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Botwatch 89!!!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM.

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Spongebobette · 10/07/2025 10:38

New thread! Welcome to anyone who wants to be better informed about the dodgy practices of multi level marketing companies

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Spongebobette · 24/08/2025 20:13

YouOKHun · 24/08/2025 20:08

“Retired”? Eased out by FLP under protest for bringing trouble to their door, with Bloodsucker silently standing by having failed to mentor her into line and Uber and friends sensing blood and giving her another shove towards the exit. It’s hardly a round of applause, a carriage clock and a fat pension is it?

Where is the hell of a lot of money now? Another bot who totally overreached herself based on a very brief lucrative phase and is now far worse off than she would have been if she (and Mr Yawn) had stuck at legitimate employment.

She seems to have filmed that video declaring she’s retired while sitting in the car at a family get together on a Bank Holiday Sunday, which is a rather odd thing to do

A family get together with her parents, her brother, his wife and children who all lined up to be photographed - her own children being notable by their absence 🤔

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cheeseomelette · 24/08/2025 20:30

At least it’s not another driving without a seatbelt one for a change. She does seem to be stationary in the back of their small car, in a lay by, by the looks of things. V odd. Perhaps she’s dogging.

Sugarplum48 · 24/08/2025 22:23

@cheeseomelette maybe dogging to move onto only fans🤣🤣🤣

BSintolerant · 24/08/2025 22:58

Dogging! 😆 I know a song about that!

fitgirl26 · 25/08/2025 11:31

What on earth is Yawn blathering on about now? She has to sell a load of aloe gloop to “collect her pension”?

definitelynotabot · 25/08/2025 12:10

fitgirl26 · 25/08/2025 11:31

What on earth is Yawn blathering on about now? She has to sell a load of aloe gloop to “collect her pension”?

She will be needing to do 4CCs a month to get anything. That is a lot of gloop

PieonaBarm · 25/08/2025 12:36

fitgirl26 · 25/08/2025 11:31

What on earth is Yawn blathering on about now? She has to sell a load of aloe gloop to “collect her pension”?

Hi Yawn 👋

It’s not a pension if you “still have to sell a certain amount of product each month”

Its called “work”

You’re welcome!

Pie!

Spongebobette · 25/08/2025 14:02

Just googled and that’s retailing £600 a month!

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definitelynotabot · 25/08/2025 14:36

Spongebobette · 25/08/2025 14:02

Just googled and that’s retailing £600 a month!

Let's hope her "pension" is more than that, then!

YouOKHun · 25/08/2025 16:25

If the coaching business was going well she wouldn’t be clinging on to FLP in any form would she? Seen as she can’t consign it to the past she has to spin it as an enjoyable bit of extra just to bide her time until a comfortable retirement, because Forever is looking after her and the relationship is great etc. Why would they be offering pension? Wasn’t she a successful business owner completely independent of FLP? If she means paying into her own fund then why not do that out of her six figure coaching income?

It implies a successful and healthy relationship with FLP which is misleading to any current or potential coaching customers who believe they’re being coached by an expert with three successful businesses.

I wonder what Techie thinks? Given her own problems thanks to FLP can’t she see through Yawn’s antics?

cheeseomelette · 25/08/2025 17:34

We all know the 6 figure thing is an utter crock of shit. She would need to have between 20-40 clients per week paying £50-100 per hour for that. I’d be surprised if she has 5. My 19 year old genuinely leads a more luxurious seeming lifestyle on his income and 6 figures it is not.

If she were earning that kind of money there would be proper holidays, new clothes, day trips, concerts, meals out etc. not upcycled cast off furniture and co op meal deals on the grass outside the giggling squid because she’s too skint to go in.

Spongebobette · 25/08/2025 17:40

I must have missed the 2 week holiday she had on an exotic beach this summer

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Spongebobette · 25/08/2025 17:42

There was the FL paid for flight to Paris in April where she took the opportunity to pose all over the place and take photos

and 24 hours in Devon (?), again mostly spent getting photos for content

perhaps she’s waiting till Jan/Feb to go to the Caribbean

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ArbunneHun · 26/08/2025 20:01

End of an era: Yawn leaving Forever Living… never thought we’d see the day. It’s like the ravens leaving the Tower, innit???

All this talk of Soft Focus Bot has got me thinking about the good ol’ Valentus days. Anyone know what our ex-Lifetree World, ex- Valentus, ex- Modere, Lip Filler & Loubs Bot (lives in Stoke, name rhymes with ‘meth’) is up to?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 26/08/2025 20:07

Would that be Salon bot? Still grifting away, currently shilling Zinzino.

ticktock19 · 26/08/2025 20:27

lol…yes, salon is my other ‘local’ bot that I follow,
as @Twentytwentyhindsightsaid, she’s on the blood testing / miracle omega oils and the best ever ever ever collagen that she’s ever had selling spree for zinzino

Spongebobette · 26/08/2025 20:38

I see she’s rebranded herself as ‘SEN mum’.

they’ll exploit anything won’t they

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Crikeyalmighty · 26/08/2025 20:56

Can I have a clue please on salon bot

DeliaDeetz · 26/08/2025 21:02

Why is Yawn standing in front of a door that needs a good varnish holding a microphone?
Can anyone explain what it's meant to represent and what it has to do with the caption about watching who you take advice from?

