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Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

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Crystalovertherainbow · 01/02/2026 20:52

Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

OP posts:
scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 17:57

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 17:47

If you aren't depressed when you start your UC claim, you'll be depressed after six months on it. It really isn't the cushy deal people keep claiming that it is.

It absolutely is not. My last few work coaches have been brilliant. But one of the first ones put me forward for a sanction because I was late for an appointment by twelve minutes. It was completely my fault. I suffer from insomnia and I slept through the alarm but he was positively gleeful at the fact - and I wasn't sanctioned in the end.

He asked me if I had an excuse and I was honest and he said. You're getting put forward for a sanction. I was in tears. It was horrible

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 17:59

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 17:27

My teen did maths tutoring as his part time job in sixth form. Was part of a company so he got paid just above NMW. Friends who did one to ones got paid £20 an hour

That's fine. But speaking as someone who has two BA degrees and two post grads. I'm personally not sure that I am at the standard to tutor people. Not just that. Some of the sites where you sign up to tutor are complete rip offs. Please stop telling people it's so easy to get work. Because it's not for a lot of people

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 02/02/2026 18:02

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 17:57

It absolutely is not. My last few work coaches have been brilliant. But one of the first ones put me forward for a sanction because I was late for an appointment by twelve minutes. It was completely my fault. I suffer from insomnia and I slept through the alarm but he was positively gleeful at the fact - and I wasn't sanctioned in the end.

He asked me if I had an excuse and I was honest and he said. You're getting put forward for a sanction. I was in tears. It was horrible

My last job coach was delighted to tell me she'd forward my details to the case manager for a sanction because I hadn't met my job search criteria for months. I didn't have any commitments because I was LCW!

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 18:06

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 02/02/2026 18:02

My last job coach was delighted to tell me she'd forward my details to the case manager for a sanction because I hadn't met my job search criteria for months. I didn't have any commitments because I was LCW!

He was the only one that was nasty to be fair. I was also being stalked at the time so I was living off my nerves as it was but I'll never forget the glee at reporting me for a sanction. I asked for a change of work coach after that

Bromptotoo · 02/02/2026 18:10

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 17:24

Some dwp work coaches also claim Uc. That's on record.

No surprise if they've got kids and pay rent in a high cost area.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 18:32

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 17:27

My teen did maths tutoring as his part time job in sixth form. Was part of a company so he got paid just above NMW. Friends who did one to ones got paid £20 an hour

So the company took care of the DBS checks and insurance?

I'm not entirely sure I'd want to pay to have a teen with GCSEs tutor children, but hey, if there's a market for it, then good for him.

This didn't exist when I was a kid, or at least not where I was.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 18:34

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 18:06

He was the only one that was nasty to be fair. I was also being stalked at the time so I was living off my nerves as it was but I'll never forget the glee at reporting me for a sanction. I asked for a change of work coach after that

Sanctions regime + buses that don't always turn up = utter terror

JenniferBooth · 02/02/2026 18:39

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 18:34

Sanctions regime + buses that don't always turn up = utter terror

They are gaslighting fuckers too.
Back in 2005 i was signing on and had a job interview in another town at 1pm. I thought i would get the 11am bus Plenty of time as its a 40 min bus ride.
11 am bus no show 11.30 bus no show. 12pm bus.....no show Now the bus stop then was DIRECTLY OPPOSITE the JC Three of them had been standing looking directly at me for an hour and yet i was told i had missed the bus. They had clearly seen me waiting for a bus that didnt show, How the fuck can you miss a bus that didnt turn up. After their shoulder shrugging and gaslighting i ran down to the train station and managed to get a train but ended up being 20 mins late. And before anyone bleats Well why didnt you get a train in the first place.....the bus was cheaper and i was on JSA. And i was at the bus stop in plenty of time.
For those at the JC to tell me id missed the bus when they were looking straight at me and could clearly see it didnt show is Gaslighting 101.

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 18:54

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 17:59

That's fine. But speaking as someone who has two BA degrees and two post grads. I'm personally not sure that I am at the standard to tutor people. Not just that. Some of the sites where you sign up to tutor are complete rip offs. Please stop telling people it's so easy to get work. Because it's not for a lot of people

It's not all that difficult. Some sites are reputable, people can go and check.

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 18:56

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 18:54

It's not all that difficult. Some sites are reputable, people can go and check.

