Starmer's parting shot is to give EU students a £30k discount of their uni fees.

[caringcarer]

This is a kick in the teeth to our own students. If he has money to discount off uni fees for students he should discount our own students. It's an outrage.

It’s an outrage that you don’t know what you are talking about OP @caringcarer and are spreading plebeian fake news.

What impact will this have on jobs? Students usually try to work part time during their studies and it’s been widely reported that students have been struggling to find work and then struggling even more after graduation.

If we want to attract more EU students, we need to have more jobs available for everyone.

He’s secured a good deal for both EU and UK students?

He’s secured a good deal for both EU and UK students?

Because the international fees are ridiculously expensive. UK universities are in trouble because there aren't enough students. Thanks to Brexit, we lost the majority of European students. It's not only affecting the universities but the economy as well.I came here under the EU rules to do my master's and PhD, paying the same fees as a UK student. Now, instead of paying £10,000 a year, I would have to pay £30,000, which is absurd.

They don’t get a loan they have to pay upfront

Unfortunately, regardless of what you study, in the UK you pay the same tuition fee for every course. In other countries, if you study medicine, you pay five or even ten times more than someone studying English or History.

In the UK, students studying subjects like English effectively subsidise more expensive courses such as engineering and medicine, which require millions of pounds' worth of equipment and technology.

It is not fair in my opinion. But there is no way anyone would want to be a doctor if they had to spend half a million on their degree.

Exactly!

But it’s a deal which looks equitable on paper only. In reality there is nothing like the demand UK to EU.

The answer to this question is No

Then we probably would get screwed.

No it’s not. We need international students to fund the unis. Without them the unis face financial collapse and since Brexit it has been even harder to get overseas students. By getting more international students here Starmer is attempting to protect British students’ fees from rising

Many universities are strapped for cash because huge numbers of international students have been put off by the astronomical fees and are no longer coming to study here.

Rather than having to use taxpayers' money to bail out institutions on the verge of bankruptcy, or putting up UK students' fees, the government have decided that the best option is to encourage those international students back again, by lowering their fees to an acceptable level.

What part of that simple plan is difficult for you to understand?

Should be a shot in the arm for the higher education sector which is a massive industry employing hundreds and thousands of people (far more than any manufacturing sector). You really, really don't want to see what happens to our already struggling city centres if half our universities go bankrupt due to numbers of foreign students falling off a cliff due to Brexit and new visa rules.

Because we have to (if / when we rejoin the EU) treat everyone the same.
You can't offer UK students something cheaper than EU students.

If he does this now it'll reduce the bill when they start calculating the move back to the EU.

How long before we get the Euro?

It cost more than £11090 to educate our students. Now there will be not only 65000 less students to subsidise our own students but the 65000 will also need subsidising. It will attract many more thousands of EU students than the 65000 we currently take. This less space for other overseas students who pay more or will squeeze out our own students. I don't know why you can't see the consequences of this stupid policy. KS just sucking up to UVDL.

What makes you think we are rejoining the EU? Until we rejoin if we ever do our own students should get a better deal.

In your opinion. Not everyone agrees with you.

Exactly my thoughts. So many parents struggle to send their DC to uni ATM.

Google says ATM there are 65k EU students studying in the UK.

So in a simplistic way of looking at this is either you have more EU students in your UK universities paying the same fees as domestic students, or you get fewer EU students coming and you get no fees and UK universities continue to struggle financially. Surely it's better to have more students overall paying the same fees?

But you could always study in your own country.

But how does that help UK universities?

Parents don’t have to pay fees.

You wouldn't have to pay £30k a year it would be more like £18k and you'd expect to pay more for a PhD