Angrymum22 · 26/08/2025 21:19

I’m confused by Yawns pension. I took my pension 2 yrs ago. I get paid monthly ( with a huge lump sum paid out at the beginning), I have to do bugger all to receive my pension. I do work one day a week for which I get paid extra. I could work 5 days a week and would be paid a fortune on top of my pension. How is it a pension when she still has to work for it?

Spongebobette · 26/08/2025 21:21

Angrymum22 · 26/08/2025 21:19

I’m confused by Yawns pension. I took my pension 2 yrs ago. I get paid monthly ( with a huge lump sum paid out at the beginning), I have to do bugger all to receive my pension. I do work one day a week for which I get paid extra. I could work 5 days a week and would be paid a fortune on top of my pension. How is it a pension when she still has to work for it?

Good question! It’s not a pension at all is it! It’s just the dregs of her ‘business’ and she’s only allowed to profit if she continues to pay to play

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Spongebobette · 26/08/2025 21:24

DeliaDeetz · 26/08/2025 21:02

Why is Yawn standing in front of a door that needs a good varnish holding a microphone?
Can anyone explain what it's meant to represent and what it has to do with the caption about watching who you take advice from?

I don’t know but she mentions hiring a coach who is ‘out of your league’

her own so called coach is a complete charlatan but I suppose an even more outrageous charlatan than Yawn, so perhaps she’s right

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YouOKHun · 26/08/2025 23:05

@ArbunneHun not sure if you’ve followed the last 18 months but Yawn’s departure from FLP has been a slow and excruciating one. You’d think she was given a golden handshake and a round of applause on her last day (though of course I know you’ve got her number and wouldn’t fall for this idea).

In case you missed it (and can tolerate a summary) then here are the highlights:

The beginning of the end was her being one of the featured bots in a TiNA report into income claims which upset HQ US because it meant the spotlight was placed on them and they had to shuffle things around to make it look like they’d dealt with the rogue bots.

Then around the same time came an epic meltdown, calling airline staff cunts (over a predicament of her own creation) in a broadcast on SM which also name-checked Forever. Much as I feel the “c” word and Forever do very much belong together in the same sentence Forever evidently didn’t feel the same and she removed the clip. She was STILL making income claims - how could she stop with a dwindling bizniz to shore up?

Then came brief mentoring from the smiling assassin that is Bloodsucker and then when that was swiftly canned it became clearer that there had been Michael Kors handbags at Dawn with other bots and Yawn was frozen out by Uber along with ex-BFF, the one who I think was Yawn’s upline and also a flip-flopping 2Jags. Many tears and talk of removing toxic people from her life. During August 2024, a panicked Yawn unveiled her spiritual side, purchasing a Buddha statue from The Range and announcing a new affinity with nature and the Good Life. She shared a series of picture postcard views she claimed to be from her back door but weren’t and a series of idyllic shots of her poo picking or digging raised beds in unsuitable footwear.

She seemed to be still part of FLP but stopped being featured by them, no photos of her, no name checks at event she attended. Then she was cancelled as a speaker. Other bots seemed to alter their behaviour too, either laying low or talking about being coaches and not mentioning FLP. As if a telling off had happened along with an instruction to lie low. She was glad, she said, to put the pressures of the international successful six figure business owner behind her, yet she was clinging on for dear life. It emerged that someone was paying for the new spiritual life and this had been the case for some time (as of today Mr Yawn has been back in a J.O.B for about 2 years).

As hope faded of breathing new life into her FLP grift she joined the ranks of many desperate bots - Yawn rebranded as a coach. She created a club with around 70 members, though the number paying £22 a month wasn’t clear. This did not sit comfortably alongside her FLP activities. The club was where her faithful downline could go to hear what they’d already heard many times before. No matter, by Christmas there would be many more members and by mid 2025 there would be thousands of members she promised - there are 49 members.

During the initial flurry of coaching activity the Good Life persona was quietly parked in favour of a series of photoshoots featuring some unbecoming shots of a super successful six figure coach who had already run three successful businesses. She published a book which was reviewed by critics quite harshly before dropping out of view on Amazon and missing out on the Booker Prize.

In February she severed links with Forever (she said) but they still retain her video clip in their closed FBO group talking about how FLP is currently giving her financial freedom and a huge and stable income. It seems income claims are fine if TiNA can’t see them! All that is left of the FLP career is a desperate need to flog product by undercutting other bots. However she retains a dilapidated caravan, a bot potty, the keyring from the crushed white Rangey and a large directors loan.

(I’ve probably missed out loads!).

Spongebobette · 27/08/2025 06:59

Excellent summary

I remember when she used to say she’d never leave FL, what a wonderful generous company it was etc etc

I also remember her love-bombing poor unfortunate new downlines who thought they’d made a friend fir life

And her claiming that she could retire at any point but was still working a few hours a week out of the goodness of her heart to help others

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Crikeyalmighty · 27/08/2025 09:15

Seems to me that those who do ‘get away’ with this tosh for years are all glammed up to the hilt, slim and look the part and they attract as you say others who think ‘I want to be like that’- usually ( not always I know) women who are struggling somewhat - they are selling an aspirational lifestyle but built on the sand and sadly I don’t think a lot of the women who get roped in are very bright - they take it all at face value - not dissimilar in my view to believing Farage without questioning what he’s actually selling.

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