Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

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welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

Yawn has posted on Instagram about why she left Forever........ Inspired by the Beckham saga).

That’s an interesting post

trying to convince herself

@HellooooJackie I’m not convinced she looks that happy and over the events of summer 2024 in that post. Perhaps it’s the bad light but she looks a bit puffy eyed. I’m sure she wants to give a different impression but to me she comes across as still ruminating over it - why, coming up for two years after the event does she STILL need to tell us she has triumphed?

Saying she was shafted by her uplines is as close as she has come to naming names. I still think she did other things to fall out of favour with HQ that gave her uplines the perfect opportunity to turn on her. The comparison to VB having son problems but with the silver lining of ending up with a number 1 as a result and therefore triumphing in the face of adversity is not a good comparison for Yawn to draw, as I think jury is out about the behaviour that was the catalyst for the Beckham shitstorm, much the same as in Yawn’s case. And I’m sure VB would rather it hadn’t happened despite the number 1. And likewise Yawn wishes the ousting from FLP hadn’t happened despite the triumph of … er …

Everything she posts is trying to convince both herself and the ex-Forever 'friends' that she is doing loads better without them......... I don't think she was successful then, and I'm sure she's not successful now. I feel terrible typing that - but I do think it's true.

Who was her upline - Uber?

Yawns only saving grace is that her children were not pimped out for content

Uber has shown her child naked in the sink, discussed her daughter’s eating disorder for content. Even when they were distressed about being filmed

Castle and her family have used the kids for content, again despite viable distress

How does she think she was shafted by her uplines? I am trying to think how that is possible?
It would not be in their interests to get rid of her.
Unless she was bringing the business into disrepute (if such a thing were possible!).

I’m not sure Yawn’s children were shielded from her FLP content altogether but at some point they disappeared from view. I got the feeling that at some point they decided on a news blackout rather than Yawn. Yawn had to resort to exploiting her DS’s girlfriend. Uber has shared some other photos on her public SM of her youngest which were possibly the worst examples I’ve seen of bit offspring images.

@HellooooJackie wasn’t Yawn’s upline the former wife of her fitness partner’s husband? Not sure of the chain of command.

In other news in that horrible rag The ☀️ on 14 Jan there was an article in the Fabulous section about a woman who won a lot of money on Postcode Lottery which she credits to having done Belief Coding about money blocks and she hopes to help others using BC. That sounds evidence based doesn’t it? Trust that rag to promote such an obvious scam.

I reckon her immediate upline (pink hair) and Uber moved Yawn’s ex-BFF directly under Uber. That was Yawn’s only senior downline, so she’d have pretty much lost her income overnight.

Spotted Mr Boring Name in VIP stage line up at today’s (un)successful day on FL stories

Yawn ex bff poorly apparently. So obviously has to be FaceTimed to everyone.
what a fucking shit company does that to a sick person?

Yawn's ex-BFF has posted about missing the Unsuccessful Day.

I wonder how many times in the last 4-6 weeks she's wished she got sick pay

Getting harassed when sick, sounds very caring. If she’s been forced to take her foot off the pedal for a few weeks she is probably feeling the pressure from Uber.

Is ex BFF still claiming she earned more than enough to put her DC through private school? She was certainly stretching the truth about FLP’s ability to improve menopause symptoms in her post in early December.

I think her ex-DH put her children through private school. They may have had bursaries or sports scholarships. Both were talented rugby players, my DS played against the youngest. I don’t think her ex was ever a believer and ran his own company throughout. I suspect that FL was one of the reasons they split up. After the initial success I think that he saw the light pretty rapidly.

@Crwysmam yes, you’re right. I think at one point she gave the game away that they had a scholarship. They could also have had a bursary if the school looked at the finances of a super soaring flappy pigeon and decided they needed to be generous! Her feed was full of this (no credit given ti her ex):

I’m sure she has talked about a sports scholarship before. DS plays against their school, although he’s a lot younger so didn’t overlap with them, and the school does like a talented rugby player.

Feel like I've been grey rocked - post on AIBU
sorry I don’t know how to link.
Basically Op won an award at a Sunday awards ceremony. No one at the event congratulated her and her family were not impressed. The award was for most improved and she’d been able to work out her position in the running.
My first thought was workplace politics but the she claims the award was the major award for the event. I’ve never come across a most improved award being the foremost award.
Unless of course you are in network marketing.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5481472-feel-like-ive-been-grey-rocked

Here you go!

MrsBoringName has posted on fb about Unsuccessful Day and that 2025 was a year from hell. She doesn't say why it was a year from hell, though..... I wonder how she will spin it?

Headband bot appears to have had a challenging weekend as well… wonder what’s up with her?

Yes, re scholarship, and very good on him, very well deserved. But she's a liar saying she paid for as a single mother. I can't find it now but the Warick School also factored a scholarship for 1 or 2 of the boys and MIL paid the first 2 years school fees for the elder one (ive got a video of her saying this).

Details for scholarship for 6th form and uni abroad, below from her Global page.

"my eldest has now finished his exams and has been offered a full sports scholarship at THE TOP INDEPENDENT school - Millxxx. he has learnt by watching me that if you work hard for something you will 100% achieve it

Son about to board a flight to USA for the next 4 years on a rugby scholarship at a top university to do a degree in business management.

Both Children and EX Husband and now doing very well away from MLM it looks like and by watching and being paraded on stage they turned left when boarding and are well away from it.

It's in her stories set off to success day was sick went home, missed an 'insane day' the end. (saved you the watch!)

@user1471446301 I thought Millxxx was one of the schools. They have been well known for 100% sports scholarships plus paying expenses on top. It looks like sporting talent and other financial resources have set the course for her children, nothing to do with Forever Living. The only contribution FLP would have made is if there was a bursary element meaning that parents’ finances were examined. The school would have been able to see she earned very little so that might have helped swing it.

He was at Wellxxx as was in the same year as my friend's son.

yes I agree the bursary findings would have been interesting, low erratic income add single mother into the mix I'm sure that held some weight (I'm certainly not taking away from the sons talent at all).

Below quote from the school themselves
" Scholarships may be supplemented with means-tested bursaries, to uphold our powerful principle of diversity that is the Millxxx Mix, making sure that those children who would best benefit from a world-class Millxxx education and outstanding opportunities are able to do so, regardless of the financial circumstances of their parents.

Look at this though what a greedy pair of parents, I hope they paid her back and interest during this period, poor grandma.
"the only issue was we couldn't afford the fees so my mother in-law kindly helped by taking a mortgage break"

I am suspicious too that many may have ‘bought’ what looks like success ( very expensive vanity product) I work in entertainment and it was very common years ago to ‘hype’ a single up the charts by buying your own stock - this then had the result of getting you air play, top of the pops etc - and hence then a bit more ‘natural’ success followed - thing is with this though is they are deceiving many very ordinary women who don’t have the wherewithal to spend thousands out initially and want to actually make money