That was not my point. What qualifications does your son have for tutoring? I give up. Don't respond to me again

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 19:01

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 18:32

So the company took care of the DBS checks and insurance?

I'm not entirely sure I'd want to pay to have a teen with GCSEs tutor children, but hey, if there's a market for it, then good for him.

This didn't exist when I was a kid, or at least not where I was.

A grammar school teen (with a 9 in maths) tutoring primary school kids in maths.

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 19:04

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 18:56

That was not my point. What qualifications does your son have for tutoring? I give up. Don't respond to me again

He was in sixth form. He had his GCSEs. He applied, the company accepted and he would do a couple hours every week.

A girl he knew would do one to one tutoring via contacts and advertising in the local area

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 19:09

Jiwdf · 02/02/2026 17:33

What's the point of living in these areas then if there's no WiFi and signal? How do you get anything done?

What laptop can't handle outlook, excel, word and PowerPoint?

Again, you don't understand the difference between wifi and the internet connection that comes into the home. My mum has wifi, but it's attached to ADSL so the internet connection is crap.

What's the point of living in these areas

Because that's where she could afford to buy. She didn't work from home, so for her it didn't matter. For her neighbours each side, it's where the council allocated them to. A lot of people get very little choice about where to live.

What laptop can't handle outlook, excel, word and PowerPoint?

Chromebooks; anything so ancient that it's only good for running Linux; anything too old to take the latest Windows.

arethereanyleftatall · 02/02/2026 19:10

Dd1, 17, is also a tutor. A brilliant job for her, loads of kids do it where I live. No, no one asks her for a dbs, insurance or any of the other barriers people have made up. it’s just normal conversation with another mum.
‘Sylvia is struggling with her algebra, she’s in year 10’
‘Cathy can help if you’d like, she got a 9 at gcse, loves algebra’
‘that would be awesome.’
details exchanged and sorted.
two weeks later
‘I hear Cathy is helping Sylvia with her maths. Would she have time to help Bob?’

gamerchick · 02/02/2026 19:11

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 19:09

Again, you don't understand the difference between wifi and the internet connection that comes into the home. My mum has wifi, but it's attached to ADSL so the internet connection is crap.

What's the point of living in these areas

Because that's where she could afford to buy. She didn't work from home, so for her it didn't matter. For her neighbours each side, it's where the council allocated them to. A lot of people get very little choice about where to live.

What laptop can't handle outlook, excel, word and PowerPoint?

Chromebooks; anything so ancient that it's only good for running Linux; anything too old to take the latest Windows.

Edited

I think that poster is on a wind up.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 19:13

arethereanyleftatall · 02/02/2026 19:10

Dd1, 17, is also a tutor. A brilliant job for her, loads of kids do it where I live. No, no one asks her for a dbs, insurance or any of the other barriers people have made up. it’s just normal conversation with another mum.
‘Sylvia is struggling with her algebra, she’s in year 10’
‘Cathy can help if you’d like, she got a 9 at gcse, loves algebra’
‘that would be awesome.’
details exchanged and sorted.
two weeks later
‘I hear Cathy is helping Sylvia with her maths. Would she have time to help Bob?’

No, no one asks her for a dbs, insurance or any of the other barriers people have made up.

Anyone makes an accusation against your DD, she's up shit creek without a paddle.

These "made up" barriers exist for school teachers and college lecturers for a reason.

The other thing is that the would-be tutor's mum has to talk to the other kids' mums. I lived on the outskirts of a working-class northern town. But my parents came from elsewhere. They had the wrong accents, they didn't go to school with the other mums, they don't know anyone. And that's before recognising that autism is inherited and so my parents were as useless at social skills as I am. Yes, both of them. Mum was excluded at the primary school gate. So when would she be asked "hey, I hear your DD is good at maths, would she be interested in tutoring my DS?" Plus, many of those mums couldn't have afforded tutors anyway.

arethereanyleftatall · 02/02/2026 19:15

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/02/2026 19:13

No, no one asks her for a dbs, insurance or any of the other barriers people have made up.

Anyone makes an accusation against your DD, she's up shit creek without a paddle.

These "made up" barriers exist for school teachers and college lecturers for a reason.

