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BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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Spongebobette · 12/08/2026 10:36

New thread, welcome one and all

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Spongebobette · 23/09/2026 12:02

He’s foul

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Crikeyalmighty · 23/09/2026 13:19

Justdancevance · 23/09/2026 10:33

I see Bruv recorded a couple having an argument on the plane in front of him and posted it online

He is such a nasty piece of work. They all are really. They think invading peoples privacy and posting for clicks is funny.

That’s outrageous - basically they are a bunch of unclassy opportunistic chavs ( and I hate that word but can’t think of any other more suitable) pretending to be something else - in fact many MLM people are .

user1471446301 · 23/09/2026 14:49

Justdancevance · 23/09/2026 10:33

I see Bruv recorded a couple having an argument on the plane in front of him and posted it online

He is such a nasty piece of work. They all are really. They think invading peoples privacy and posting for clicks is funny.

odious oik, if the passengers were really troublesome he would have been better flagging it with the cabin crew. I can see on his insta he'd never travel economy again oh boo hoo you tosspot. It looks like he's grifted a freebie trip anyway as a +1 with his 'bestie' as her social media guy who is speaking at Mastermind event

YouOKHun · 24/09/2026 00:05

@xenu1 that is a very encouraging update about Amway. I am very happy to see some of these schemes being held to account. Clearly it’s more affordable for Amway to continue with their not-a-pyramid-scheme and they haven’t felt the need to pull the plug like some we could mention.

while it’s fantastic news I wish it could be extended outside the US and perhaps this will have more of outcomes globally. Whereas with FLP I feel there is a doubling down outside the US in the behaviours that got them into trouble. I’m sure FLP isn’t doing well but I feel a step up in FLP’s bad behaviour and their top bots’ renewed efforts to recruit at any cost, as if the cost is clear to step things up in countries where there is no TiNA or FTC. I hope it will be different with Amway.

I can also add an Amway experience. In the 1980s my late Aunt married what Mumsnet calls a cocklodger, a man who fabricated a backstory, who had delusions of grandeur and no fixed career to pay for it, flitting from one thing to another in the hope of making big quantities of easy money - the perfect MLM CV.

He had a few friends cut out of the same cloth, flashy and flaky. One kept coming over from the States and was always in my Aunt’s house. Then around 1990 I think, I noticed lots of Amway products dotted around the house. My aunt was badgered into funding it and getting increasingly unhappy as it turned out. I knew nothing about MLM then but I do remember thinking it was all a bit culty.

Then one day a month or so later it was all gone seemingly overnight and it appeared her husband had seen the light. The friend of 30 years never spoke to either of them again. Lucky escape. I found out later that the Amway friend had made the mistake of turning up when my father was at my aunt’s house and he’d eviscerated the pair of them with the intention of killing off the Amway grift for the sake of my Aunt. What a haterrrr!

I sometimes forget about Amway but it’s clear just how prevalent it was if so many of us can add a story.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 24/09/2026 17:32

Once again Yawn looks very different when you see her on someone else's social media (Mrs Stickman's Insta stories)

ticktock19 · 24/09/2026 19:11

If MrsS is paying Yawn £200 a week then fair play to Yawn for finding someone as gullible as that 😂😂

BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
user1471446301 · 24/09/2026 20:52

OhMyGiddyAunt · 24/09/2026 17:32

Once again Yawn looks very different when you see her on someone else's social media (Mrs Stickman's Insta stories)

Yes indeed, if you didn't know you'd think Sticky was the trainer and not the other way round.

Justdancevance · 25/09/2026 04:48

Rictus was posting about being bullied and Yawn commiserated about being bullied out of FL and got a ❤️

Who is her up line that would be bullying her

OhMyGiddyAunt · 25/09/2026 06:39

Justdancevance · 25/09/2026 04:48

Rictus was posting about being bullied and Yawn commiserated about being bullied out of FL and got a ❤️

Who is her up line that would be bullying her

Do you mean Headband as I notice she's posted about bullying?

Justdancevance · 25/09/2026 07:15

Sorry headband, not rictus

Spongebobette · 25/09/2026 08:18

OhMyGiddyAunt · 25/09/2026 06:39

Do you mean Headband as I notice she's posted about bullying?

Yes and she got loads more engagement from that post than she normally does

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HotAsSatansBalls · 25/09/2026 09:17

OhMyGiddyAunt · 24/09/2026 17:32

Once again Yawn looks very different when you see her on someone else's social media (Mrs Stickman's Insta stories)

Oh dear! Mrs Stickman’s reel is almost on a par with Roomie’s unfortunate photos in Dallas. Looks like Yawn can’t afford the weight loss drugs any more. Her advertising posts are clearly photoshopped to hell, as we all suspected - she’s such a fibber!

YouOKHun · 25/09/2026 09:32

I see Headband says ‘people I thought supported me have shit on me from a great height’ which rather implies it’s FLP related doesn’t it? Unless parents at the school gate have turned on her about badgering them or publishing images of their children on FB.

I’m not sure who her upline is. It’s not 2Jags is it?

OhMyGiddyAunt · 25/09/2026 09:39

I'm sure Headband was "presenting" at a company event recently too.

