Botwatch 89!!!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM.

[Spongebobette]

New thread! Welcome to anyone who wants to be better informed about the dodgy practices of multi level marketing companies

@Spongebobette
"There was a golden nugget of advice from some network marketing coach years ago who said pricing something with a 7 at the end made it more attractive"

When I worked in retail (for a huge multinational retailer) if it ended in 7 it meant the item had gone to clearance.......

Got to love Castle getting scammed, what goes around comes around...

@SnoogyWoo is that what has happened to Castle and the reason for her kindness is not weakness post? I’d love to know so I am running through her recent contacts. Apprentice bot is the only one she has worked with in the last two weeks who is the bigger shark.

I reckon Nurse will be back on Instagram stories by Sunday! She'll be desperate to share how they slept and how they had a chilled day/night etc
I notice it's all gone quiet again on the coaching front and the book as well, which I'd say is no bad thing.
Although I see she was talking about FL and aloe the other week so not sure if she's trying to venture into that again....

Castle put this on social media....

⚠️ WARNING - SCAMMER ⚠️

I can’t share names (this is now with the police), but I can share what happened so others don’t get hurt.

Since March 2024, I’m embarrassed, ashamed, and guilty to say that I’ve been manipulated (groomed) by someone who used the grief of my sister, Nic, to get close to me, my family, and my trusting audience.

The darkness and depravity of what they’ve said and done knows no bounds.

Just three months into our friendship, they claimed to have cancer - obviously because they knew how deeply that would hit me. And it did. Pulled me much closer much faster.

They later told me their mum was in hospice care and their dad was in hospital “end of life.”

All lies, used to manipulate sympathy and trust.

They sent me “favourite songs” that matched some of the most painful moments of my life - including my sister’s funeral song and the song of her last dance with my dad - all to build trust and emotional dependency.

They faked serious illness.
They faked family terminal illnesses.
They faked professional opportunities.

At one point, they told me an accreditation they were “putting through” was worth 229 points (see screenshot) and messaged to say that it was “so weird that it was nice birthday” Very sick.

Always using those “synchronicities” to keep me pulled in.

What makes it hard is knowing that some people knew and said nothing.

Maybe for fear of not getting their own money back and I can understand… BUT… screw the money - I hear this person is STILL out there on the hunt & making fake allegations about me too… 🙄

I do not want her scamming someone else for me to get my money back.

Those other peoples silence (for their own reasons I get it) cost me far more than money.

I would never stand by and watch someone else go through what we’ve been through.

Please be careful: scammers will exploit your kindness and even your deepest losses.

Trust your instincts.
Protect your money and your energy.

If something feels off, it probably is.

Be careful, my friends. 💔

PS…. this was a fake message they sent allegedly from CPD confirming the accreditation was all good to go and sell - IT WAS/IS NOT!

Oh and yes … their birthday is NOT the same as my sister’s but another “synchronicity” used to draw me in!

I’m not posting this for a witch hunt…

I hate online trolling

I’m genuinely sharing to hopefully stop that person having the ability to take money from anyone else…

I’m not okay being paid back from other peoples misfortune!!!

Please share if you feel your audience should know!

Scammer gets scammed!

Wow, imagine that Castle! using the grief of your sister to sell to and scam people, imagine that ay Castle. Would you like to see the 'just' desserts menu?

@SnoogyWooI hadn’t seen that post. probably one of the endless chain of Best Friends who come out of nowhere and get featured for a bit.

Wasn’t she just finding your “why” Castle? There is nothing in that horrible behaviour that wouldn’t be coached by your friend Ninja or by you (and a host of other grifters). It’s what your brother is doing right now with Apprentice Bot - identifying vulnerabilities, changing the story to appeal to those vulnerabilities, just like your “friend” has done to you and just like you do every time you use your DS’s diagnosis, the loss of your Dsis or your supposed humble policewoman to eight figure multimillionaire tale.
Swim with the sharks …

There’s always a bigger shark swimming about in the NWM/ coaching waters

eg Yawn paying a coach to coach her on how to coach, who is clearly an absolute charlatan

Not quite sure what Castle expected. Did she really think that any genuine CPD body would actually certify her bilge?

