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BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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YouOKHun · 29/04/2026 02:15

A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

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https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/

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YouOKHun · 25/05/2026 21:04

@OhMyGiddyAunt yet today on Insta stories she is telling people they can earn a fantastic income as a BuildADebt Ambassador. If I create a business tomorrow and put £1m on my goal board that doesn’t mean I, or anyone else can earn £1m. Someone needs to get Yawn to do that calculation where she recruits just 5 Ambassadors and then those five recruit 5 BuildADebt Ambassadors each, and then those 25 recruit 5 Ambassadors each, and so on, then get her to let us know when she runs out of the world’s population to recruit. See if she can see the flaw in her business model. Then again, I think her first five Ambassador recruits have already disappeared.

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 25/05/2026 21:09

Techie’s posted something about ‘training’ over half term which is clearly a.written by Yawn and b.a thinly disguised ambassador recruitment scheme.

Spongebobette · 26/05/2026 05:26

So…. They are running a training session DURING HALF TERM for women who are trying to juggle work and childcare??

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 26/05/2026 10:07

Spongebobette · 26/05/2026 05:26

So…. They are running a training session DURING HALF TERM for women who are trying to juggle work and childcare??

Ha, I didn’t even twig that!! I imagine it will be at a really useful time such as 2.30, or just as they’re putting the kids to bed.
Techie had another C&P fail this morning with the title ‘Tomorrow’s Post’

ticktock19 · 26/05/2026 10:32

I know it’s already been mentioned but do we think Yawn meant a 🎻 or instead Voilà

BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
YouOKHun · 26/05/2026 12:42

While I’ll certainly be playing something much smaller than a viola next time Yawn looks sad and tells us yet another toxic group is attacking her good character.

As for Techie making C&P errors, I imagine she has got her work cut out trying to earn a living and run Yawn’s hobby at the same time while Yawn tits about building shacks in the garden and scheduling training at times to ensure no one is watching.

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HotAsSatansBalls · 26/05/2026 13:26

There are lots of jokes about viola players being hard of thinking … 😉

Spongebobette · 26/05/2026 14:02

Techie needs to resist AI improvements on her photos unless she intends to delete her whole history. It’s jarring

YouOKHun · 26/05/2026 17:28

Talking of AI, Fierce was posting every few days up until 20th April when she posted an AI picture of a garden, had very few comments and some comments hidden for possibly being offensive (according to FB) then one post on 1st May with very little interaction, comments turned off. I think her posts might have had a bit of unwanted attention since the YouTube witch with the big following had a go at her.

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user1471446301 · 26/05/2026 18:04

YouOKHun · 26/05/2026 17:28

Talking of AI, Fierce was posting every few days up until 20th April when she posted an AI picture of a garden, had very few comments and some comments hidden for possibly being offensive (according to FB) then one post on 1st May with very little interaction, comments turned off. I think her posts might have had a bit of unwanted attention since the YouTube witch with the big following had a go at her.

Found another one re Fierce! It's long, the live chat replay comments are golden and this young women again has the full measure of this Witchy Grifter. It's a combo of Fierce's training videos and it's just utter unbelievable drivel you can fast forward to get the jist but it's very interesting and reassuring that she is getting discovered, outed and published on youtube (again!) for all to see if they search her name, brilliant!

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Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueu8tMIpfgY

Spongebobette · 26/05/2026 20:05

ticktock19 · 26/05/2026 10:32

I know it’s already been mentioned but do we think Yawn meant a 🎻 or instead Voilà

I’m sure this looked great after the rainstorms that swept the midlands this evening.

YouOKHun · 26/05/2026 20:34

@user1471446301 Alakazam, Fierce is selling a scam!

It’s good to see people seeing straight through her. Can anyone really be paying her for this garbage?

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Spongebobette · 26/05/2026 21:07

Her photos are all doctored and her text is written by AI
There is nothing authentic or trustworthy about her and it’s absolutely obvious to anyone except a complete idiot

user1471446301 · 26/05/2026 21:08

YouOKHun · 26/05/2026 20:34

@user1471446301 Alakazam, Fierce is selling a scam!

It’s good to see people seeing straight through her. Can anyone really be paying her for this garbage?

Realised I put jist instead of gist oh dear shades of bot spelling.

YouOKHun · 26/05/2026 22:30

Castle says she was reported to the ASA for lying about her amazing income which she had naturally underplayed on line. Anyway, she submitted all the evidence and the ASA said, ‘OK, don’t worry about it’.

She is only aware of the ASA because Bruv has been pulled into Apprentice Bot’s lies. This is a fictional account to bat off some less than positive story that is probably in the air among the usually trusting audience. Perhaps the more vocal victims of Apprentice and Bruv are spoiling things?

