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BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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Spongebobette · 12/08/2026 10:36

New thread, welcome one and all

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ticktock19 · 03/10/2026 20:27

notgettinganyyounger · 03/10/2026 19:57

I'm hoping that the talented ladies post it on their FB page then it can be shared and other victims may come forward. The victim has now posted it on her own FB but comments are not public. Would love to know what people are saying.

@notgettinganyyounger if you click where the comments ‘icon’ would be on her post then you can read all the comments left by her friends. They’re all very supportive and very against FL

notgettinganyyounger · 03/10/2026 22:29

Ooh thanks I didn't know that!

notgettinganyyounger · 03/10/2026 22:36

Just read all the comments, so thank you for telling me how to see them. Glad she has so much support. I wish we could direct her to this thread.

YouOKHun · 04/10/2026 14:46

Salon’s new grift is some Korean beauty pyramid. So ZZ seems to be in the past. Or was there something in between the latest KB pyramid and ZZ (the ZZ related beauty MLM started by the doctor who isn’t a qualified dermatologist?). It’s difficult to keep up. I notice that since she started the KB grift she appears to have had her face polished which looks a bit bizarre tbh. The SEN recruitment charity endeavour seems to have been shelved.

notgettinganyyounger · 04/10/2026 16:55

The talented ladies now have the article on their FB page. Hopefully it will gain some traction there.

YouOKHun · 04/10/2026 19:08

Bruv is asking for positive reviews on Trustpilot from his friends. Some have obliged including Apprentice Bot. I am having to sit on my hands until he isn’t spending his whole time checking it but I’ll definitely be reviewing my interactions with him and his use of AI.

user1471446301 · 04/10/2026 19:30

YouOKHun · 04/10/2026 19:08

Bruv is asking for positive reviews on Trustpilot from his friends. Some have obliged including Apprentice Bot. I am having to sit on my hands until he isn’t spending his whole time checking it but I’ll definitely be reviewing my interactions with him and his use of AI.

If he's still in Miami he will be flying back soon and where he flew economy he won't have free wifi .... just saying, Edited to add, why ask friends to write reviews, surely all his clients could write one? If he had any clients of course.

Spongebobette · 04/10/2026 20:30

His clients are all women scammed by his sister

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Meem321 · 04/10/2026 21:47

YouOKHun · 02/10/2026 19:55

@user1471446301 so she has! Build Your Bulge Ltd. You can send a box of sweets with a message such as “sorry” or “thanks”. I’d be sending a box to Yawn with the message “Bye Bye”, but not a box of sweets, instead a box full of sour grapes and hard cheese.

Anyway, good luck to her, it’s a crowded market I imagine.

I think that she used to run a sweet shop years ago with husband before she started on FL

Spongebobette · 05/10/2026 09:49

Another one to share far and wide!!

the shamelessness of Bloodsucker exposed

I can’t get that poor woman standing in a shack with a baby strapped to her back out of my mind. I wonder what happened to her. Meanwhile Bloodsucker has millions in the bank

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/how-forever-livings-top-uk-fbo-coaches-recruits-to-make-deceptive-income-claims/?fbclid=IwdGRleAUwQ2dleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBwZG9mBWZkaWQWUPs6-VmmQ3MkTdxZMp1f08AZsHXp5nNydGMGYXBwX2lkCjY2Mjg1NjgzNzkAAR6IL5eaMbpq7epaQwZ01ruWSIxP9-N2TtZQrwFJgZTbubGXFh2ZfZEWmUvQSA_aem_HO_9m8iHSX2heepyyoLJkg

Are Forever Living UK and their top FBO STILL making deceptive income claims? - Talented Ladies Club

Posts to help working mums to achieve their work, freelance and business ambitions.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/how-forever-livings-top-uk-fbo-coaches-recruits-to-make-deceptive-income-claims/

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ItWasnaMeGuv · 05/10/2026 15:41

A devastatingly beautiful article Grin, I notice that on the screenshots in the article there are tiny pictures in top right corner of a person, hard to see, really.

definitelynotabot · 05/10/2026 15:52

ItWasnaMeGuv · 05/10/2026 15:41

A devastatingly beautiful article Grin, I notice that on the screenshots in the article there are tiny pictures in top right corner of a person, hard to see, really.

Indeed!
Great article.

definitelynotabot · 05/10/2026 15:55

Also, not sure if the TLC article picked up on this, those latter slides are branded with the group name headed up by Bloodsucker. She can't even blame head office, that is her own group name, her materials.