Maybe this "bullying" will help her see clearer now .... maybe the penny will drop about not being paid for her time or mileage for such events

Spongebobette · 25/09/2026 10:33

YouOKHun · 25/09/2026 09:32

I see Headband says ‘people I thought supported me have shit on me from a great height’ which rather implies it’s FLP related doesn’t it? Unless parents at the school gate have turned on her about badgering them or publishing images of their children on FB.

I’m not sure who her upline is. It’s not 2Jags is it?

I wonder if it is FL related or not?

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Justdancevance · 25/09/2026 10:36

The fact that she loved Yawns comment makes me think it’s FL, especially as she confirmed it’s not her son, it’s adults and it’s her

Justdancevance · 25/09/2026 10:37

Yawns quote was ‘that’s why I left’ which headband ❤️

I’m waiting to see Ubers accounts.

user1471446301 · 25/09/2026 10:53

Spongebobette · 25/09/2026 10:33

I wonder if it is FL related or not?

if you check her FB stories, it looks more like a disgruntled bot or ex recruit of hers. Luckily Scamodopulous has her back and she will continue to make a difference. boo.

user1471446301 · 25/09/2026 11:18

user1471446301 · 25/09/2026 10:53

if you check her FB stories, it looks more like a disgruntled bot or ex recruit of hers. Luckily Scamodopulous has her back and she will continue to make a difference. boo.

I meant to add in her screen shots she hasn't included the link from the "bully" I would wager is the FTC's income claims and they are accusing her of selling an unachievable income and lifestyle.

orangehandles · 25/09/2026 11:33

Happyholidays78 · 22/09/2026 14:31

It's crazy isn't it? Look at me stood in front of a white range rover, I've made it! Absolute nonsense. The thing that really cheeses me off was the targeting of new mum's & making them feel guilty for going back to work & 'abandoning' their children. I knew of at least 6 people locally selling that Aloe nonsense & not one of them are doing it now & I'm pretty sure they're not millionaires.

I've never seen a white Range Rover in the wild, but if I ever do, I shall roll my eyes at it.😂

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 25/09/2026 12:18

Anyone who criticises is a bully remember?! She’s being called out of selling the dream, and I’m guessing her upline is so used to it happening to them that they’ve told her to wind it in.

YouOKHun · 25/09/2026 12:56

She is very #aggressivebusinessmum in the face of any question about what she says, it doesn’t even need to be a criticism. One of my FB burner accounts was banished with lots of aggressive PMs for politely disputing something she said. In fact it was one of the most aggressive responses I’ve ever got from a bot.

She knows she is lying, whoever is asking her how she can carry on selling the opportunity when they have given her so much evidence of the negatives isn’t the first person to highlight it. I find her aggressive “positivity” really jarring. She can’t really defend FLP so she resorts to wheeling out the victim narrative and labelling critics as trolls and bullies. She targets some very financially vulnerable people. She might be panicking if they’re an ex team member because they will have some evidence of her conduct and the realities of slogging away for Forever Living for her and for themselves.

Crikeyalmighty · 25/09/2026 13:04

YouOKHun · 25/09/2026 12:56

She is very #aggressivebusinessmum in the face of any question about what she says, it doesn’t even need to be a criticism. One of my FB burner accounts was banished with lots of aggressive PMs for politely disputing something she said. In fact it was one of the most aggressive responses I’ve ever got from a bot.

She knows she is lying, whoever is asking her how she can carry on selling the opportunity when they have given her so much evidence of the negatives isn’t the first person to highlight it. I find her aggressive “positivity” really jarring. She can’t really defend FLP so she resorts to wheeling out the victim narrative and labelling critics as trolls and bullies. She targets some very financially vulnerable people. She might be panicking if they’re an ex team member because they will have some evidence of her conduct and the realities of slogging away for Forever Living for her and for themselves.

I honestly don’t get these people, unless they are making a mint from it and I don’t believe many are ( if any these days) it all sounds like a lot of hard work and drama for not that much reward. Personally if they are making say £1200 a month from it I would prefer a 22 hours a week less stress minimum wage job -

YouOKHun · 25/09/2026 13:15

@OhMyGiddyAunt I also noticed the stark contrast between Yawn’s SM posts and the images of her when someone else is in control of the content. I don’t judge or care about anyone’s body but if she really was all about health, fitness, authenticity and honesty and she was really selling her skills as a coach or a PT rather than selling an image or shoring up her ego then the visual disparity wouldn’t exist.

Most people want to put their best photos on SM of course but if she is selling “transformation” using her head photoshopped onto someone else’s body as she did recently then it should be called out and her audience is inevitably going to spot the difference and question it.

YouOKHun · 25/09/2026 13:24

@Crikeyalmighty Headband puts up with the instability and the drama and negative feedback because FLP has convinced her that undefined “success” is just around the corner and any doubt or negativity must be banished or she will fail. Then they drip feed her with the odd certificate or horrible branded gift.

I would be absolutely amazed if she makes £1200 a month as income and certainly not consistently but I bet she never does anything as negative as totting up what it’s costing her to earn money as an FBO.