The other thing is that the would-be tutor's mum has to talk to the other kids' mums. I lived on the outskirts of a working-class northern town. But my parents came from elsewhere. They had the wrong accents, they didn't go to school with the other mums, they don't know anyone. And that's before recognising that autism is inherited and so my parents were as useless at social skills as I am. Yes, both of them. Mum was excluded at the primary school gate. So when would she be asked "hey, I hear your DD is good at maths, would she be interested in tutoring my DS?" Plus, many of those mums couldn't have afforded tutors anyway.

Edited

This is just catastrophising on such a grand scale. It’s a couple of kids working at a kitchen table whilst the mum, who is a normal person, potters in and out.

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 19:18

arethereanyleftatall · 02/02/2026 19:15

This is just catastrophising on such a grand scale. It’s a couple of kids working at a kitchen table whilst the mum, who is a normal person, potters in and out.

Not qualified to be tutors on any level though. No one with a Gcse should be tutoring primarily school kids. My mum did it for free with friends kids and she was an experienced teacher.

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 19:19

arethereanyleftatall · 02/02/2026 19:15

This is just catastrophising on such a grand scale. It’s a couple of kids working at a kitchen table whilst the mum, who is a normal person, potters in and out.

You don't know that the mum is pottering about. Made up rubbish. Most tutoring is done online these days

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 19:21

Helping someone with their homework is not tutoring and I would cringe if someone took money off a young child just because their own child had a Gcse

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 19:23

Stop trying to normalise teens having part time jobs that they aren't qualified to do. A Gcse does not qualify someone to be a tutor. On any level

Vivi0 · 02/02/2026 19:24

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 19:23

Stop trying to normalise teens having part time jobs that they aren't qualified to do. A Gcse does not qualify someone to be a tutor. On any level

Helping someone with their homework is not tutoring and I would cringe if someone took money off a young child just because their own child had a Gcse

Yes, much better for the young person to claim UC and take money off the state instead.

No one is taking money off a young child. I’m assuming the parent is paying, no?

Why don’t you stop normalising teenagers claiming benefits. A young person being resourceful like this is a good thing and to be encouraged.

All of your posts are just barrier after barrier. It’s honestly depressing.

arethereanyleftatall · 02/02/2026 19:26

😂dd isn’t actually forcing them to pay her for tutoring @scottishgirl69. They are choosing to. They can choose her at £20 an hour or a proper tutor at £40+ an hour. Their choice.
teenagers working part time is absolutely normal in my world. I get that it’s not in yours, you’ve said it umpteen times.

FairKoala · 02/02/2026 19:26

Needmorelego · 02/02/2026 17:56

A lot of the time 18 year olds won't actually have a clue what jobs exist out there. At 18 I wouldn't have known that security for football matches was a thing.
One problem we have is zero or very poor career advice services before the age of 18.
Another problem is that often the job centre won't help with advice or training unless the person is actually signed up for benefits.
If you just walk in off the street to try to find out jobs/training or whatever they won't help you.

I think schools should offer professional careers advice.

Exh went to a private boarding school. The school has a reputation for producing people who become top of what ever career they do.
Some might say it was an old boys network but I actually think it was down to the school bringing in an outside company each year for the 13/14 year olds.
This company over a week set multiple tests and questionnaires. Each person who was brought in interviewed each pupil and at the end of the week they looked at everyone’s report and came up with a career area they should pursue. They also commented on where each pupils strengths lay outside of the career choice.

It obviously cost a lot to do this but when you think about the cost to the NHS when someone is depressed and the bad life choices of doing a job they hate and how much time and money is wasted when the persons doesn’t fulfil their potential and spends more and more time between jobs you wonder if it starts to look cheap

exh is the perfect example of someone not following the career chosen by the experts. His parents who were sent the results decided they knew better.
He was funnelled into a career that he hated. He struggled with it all and definitely knocked years off his life and cost the NHS a fortune
It was only when in-laws downsized did the original letter come to light.
By that time it was too late to do anything about a change of career.
What exh should have been told to pursue is something everyone who knows him thinks that was what he should have done instead of the misery he endured doing something stifling and boring

arethereanyleftatall · 02/02/2026 19:28

scottishgirl69 · 02/02/2026 19:19

You don't know that the mum is pottering about. Made up rubbish. Most tutoring is done online these days

Well I do, cos I stayed last time and enjoyed a glass of wine with her. I was supposed to drop off and pick up but got chatting. Dd is also capable of telling me.

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