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BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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YouOKHun · 29/04/2026 02:15

A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

Why has Forever Living Products closed down its MLM business in the USA? - Talented Ladies Club

Why has MLM Forever Living Products shut down its USA MLM arm? Could the company be in trouble? We find out why.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/

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user1471446301 · 14/07/2026 10:27

This is an excellent, concise and informative article on predominately FL but includes other Direct Sellers with regards to failure to disclose information in their Income Disclosure Statements (IDS). It is well worth a read if you have the time. Bot's should pay attention to these elements, particularly to those below from the article but of course they won't as they are 'investing in their bizniss'. I may well tag the remaining bots I'm not blocked from so they can review it also, might make them think.

  • Additional fees or tickets for conventions or other training programs
  • Travel
  • Lodging
  • Food
  • Childcare
  • Packaging & shipping
  • Purchasing Product from other [distributors], and
  • Other business expenses.”

www.edgewortheconomics.com/insight-FTC-business-expenses

notgettinganyyounger · 14/07/2026 13:06

What is it with Rictus and her bloody teeth baring. All I see is someone asking "Do I have spinach in my teeth?"

It's fucking ridiculous

Spongebobette · 14/07/2026 13:33

When chimps bare their teeth it signals fear, anxiety or submission.

notgettinganyyounger · 14/07/2026 14:02

Ah yes you are probably right. She has to be living in a constant state of anxiety, that her lies will be found out. I'd probably be the same!

Spongebobette · 14/07/2026 15:13

user1471446301 · 14/07/2026 10:27

This is an excellent, concise and informative article on predominately FL but includes other Direct Sellers with regards to failure to disclose information in their Income Disclosure Statements (IDS). It is well worth a read if you have the time. Bot's should pay attention to these elements, particularly to those below from the article but of course they won't as they are 'investing in their bizniss'. I may well tag the remaining bots I'm not blocked from so they can review it also, might make them think.

  • Additional fees or tickets for conventions or other training programs
  • Travel
  • Lodging
  • Food
  • Childcare
  • Packaging & shipping
  • Purchasing Product from other [distributors], and
  • Other business expenses.”

www.edgewortheconomics.com/insight-FTC-business-expenses

This is excellent

not many bots will come across it or bother to read it if they do, sadly

YouOKHun · 14/07/2026 19:57

@user1471446301thats a great article. It is a damn shame that bots will never see it and won’t read it even if it’s put in front of them, as you say@Spongebobette.

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 14/07/2026 20:08

Techie’s awful AI doctored post has made me lose all sympathy for her.

Spongebobette · 14/07/2026 20:15

She HAS to try and live up to Yawn’s standards

user1471446301 · 14/07/2026 20:56

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 14/07/2026 20:08

Techie’s awful AI doctored post has made me lose all sympathy for her.

ah can't see it. She blocked me when I asked her to run away from Yawn and not risk her already established business, alienate future clients and her reputation, obviously didn't take my input on board.

YouOKHun · 14/07/2026 21:01

@dickiedavisthunderthighs yes complete fiction, going by the group shot taken on 22 June. I can’t believe that people are convinced by this pair and their mutant AI posts. It can’t just be Botwatchers who notice.

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Spongebobette · 14/07/2026 21:59

I don’t think anyone apart from botwatchers actually see their posts!!!

Justdancevance · 14/07/2026 22:07

Castles accounts are due soon, there should be millions in profits as she’s making so much sales 🤣🤣

Her comments about her kids, her posting vulnerable videos of them. I find her a horror.

Spongebobette · 15/07/2026 13:34

She absolutely is!

A case study in narcissism.

YouOKHun · 15/07/2026 15:55

Groundbreaking work on Dementia Huns!! Names changed to protect the guilty and one exploited Dementia patient.

Legendary neuroscientist Dr Ivor Nodegree is getting set up for today’s groundbreaking Dementia Trial with the incredible Fred 🙌

His daughter Janet is a Belief Coder and is feeling very hopeful for the outcome of his Belief Coding®️ session with our amazing Founder Apprentice Bot ⚡️

Janet describes how her Dad was once the life and soul of the party but now struggles to get out of bed. Fear and frustration have replaced his sense of fun and adventure…
He forgets everyday tasks and appointments and has lost all sense of time.

If Belief Coding®️ can help bring her Dad back she’ll be eternally grateful 💙

This work really is at the forefront of science and can change lives so we’ll keep you updated with the outcome 🙏

Later that day, another post …

77 years old, dementia for 3 year and the RAW DATA WAS LOOKING PHENOMENAL, and so far, created better results than the earlier 3 trials….

This is huge, and it means we can go to mass trials sooner, as we have been able prove the concept. Which is the body will create the right conditions to avoid further emotional pain, even if that means brain degeneration 🧠

So, there you have it. Dr Ivor Nodegree connects a possibly vulnerable man up to his special contraption and a vulnerable man is declared … well what? Is declared as having a nice day out? If his daughter had taken him out for a cup of tea and a chat could that possibly have had the same effect? No doubt his fully paid up belief coder daughter will be reporting transformation. But nothing is proved here about treating mood in relation the dementia. The only thing proved is that Apprentice Bot will stop at nothing to fleece people.

Bruv is in the background playing with the stationery at her new offices and putting the lies through AI to create more outlandish lies. Loads of people in the comments think this is legitimate and “science”, but it’s just a way to recruit more people to pay for various BC training courses, believing they’re doing something legitimate.

PS: one of Yawn’s Ambassadors who attended the kitchen based away day is a member of BC.

