Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

[Spongebobette]

New Fred

welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

@dickiedavisthunderthighs could not agree more. What kind of person buys so many presents and then shows off as if it is impressive or a sign of “success”? It’s truly revolting. What an appalling message to send a child too. And another child of a bot having their privacy used to promote a scam.

@user1471446301 yes, it looks like there is some careful editing of the “lifestyle” to obscure the reality. Thinking again about the revolting display of presents, I wonder if all those presents were wrapped up cushions and old newspapers all laid out for the photos then put away so they could continue with their real FLP funded Christmas - pulling last year’s crackers and giving each other Bayliss & HardLife shower gel from the local service station?

Ha ha - you just don’t on that income!!

if teachers aren’t smarter than believing this bullshit no wonder education standards are getting iffy in some places!

Bayliss & Hardlife 😂I wonder if Yawn has now switched to Imperial Pleather?

I’m sure Yawn has a good scrub with Carbollocks soap, but whatever she does she just can’t get rid of the stain of post MLM failure and the whiff of bullshit. Or perhaps she uses something traditional such as a soap bar from the Bronnley range called Old Lavender & Bot Piss? Whatever soap accompaniment she uses she will be showering in cold water to save money as times are hard behind the scenes. Perhaps she showers by standing under one of the many thatch leaks?

@MrsDilligaf I can no longer access the ForeverLying page think I must been blocked :( If you have time please can you keep an eye out to see if my post was deleted please, thank you. I'm not going to let this blatant bollocks go.

I can't see any comment like that, was it in the recent Unsuccessful Day post? Must have been deleted.

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I notice that bots are paying £75 (save £25! ) for a ‘bundle ticket’ to Unsuccess Day

they get rinsed every which way don’t they

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I notice that bots are paying £75 (save £25! ) for a ‘bundle ticket’ to Unsuccess Day

they get rinsed every which way don’t they

By deleting my response the problem won't go away quite the opposite.

FL will continue to let EXAHT stand on stage and represent FL (with her daughter watching...poor kid) and they know full well she is totally non compliant with her income claims and a lying charlatan by not being featured on any leader boards earning 30K a month.

I'm not having it I've got time today. The wrath of Botpotty will be released! TINA & ASA will be contacted. I googled FL UK Compliance and it came up with a name for Head of Compliance & Regulatory so I will see what he has to say.

Good for you!

@user1471446301 what I can’t fathom is I get that yawn and castle etc are trying to attract the not necessarily high end business types , those young mums looking at making a bit extra with dog walking, child minding, making a few artsy crafty things ( and that’s not meant in a derogatory way by the way, I’ve been there many years ago) - what I don’t get is why professionals with good salary’s and good pensions would be enticed one bit, unless they’ve been fired and can’t work in their profession . Surely logic tells them that a few porkies are being told here - and the only way castle and yawn are making any money is by enticing suckers like them - so unless you are going to go down that ‘coaching route’ and entice a load of other suckers there are few self employed flexible options to making that kind of income that don’t involve years and years of heavy groundwork or risking ‘a lot of money’ ( trading etc)

Gullible and Greedy I guess? Although in fairness to EXAHT she may have been nabbed during maternity leave venerable postpartum and sold a way to quit a stressful job and match or increase her salary in the nooks and crannies and acted in desperation or some woo woo manifestation shit and "grabbed it with both hands" as they are always saying.

If she has been in 7 years people like Uber (her upline I think) where still riding on the heady wave of 2016 / 2017 and looked like they were making money. Now though EXAHT perpetuates this myth by lying to other mothers, teachers or anyone who will listen and throws out 30K a month to reel them in and I'm having non of it!

Is Thermomix an MLM?

It certainly is @pontivex

Thermomix is such a weird thing. It, of course, claims it’s direct selling but there is recruitment in the model. It’s all a bit smoke and mirrors and it is very culty with the main company, Vorwerk being rather impenetrable and opaque. A local Headteacher’s wife got involved in it a few years ago and did most of her recruitment among the parent body (not great).

The machine seems to be good at whatever it does but is very expensive. The other thing to note is there are no territories so potentially you could be competing with all your neighbours to sell Theromix to each other.

AI says this about the process: To get a Thermomix for “free” the primary method is to become a Vorwerk Thermomix Advisor and join their 'earn your Thermomix' program, where you sell a certain number (typically 4-6) of machines within a set period (like 90-120 days) to earn yours at no cost, often after paying a small refundable deposit to start. Other strategies include participating in giveaways or potentially earning credits through hosting demos, though the Advisor program is the most structured path to a free unit.

Given the machines are £1-2k each and you’ve got to plunder your social circle (and be sure no one else is plundering the same group which they will be if they decide they want a “free” Thermomix too once you’ve recruited them!) and sell c£7.5k worth of machines with all the associated costs of doing that, it just seems like a massive piece of distraction theft.

Or am I missing something?

@YouOKHunsuper useful thanks. I’ve just never got my head around the model as the machine actually seems useful and they didn’t seem to be pushed to recruit but I see the model is focused on pricing it high and getting other people to pay for it by signing up so slightly different but still the same old 🔺 stuff.
Asking as someone has posted on our small village facebook page advertising a demo night with free food in the community hall. I’ve commented it’s a 🔺which still remains up there but she’s also asking people to sign up for tickets (to manage demand) so I was thinking of being dastardly and booking the lot up and no one turns up. Or just whinging to the community hall about inappropriate bookings. Or maybe all of it…

Yawn’s last 2 insta posts have spelling errors

sloppy, and does not give confidence in her professionalism

she’s also claiming to be on 3 different courses at the moment and will pass on her knowledge ( if you pay her 🙄)

@Spongebobette I’m still waiting for the benefit of her expertise in sign language and Spanish.

Didn’t she also sign up for nutrition at some point.

I was driving through Yawnsville recently, it was dark and rainy and it reminded me of her evening ladies cycling club. Another pursuit she dropped very quickly. I used to see her regularly out shopping after the shops had closed, taking photos for her SM content. She hasn’t done a lot of aspirational posts of late, no hair salon shoots or nail bar content. Just the odd cheap coffee shop shoot. There are some really lovely, and expensive eateries in Yawnsville but she seems to avoid them.

Although she does frequent one of my favourite cafes, probably because it’s very popular, and reasonably priced, with the local private school sahms. I can imagine her hawking her old “opportunities” there. I would imagine she steers clear of the other end of town since it is Ubers stalking ground.

I remember, during the height of FL, there were a couple of families at school who did well in FL, for a short time, sadly the children were moved to state school soon after. The parents integrated themselves into the PA and there followed a period of them trying recruit via a number of fund raising events. Unfortunately for them the existing parents were established business owners and professionals so they came up against a brick wall. It was their behaviour that first drew my attention, mainly because they were such unpleasant people, so obviously fake and trying so hard.

Help needed on this thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/uk/5476180-self-employed-travel-consultant?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

Disappeared now :-( But it was there for quite a while.

I’ve just seen this post in the forever living private group…on clicking through to the recognition book there’s a page entitled VIP 26 - all our longstanding faves are on there - ‘month’ man, uber, bloodsucker, exbff, 2 jags, the couple who have the surname of paper in a book and then right at the bottom on the left hand side is Mr Boring Name. So he’s / they are still a part of FL but no mention of him in any league tables anywhere else. Preacher bot is also mentioned but at 5cc’s level 3 or 4.
Also, look at the prize page 😬

Those bags are hideous! That level 1 shoulder bag is the princely sum of £6…https://www.mojopromotions.co.uk/retro_shoulder_bag1

Have they announced the qualification levels yet. I’d love over to get a yoga mat cheque