Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

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New Fred

welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

Headband has posted photos and videos of her child and a lot of other people's children on her very public profile. Is she incredibly thick?

yes.

Thick, selfish and dangerous. A quick scroll back to when he had a school branded sweatshirt identifies the school and obviously those pictured with him.

Even if the school gave permission for the parents to take photos / videos, then these recordings are for private use only. No one should have their childs image on facebook or the internet without their consent and certainly not on her very open unprivate facebook where she doesn't give a toss about safeguarding, not only for her son but others.

What is it with bots that don't think anything applies to them. #thickselfishdangerousbusinessmum

@user1471446301 I did exactly the same, scrolled to September for the inevitable beginning of term photo with the school in question in full view. I’d put money on none of the parents giving permission for their children to be used for engagement on a very public social media page of one of the other parents (who may have already blotted her copybook by harassing them about joining Forever Living). Headband is definitely thick but she can’t be unaware as this issue has been pointed out to her more than once. So the conclusion has to be that she just doesn’t care what or who is compromised if it might deliver some interest in FLP.

I think Forever Living should take responsibility for delivering some information about safeguarding and privacy to their reps who are not independent and who operate as they do due to the pressure they’re under and the type of instruction they get about engagement at all costs. This would be far more useful to an audience of bots rather than watching Bloodsucker or Uber lying to them about the opportunity. MLM has got to be the only “industry” where conversations about privacy, data, safeguarding never happen. As far as I’m concerned there is a direct line between a child safety concern and Scamaloupolis appearing in the private FBO group and pushing, pushing, pushing the bots to up their recruiting at any cost.

It infuriates me

I agree with everything you say. FL won't care though, they even do those awful creepy slowmo videos for the bots parading their families 2Jags, Castle, Yawn, Uber all had one and some up and coming bots. Funnily enough though at all events Scamaloupolis is with his wife but doesn't wheel his children out, he's a canny scammy, but not with other peoples children.

Scam alert - I nearly lost £20,000
I nearly got caught out today and it was VERY convincing.
Professional.
Urgent.
Designed to make you panic.
But something stopped me.
That quiet inner voice.
That gut feeling that said pause.

Uber claiming she was nearly scammed today by scammers claiming to be part of her bank. She says she is sharing to warn others who she probably considers to be a bit stupid and not as smart as she is, yet she doesn’t bother to share any details which would actually help someone. The conclusion is that it’s a tall tale designed to help herself. It ticks a number of MLM engagement boxes:
Lets the followers know she has lots of money in her account.
Lets her followers know that she is too clever to be scammed yet she is vulnerable to it as she is such a fine upstanding citizen.
Gets a bit of sympathy out of followers (re her DF).
Tells the followers she is doing them a favour by warning them and gives the impression she is on their side.

“If my post helps one person it will be worth it”, she says. The one person she is thinking of is herself no doubt.

Perhaps Uber should forward the scam details to castle who is looking for a new bizniz partner 🤣.

Yawn’s so skint she’s ‘crafting’ presents this year, aka taking a few old Homesense purchases and sticking some twigs in them. The absolute state of that roof as well.

@dickiedavisthunderthighs. There is more thatch in that wreath than on roof above it! That roof looks much worse than it did, it’s absolutely at the end of its life and I’m sure the rest of the roof is too.

Perhaps Yawn has seen how Speccy’s fortunes have lifted since she started making her wreaths and arrangements and she is hoping to add that to her many biznizes? Let’s hope it produces £30k by the spring for a new roof. Her building insurers will require a thatch inspection every few years and I doubt they will reinsure it in its present state.

Looks like Mr Yawn will be getting some twigs for Christmas then, at least he can burn them to keep himself warm for a few minutes.

I ran the photo of the thatch through AI and the results are not great...

Based on the visual evidence in the photograph, the thatched roof appears to be in weathered condition showing significant signs of age.
While it is difficult to give a definitive structural assessment without a physical probe, here are the key indicators visible in the image:

1. Significant Moss Growth

The most obvious sign of age is the heavy accumulation of moss (the green patches) on the slope above the door. The Issue: While moss looks picturesque, it acts like a sponge. It holds moisture against the thatch, which prevents it from drying out and accelerates the rotting process of the straw or reed beneath. Implication: This usually suggests the roof has not been "dressed down" or cleaned in quite some time.