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YouOKHun · 26/05/2026 22:55

And here is Castle’s professional looking spreadsheet showing her earnings for all you doubters out there!

BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
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Justdancevance · 27/05/2026 00:15

notgettinganyyounger · 11/05/2026 17:47

So all the ex FM huns who jumped to Livegood, and then onto vantage copy trading are being named and shamed on ' It's the Fizz watchdog' fb page. About time these absolute scammers were exposed.

The castles are a horrible bunch.

I’m guessing Castle has managed to successfully deflect any responsibility for her ex partner.

I’m sure the ASA must have their ears chewed off with her waffling on.

it will be interesting to see her accounts as she’s making big income claims.

user1471446301 · 27/05/2026 10:15

YouOKHun · 26/05/2026 22:55

And here is Castle’s professional looking spreadsheet showing her earnings for all you doubters out there!

Can't see her name on the ASA website (can bruv's though!) if someone has raised a complaint then a reference number would have been issued. Time to risk my burner and pose the question, will she pull up the portcullis and block me or offer an explanation? below is my comments to her I've even used Bruv's reference number!

When a report is made to the Advertising Standards Agency you should have been supplied with a Complaint reference number for example A25-1297374 . If you link your own reference number this should dissuade any further queries or issues with your income claims.

Luckily their skepticism has given you an advantage to display your last 2 years sales figures.
Fortunately in the UK all incorporated companies (including private and public entities) are
legally required to submit their annual accounts to Companies House.
These documents are part of the public domain and can be searched, downloaded, and viewed at no cost.
Searching your name on Companies House should have given them the information they need.

user1471446301 · 27/05/2026 10:20

user1471446301 · 27/05/2026 10:15

Can't see her name on the ASA website (can bruv's though!) if someone has raised a complaint then a reference number would have been issued. Time to risk my burner and pose the question, will she pull up the portcullis and block me or offer an explanation? below is my comments to her I've even used Bruv's reference number!

When a report is made to the Advertising Standards Agency you should have been supplied with a Complaint reference number for example A25-1297374 . If you link your own reference number this should dissuade any further queries or issues with your income claims.

Luckily their skepticism has given you an advantage to display your last 2 years sales figures.
Fortunately in the UK all incorporated companies (including private and public entities) are
legally required to submit their annual accounts to Companies House.
These documents are part of the public domain and can be searched, downloaded, and viewed at no cost.
Searching your name on Companies House should have given them the information they need.

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edited my post to exclude the link to her company accounts as realised that was outing. you can see the full version on her facebook before she probs deletes and blocks.

Spongebobette · 27/05/2026 13:36

I’d look if I wasn’t blocked!!

YouOKHun · 27/05/2026 13:58

I can’t see your comment so I think it was quickly zapped. There is another comment there which is apparently supportive of Castle but mentions that anyone can go to the CH website and check by company name or the director’s name. I expect that will be quietly removed as well which would be telling as it’s supportive sounding and on the face of it there is no need to delete it. There is no need to delete your factual post either @user1471446301. She won’t want people to start looking for the seven figure sum at CH or starting digging around on the ASA website.

One the subject of Bruv and B Coding, Apprentice Bot is trying to reignite recruitment and there is a countdown to “something big” in a few days time which is straight out of the MLM playbook. She is back to claiming BC is evidence based and science backed and says BC is “PubMed indexed” which is meaningless in terms of a mark of quality or legitimacy. She is now telling her bots that BC is aiming for accreditation with the International Coaching Federation and allowing the bots to believe that the coaching accreditation will allow them to “work in the NHS” as if it’s some kind of clinical qualification. She mentions other CPD and accreditations so I wonder if Castle has been involved in that?

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Spongebobette · 27/05/2026 16:04

Spongebobette · 27/05/2026 13:36

I’d look if I wasn’t blocked!!

Btw I think it’s Bruv who monitors his and his sister’s social media and deletes and blocks

YouOKHun · 27/05/2026 16:45

@Spongebobette I think you’re right about that. That’s probably got a lot to do with the ASA post. When I type “Castle scam” into Google I get loads of posts warning others about her being scammed. To the unaware it looks like she has been an innocent victim of scams and of attacks on her good name and is now a crusader for the little people.

I think there could be something brewing which means putting out the ASA FB post will mean that searching “Castle ASA” will show her FB post (for now at least). If Bruv gets asked about the upheld complaint against him he can say “it happens all the time, it’s just haters. It’s the same thing that happened to my sister. It was a hater false reporting Belief Coding when I made an “innocent mistake” with AI when reporting depression recovery rates”. It sounds like they are building up their defences.

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 28/05/2026 11:58

Oh this is fabulous!

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