I hope something comes of this.

notgettinganyyounger · 05/10/2026 16:59

You can enlarge the training video and in top right hand corner is bloodsucker

notgettinganyyounger · 05/10/2026 17:00

Just click on TLC link to trying video on youtube

ticktock19 · 05/10/2026 19:11

thats another amazing article by those extremely talented ladies. Just listened to bloodsuckers YouTube prospecting speech 🙄and it’s ridiculous. Makes it all sound so simple.
The photos from the shindig at the head office last week are in the FL group and Mr and Mrs Boring were there. In one of the pics Scamolopos is hanging a natty lanyard round MrB’s neck - I wonder if his father in law knows that he’s seemingly successful within FL

BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
YouOKHun · 05/10/2026 19:35

@ticktock19 the FiL was in FLP and was a “partner” in the Borings’ FLP endeavours which I take to mean he and his wife sunk a lot of money into the bizniz, possibly at the point the high street shop was set up. Now they want what is clearly a large amount of money returned to them.

it doesn’t surprise me if attention is being paid to Mrs Boring as she is now the director of the company that will be receiving the FLP earnings he generates and the other person who will soon be getting recognition is his accountant friend, best man and director of other companies which may soon be receiving money Mr Boring generates. So if Choose Your Disaster collapses or he ends up bankrupt he should be able to hide his money from creditors (I imagine that’s the idea). I am surprised he’s got time to turn up at an FLP event as he must be busy muddying the waters and shifting downlines about at the moment or attending in person hearings v the in-laws to prevent their attempts to tip him into bankruptcy. FLP are fully aware of his shenanigans.

ticktock19 · 05/10/2026 19:47

Wow, thanks @YouOKHun what a complicated and tangled messy web that is. Absolutely shameful that they’re carrying on like that after doing her parents out of so much money. I really hope the in-laws get the better of MrB and can extract their cash back out with the courts help

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 06/10/2026 14:34

That is absolutely shocking @YouOKHun
Between the two companies he's got he looks like almost £1m in the red, so how on earth can he get away with another company that's simply in his wife's name?!

Fearless31 · 06/10/2026 17:36

I am the one who called headband out

YouOKHun · 06/10/2026 17:43

Yep agree @dickiedavisthunderthighs the new company actually his Mrs and his son as a director.

The best man (who was a director of the “two fat ladies” property company now dissolved) is a director of a number of software and training type companies with a bit of a network marketing feel, best man’s son is involved too. One company has the exact initials of the Boring company we normally discuss. If that’s not a company waiting in the wings to have its coffers filled up I’ll be amazed.

The BM been quietly in FLP for years and so it is strange that his name suddenly appeared in September as a level 2 qualifier. Mrs appears separately as a level 1 qualifier and Mr as a level 3 qualifier - I’ve never seen her appear on any list separately from him.

This indicates a good deal of manoeuvring in readiness for what will surely befall him. The most telling thing is that FLP MUST be fully aware and either standing back to allow him to try and hide money or actively helping their top bot by moving downlines and redirecting earnings. Taking his in-laws to court to try and stop their attempt to bankrupt him may be as much about creating a delay to make and embed changes in the background as it is about successfully halting the efforts of his in-laws altogether. FLP really can’t afford to have their top bot crash and burn so I am sure they will turn a blind eye at the very least.

Given that insolvency investigators will have seen it all before and have powers to examine Forever Living’s part in this I don’t see how he can come out of this smelling of roses however clever he thinks he is. With his son and Mrs B as his wingmen with their collect IQ roughly the same as my shoe size, he’s absolutely fucked.

YouOKHun · 06/10/2026 17:46

@Fearless31 well done! Real evidenced stories like your’s are the most valuable. We know all this goes on but what you have shared is most likely to stick with other FBOs and get them starting to question what they’re being told.

notgettinganyyounger · 06/10/2026 17:47

@Fearless31
Massive well done to you!!
Hopefully this will save a lot of people from getting involved. There are a few ladies in her downline who must be questioning things or wondering where you have gone?

notgettinganyyounger · 06/10/2026 17:48

@Fearless31 and Welcome aboard!

Spongebobette · 06/10/2026 18:07

@Fearless31

welcome ! We have been following your upline and others in Forever Living for a very long time

there are many stories of lies, exploitation and bullying by uplines

well bloody done for spotting the scam before you got in too deep!

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