1. The Netting

The entire visible area is covered in hexagonal wire netting (chicken wire). The Good: The netting appears intact, which is crucial for stopping birds and vermin from pulling out the straw for nesting. The Bad: The netting is sitting quite high off the thatch in places (pushed up by the moss), and debris has gathered underneath the mesh. On a newer roof, the netting usually sits tighter and flatter against the material.

1. Decomposition and Color

The thatch material itself looks dark and grey/brown rather than the brighter honey/gold tones of newer material. This discoloration is natural over time, but combined with the moss, it indicates the material is degrading. There also appears to be some "slumping" or unevenness in the surface texture.

Summary
The roof is likely nearing the end of its current lifecycle or, at the very least, is in urgent need of maintenance. It doesn't necessarily look like it is leaking yet (as the structure still seems dense), but the moss needs to be removed to stop further rot.
If this is your property, a Master Thatcher would likely recommend either a heavy cleaning/de-mossing and re-ridging, or potentially a re-thatch depending on how deep the rot goes.

That porch bit looks really bad, sagging down and rotten I hope for their sakes the roof is in better condidtion.

They've been there nearly 10 years now, I wonder how old the roof was then?

For those new questioning in their heads why we are bothered by Yawns rough thatch. It purely because she was involved in MLM for many years and part of her sales pitch was to show/tell how rich and debt free she was to lure the victims in. It was all a blatant lie and the lie continues.

I don't need to con people with my business to get customers. I just offer a good product at the right price.

Back in 2019 according to her reno thatch page she said they had an insurance expert out and great news it's got a good 40+ years life in it. Looking at the photo of it back in 2019 it certainly wasn't a brand new roof, it looks quite mossy even then and she's never mentioned about repairs or sending Mr Yawn up the ladder to titivate it. I think she has either been mislead by the insurance man or a liar, my bets on a liar.

Topical

lol!!

🤣 just imagine how bad the outcome could have been for baby Jesus had the Three Wise Men stayed at home and sent the One Wise Man from Young Living instead, given his record of infanticide.

On the subject of Essentially snake oil, one reason why Doterra is lying low is this ongoing issue which they’ve failed to deal with despite reports about it by major media worldwide in early 2024. I know it’s hard to believe that DoTerra could possibly turn a blind eye to the exploitation of women … https://dignityandrights.org/2025/08/doterra-fails-to-remedy-sex-trafficking-human-rights-abuses-in-frankincense-gathering-communities/

Snake Oil Scum, targeting women from one end of the supply chain to the other.

I know we've covered the Gloop Movement before (seen in a shopping centre near you), they've just released new dates and locations as always my flabber was ghasted when you have to pay £40 for the privilege to peddle and I always assumed that included the branded yellow top, but no! spun as a dress code they will sting you for another £20. So £60 to stand in the wind, rain and cold to look like pillock like we saw last time. It's so just bizarre and cruel to see people sign into it.

@user1471446301 yep, the bot absorbs every single cost of promoting FLP to largely interested passersby. I bet it’s soul destroying and they probably get more negative feedback than casual interest. Some of it is likely to be quite aggressive feedback generated Ben the prices of that gloop. It would be soul destroying even if you were being paid by the hour. How on earth does FLP manage to fool any bot with this Bowel Movement grift? They must be telling them some serious lies about the benefits of taking part.

There’s nothing that screams ‘professional business coach and expert social media advisor who knows how to create a successful online presence’ than someone holding up a picture saying

‘Fuck them bitches’

Bowel Movement lol especially from the gloop.

The Solihull venue they've booked provide 3.5m x 1.5m kiosk to merchandise their products at a reduced rate of £375 + VAT per week (Mon to Sun). The movement has spaces for 12 people per day (2 shifts), So £450 with VAT, 12 x £40 bots so FL are 30 quid up on cost for the pitch on day 1. All they then do is throw in the gloop shots so they are quids in. For the other 6 days if all 12 bots sign up every day they are just shy of making 3K for the week and thats just on one location. They are more like Fleeced Business Owners.

Good grief! Surely it should read “Fuck those bitches”?