not even invesitaged, let alone any further action being taken

i grassed someone who was here on a student visa (therefore not entitled to any benefits at all) and boasted in writing about how they got working and child tax credits and child benefit (despite having a huge amount in savings in their native country).

the government did indeed act on them.

We have a former neighbour who repeatedly offers us to share the benefits of her ill-gotten gains, which I find very confusing. On one hand, I'm touched by her generosity, and on the other, I'm outraged that she's so blatant at grabbing with both hands everything she can get, both over and under the table, and it's me, the tax-payer, who's getting ripped off, whilst working full-time and really struggling to get ahead. The more people who take dishonest advantage of the system will eventually make less available for those people who genuinely need help. Your civil responsibility is to the greater community, so go get 'em!

Benefit fraud costs the country billions per year that could be invested in the NHS or education, or taking those in low paid jobs out of tax. Shop 'em please.

Beanieb -it doesn't matter if you know all the facts or not; the Council or DWP will find out the facts and if everything's declared and above board there's no case to answer.

ok - I do understand. I guess I would say to the OP - if you think you can do it and not feel prolonged guilt then you should, and you shouldn't let your husband/oh tell you not to do it if you eally feel like it is your legal duty.

I think I would shop them. I'm on my own with 4 dc and I work where as next door don't have a working bone in their bodies have 4 children and live the life of riely off benefits - maybe wouldn't be so peeved if they weren't drilling at this time of night - thing is they will stay in bed all morning and surface afternoon evening as they always do.

Definately report them. It's not fair people who have no choice other than to claim benefit to be given a bad name by people who use the system.

If you reported them, you'd be acting out of jealousy and spite. Never a good reason to do anything.

Even if she is fiddling her benefits, it's a drop in the ocean compared to what those spivs in the City have been up to.

I wouldn't hesitate - shop 'em. Don't feel guilty about the children. It may even be to their benefit. They are hardly being brought up with a strong work ethic which I feel is essential if they are to impro e their lot when they are older.

Eam, a drop in the ocean. Then thats OK shall we all do it!

Eam, of course I meant Edam.