@Twentytwentyhindsight It’s amazing isn’t it? The ink is barely dry on all the CPD certificates Bruv coloured in for Scamversity yet she doesn’t recognise this little certificate wheeze when someone else is holding the colouring in pens. She is either spectacularly thick or she knew full well she was part of a scam but just didn’t come out on top this time so is now the victim. A liar or stupid or both? Both.

Wondering how much this ‘admission’ is about covering her own arse. Are her own victims complaining about paying for a ‘CPD certified’ offering that was (surprise, surprise!) no such thing?

Yawn has done two posts about self-confidence in the last 24 hours. She is obviously shaken by the lack of real interest in BuildaHouseofCards which she also launched in May to an equally lukewarm reception. I suspect she has spent the last couple of months pinning everything on this launch, hoping the others involved would give the whole thing some ballast.

You can shout as loud as you want Yawn but if there is no one in earshot it’s a waste of time.

@Twentytwentyhindsight yes it does smack of presenting a defence of ‘I’m an innocent party in this. I’m just telling you now before you starting naming me in your complaints’.

Looks like Yawn has gone back to stretching her photos (chocolate brown trousers one).

She's not that shape in real life and her head (in fact nobody's head) is that long/tall!

It's all fake like her 'double C' Temu Badge and Deeeooore bag.

The new bizness was only launched 5 mins ago and she’s already having new great ideas and offers, including offering ‘ladies’ 5 minute slots to talk about their business

it’s just all so desperate

She’s picking 5 ladies every 2 weeks

she’ll run out v quickly 😂

Why would anyone want to present their business to a bunch of other business owners?

Don’t this bunch ever look in the mirror - ? you would think they could sniff out a scammer or bullshitter a mile off - - they’ve had a ton of practice !

Also if I can say about yawn I’m really not sure who her target audience is - most businesses of any substance require a fair bit of hard cash initially and those in that position are going to look at her own track record and think ‘nope’ - it’s not exactly Deborah Meaden giving you advice and AI type content for £25 a month

Because any success she’s ever had is in network marketing- where you aren’t ACTUALLY running a business at all

And that’s why she’s tried to claim she ran a successful childminding business, to convince people she has some sort of track record, whereas she’s previously claimed she was in debt and about to default on the mortgage and coming across Forever Living was the answer to all her prayers

she never owned or ran a business with Forever Living, nor was she employed by them; she was an unpaid salesperson and recruiter, she worked for free for them when she presented at events, she was paid on the basis of what she and her downline sold, and the second she transgressed and upset people in the company she discovered she had no rights or recourse to employment law and her income stream dried up

why would anyone rely on her and techie for business acumen (techie got herself into debt by getting involved in FL)??

To me it’s nuts - we sell ( mine and Hs business) almost £2million a years worth of product and make about 6% for ourselves as we have a very specific kind of deal- out of this I have costs too - we do ok but aren’t loaded - we built from scratch but I wouldn’t be arrogant enough to go and say I need to coach others because at the end of the day in our case it comes down to having a niche product with buyers with money to spend and whilst their is competition for customers spend we have a unique product that can’t be replicated legally due to licenses . The most important thing is the concept , unless you are opening something that’s mass market proven concept generic - like say an accountancy office or indeed a childminder. I do think people would get more value ( for free) having a look round for free on UK business forums or even Reddit- small business.

Yawn is relying on women wanting her to be their friend and envying her amazing lifestyle 🙄

@Spongebobette yep , but it’s def smoke and mirrors because for someone who clearly is into signing up based on envy I’ve not exactly seen much 2 weeks in Maldives type stuff in just few years - and I’m pretty sure those posts would be up if it happened! Are there new MLMs out there doing well out of interest? Or is it very much a dying ‘thing’