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Spongebobette · 15/07/2026 15:57

That’s so completely unethical and SHITTY

user1471446301 · 15/07/2026 16:44

YouOKHun · 15/07/2026 15:55

Groundbreaking work on Dementia Huns!! Names changed to protect the guilty and one exploited Dementia patient.

Legendary neuroscientist Dr Ivor Nodegree is getting set up for today’s groundbreaking Dementia Trial with the incredible Fred 🙌

His daughter Janet is a Belief Coder and is feeling very hopeful for the outcome of his Belief Coding®️ session with our amazing Founder Apprentice Bot ⚡️

Janet describes how her Dad was once the life and soul of the party but now struggles to get out of bed. Fear and frustration have replaced his sense of fun and adventure…
He forgets everyday tasks and appointments and has lost all sense of time.

If Belief Coding®️ can help bring her Dad back she’ll be eternally grateful 💙

This work really is at the forefront of science and can change lives so we’ll keep you updated with the outcome 🙏

Later that day, another post …

77 years old, dementia for 3 year and the RAW DATA WAS LOOKING PHENOMENAL, and so far, created better results than the earlier 3 trials….

This is huge, and it means we can go to mass trials sooner, as we have been able prove the concept. Which is the body will create the right conditions to avoid further emotional pain, even if that means brain degeneration 🧠

So, there you have it. Dr Ivor Nodegree connects a possibly vulnerable man up to his special contraption and a vulnerable man is declared … well what? Is declared as having a nice day out? If his daughter had taken him out for a cup of tea and a chat could that possibly have had the same effect? No doubt his fully paid up belief coder daughter will be reporting transformation. But nothing is proved here about treating mood in relation the dementia. The only thing proved is that Apprentice Bot will stop at nothing to fleece people.

Bruv is in the background playing with the stationery at her new offices and putting the lies through AI to create more outlandish lies. Loads of people in the comments think this is legitimate and “science”, but it’s just a way to recruit more people to pay for various BC training courses, believing they’re doing something legitimate.

PS: one of Yawn’s Ambassadors who attended the kitchen based away day is a member of BC.

utter charlatan lowest of the low. Hey Bruv why didn't you ask her to belief code your sisters cancer away and while you are at it what about both Mini Turrets? Their additional needs could also be waved away with the phenomenal raw data and a flick of Mr Nodegrees imaginary graduation scroll. After all it's only mind over matter isn't it. What a predatory disgusting bunch they are, horrible, horrible.

user1471446301 · 15/07/2026 17:16

Back on 19/5 Uber had an open house / recruitment unwellness event (can be seen on FB). One of the attendees indicated the with tag name beginning with X was suckered into a c9, on the X persons FB she extols the virtues of said cleanse, Uber comments "You look amazing - can clearly see you have lost more than a few lbs when I saw you!!!!!! I have a holiday coming up!" and X responds "I’ll send you the info if you like". Such an ethical business woman our Uber drumming up pretend interest for a product she sold in the first place.

Spongebobette · 15/07/2026 17:44

That’s a trick I’ve seen them use before 🙄🙄

user1471446301 · 16/07/2026 11:18

Rictus is back on the presents again, Summer of surprises. Poor mini Rictus being chucked gifts for every and any occasion she will never be satisfied in the long term and will make for a spoilt and dissatisfied teen / adult. I wonder what drives Rictus's "guilt gifting"? I would have thought that BOT life gave her the recognition, validation and attention she needed, (plus 30K a month) to satisfy any gaping holes in her life, obviously not.

And all these gifts will have be shoved in the garage alternate weekends whilst her bedroom is out of bounds as an Airbnb, bizarre.

Spongebobette · 16/07/2026 12:03

It’s very peculiar - wrapping up things ‘she’d have bought anyway’ and turning them into ‘presents’

I wonder if perhaps non-stop presents is what turned Castle into the person she is, constantly needing to treat herself/ redecorate etc

Rictus had better prepare herself to live in a caravan in her daughter’s garden when she grows up

user1471446301 · 16/07/2026 12:39

Spongebobette · 16/07/2026 12:03

It’s very peculiar - wrapping up things ‘she’d have bought anyway’ and turning them into ‘presents’

I wonder if perhaps non-stop presents is what turned Castle into the person she is, constantly needing to treat herself/ redecorate etc

Rictus had better prepare herself to live in a caravan in her daughter’s garden when she grows up

yes I think you are right re castle. At the time I remember the lodge was also listed as an Airbnb option too, poor parents. Maybe mini Rictus will also charge her parents. There does seem a recurring theme with these Bots, driven by falling or non exsisting income. Uber the same with her airbnb.

Justdancevance · 16/07/2026 13:13

Castles parents took the kids away in their old caravan so Castle could stay in her parent’s air conditioned mobile home in her garden.

They kindly left the decorating for her dad to continue with when he got back from looking after her kids for the weekend

user1471446301 · 16/07/2026 19:49

I don't have a dog but normally people that do have have like a grill divider to keep them separate and safe. Surely it's dangerous to travel with an unrestrained house horse on the loose in the back of your car, if she breaks suddenly it will be catastrophic for them both.

Ladiva1971 · 17/07/2026 00:03

Rictus bot is so dumb going on about annual leave. Didn't she work in a school? So I guess she would have more annual leave than us mere mortals? If I am wrong please correct me 😉

hourglass2 · 17/07/2026 00:31

Spongebobette · 15/07/2026 17:44

That’s a trick I’ve seen them use before 🙄🙄

Uber seems to think it worked well 12 years ago so it will now, except it won't, most people have wised up to this nonsense