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Botwatch 89!!!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM.

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Spongebobette · 10/07/2025 10:38

New thread! Welcome to anyone who wants to be better informed about the dodgy practices of multi level marketing companies

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Spongebobette · 14/09/2025 14:51

PieonaBarm · 14/09/2025 13:47

Facebook, 21 hours ago, titled "Where's HouseHorse"

Ah am blocked

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Spongebobette · 15/09/2025 13:37

I wonder if I could make any money using AI to create lists (ways to make money online! Social media do’s and don’ts!) and turn them into booklets and get people to pay me for them?

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DeliaDeetz · 15/09/2025 16:16

Yawn has posted twice today on FB about her guide to Social Media Success which apparently will get you "seen, shared and saved".
Post from 8 hours ago - likes and comments from Yawn, Techie and the business pages with 1 share (probably Yawn).
Post from 5 hours ago - 149 views and 1 like....by Yawn!
Not sure if that's classed as irony or just laughable!! 😂

Spongebobette · 15/09/2025 16:21

I’ve just used copilot to come up with something for work - took a few minutes of refining the prompts and it’s now a useful resource that I’ll use tomorrow

I suggest anyone who is paying Yawn for spending 5 mins on ChatGPT, using a template to turn it into a booklet and adding the word ‘Premium’ is an idiot

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Spongebobette · 15/09/2025 16:22

DeliaDeetz · 15/09/2025 16:16

Yawn has posted twice today on FB about her guide to Social Media Success which apparently will get you "seen, shared and saved".
Post from 8 hours ago - likes and comments from Yawn, Techie and the business pages with 1 share (probably Yawn).
Post from 5 hours ago - 149 views and 1 like....by Yawn!
Not sure if that's classed as irony or just laughable!! 😂

Perhaps social media strategies that worked in 2022 just don’t cut it in 2025? 😂

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YouOKHun · 15/09/2025 17:04

According to the Gov website Techie and Yawn have actually applied to trade mark Build a Bear 😂. I honestly think they could have got away with not bothering …

Spongebobette · 15/09/2025 17:41

YouOKHun · 15/09/2025 17:04

According to the Gov website Techie and Yawn have actually applied to trade mark Build a Bear 😂. I honestly think they could have got away with not bothering …

Makes them feel like proper grown up business women!

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YouOKHun · 15/09/2025 18:07

It’s cost them c.£200. I wonder if they’ve managed to recoup that cost?

Spongebobette · 15/09/2025 18:17

Ha ha haaaaaa

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YouOKHun · 16/09/2025 22:09

Only 45 Unlucky Girls now. And the only likes on posts about the new endeavour are the ones she has given herself. No input from the other people allegedly involved apart from Techie. Flogging a dead horse.

Crikeyalmighty · 16/09/2025 22:56

I see castle is still banging on about the scam - pretty sure those responding aren’t aware they were in business together - can’t quite believe as a serious bizniss person she had no idea what was going on - surely the bank account would be a giveaway if no one was being paid ( apart from the scammer it would seem) ??

Justdancevance · 16/09/2025 23:47

Castle now says she invested 25,000. So the other 225,000 was fantasy money. Castle doesn’t explicitly explain what she’s going to do differently, so it doesn’t happen again.

Sugarplum48 · 17/09/2025 07:57

Techie giving accolades to yawn 🤣🤣🤣 where are the accolades from the "clients" ??

notgettinganyyounger · 17/09/2025 08:12

Laughing away to myself. I've been on these threads since the start (different user names) and for YEARS have been waiting, wishing for castle/yawn etc to fail publicly. And finally castle has been scammed herself. Yawn has sod all interest in her build a bear/unlucky girl bollocks. It feels so good to sit with a cuppa and watch it all falling apart. Bravo 👏

Crikeyalmighty · 17/09/2025 11:15

@Justdancevance I’m dying to post ‘didn’t you notice this lack of paying anyone on the company business account- as you were a director’ but I know she will just delete it and is probably fingers poised 24/7 at moment for anyone picking up on this

Crikeyalmighty · 17/09/2025 11:34

@Sugarplum48 and no disrespect meant to those taking part as I do know it’s tough out there, but you aren’t exactly going to get many serious people interested when the only people you have speaking are other ’ coaches’ or dog walkers.

notgettinganyyounger · 17/09/2025 12:12

@crikeyalmighty I dare you to do it, then quick screenshot before it goes poof!

Crikeyalmighty · 17/09/2025 12:30

Ha ha- pretty sure I will be blocked after that - I’m giving it a few more days and then going in!!

Justdancevance · 17/09/2025 13:26

Anyone who paid an invoice from a company with ‘global xxxxx’ was paying castle and her scam buddy,

anyone paying ‘kicks xxxxx’ was just paying the scam person

As a co director, castle bears some responsibility and all those who paid her money are entitled to expect that some due diligence beyond how many feathers she could find in her garden. Her students need to understand that is not how professionals run businesses and her lack of professionalism means those corporate gigs won’t materialise.

Who paid for castles new fancy Land Rover. Her parents bought a cheap second hand Toyota and caravan so they’re not screaming money to burn.

Crikeyalmighty · 17/09/2025 15:09

@Justdancevance exactly - who were these people paying ??

Spongebobette · 17/09/2025 16:11

The Castle parents seem a lot more sensible with money but have a blind spot where their daughter (and son) are concerned

she absolutely HAS to have big treats on a regular basis to keep her happy. Including hugely expensive cars.

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YouOKHun · 17/09/2025 16:40

It’s a good question about who clients have paid to access the expertise and/or services of the scammer. My guess is that Castle has recommended her and taken some money for whatever “package” the scammer was part of, probably the Moronic grift she’s been banging on about. So it’s pretty easy to demonstrate the benefit to the pair of them is fused. Even if people have paid Kick up the Arse School Ltd directly Castle is still the person who used her reach to promote the scammer, inviting people to trust both of them and she was actively promoting the scammer at the end of July. Those paying have put their trust in Castle and their “contract” is surely with her?

Anyone coming to the situation with fresh eyes, (for example, someone Castle has reported it to, if they exist/don’t immediately dismiss it), and they take an objective view of what’s gone on, it would be reasonable for them to conclude that as she had set up a limited company with the scammer she must have known enough about her to promote her as heavily as she did and to ignore the red flags raised by others during that time. Ignoring red flags about your co-director and encouraging people towards her with promises of making “quick and easy big money” (24 July on Insta) just doesn’t look like the actions of a poor misled victim. It looks like the actions of someone setting aside the doubts to exploit something while she could, because she didn’t think the losses would be hers. A quick glance at the social media of “victim number one” would reveal a catalogue of dodgy associations, stories of success with more holes in them than Swiss cheese and a general sense of her being a bigger scammer than her scammer. Someone might conclude she is thick but could that also conclude she is innocent?

I don’t suppose we will ever see the accounts of the Global company. I wonder what the purpose of the newly created Premium company is? Why is Scamversity late with the accounts? I too get the sense that the magic money tree has suffered significant leaf fall and won’t have as much to offer Castle and Bruv in future, therefore there is some shuffling going on and our favourite Midlands spa town accounts will have to use their special magic calculator to confirm that Castle is still an eight figure earner.

Spongebobette · 17/09/2025 16:46

I think Yawn got the idea of using the word ‘Agency’ from stalking Castle

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BSintolerant · 17/09/2025 16:52

Crikeyalmighty · 17/09/2025 11:15

@Justdancevance I’m dying to post ‘didn’t you notice this lack of paying anyone on the company business account- as you were a director’ but I know she will just delete it and is probably fingers poised 24/7 at moment for anyone picking up on this

I seem to recall that if you post a comment to that effect and immediately block any of her Facebook profiles she won’t be able to see or delete your post. Go on: I dare you! 😈

Justdancevance · 17/09/2025 17:18

By paying whatever castle is charging - you are introduced to her ‘experts’ on how to sell on Amazon, how to copywrite etc

But it seems she doesn’t even bother to professionally vet them, you might as well just look up randoms on the internet and save the fee. Even now, she hasn’t vetted anyone, just wails about she was taken advantage ofx

in fact scammers will be actively drawn to the collection of gullible idiots, as rich pickings.

The other day castle was looking for 6 figure business owners, rich pickings indeed

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