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PREMIUM BONDS JUNE ONWARDS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 28/05/2025 23:28

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

Martin Lewis’s opinion on pb - quite an interesting read

https://www.saga.co.uk/money-news/premium-bonds

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 holding win a million (March 25) also a £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of April 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 3.8 %

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/nsi-premium-bonds-rate-changes-31317737

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

Current name

Current address

Premium Bond holder number 

All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

NS&I Premium Bonds rate changes as expert warns of more cuts

National Savings and Investments said that the lowering was being made in response 'to changes in the savings market'

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/nsi-premium-bonds-rate-changes-31317737

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Blondeshavemorefun · 12/07/2025 21:51

westisbest1982 · 12/07/2025 10:48

I just worked out that as a basic rate tax payer I would pay £250 in tax on £2,250 interest accrued over a year in an ISA that pays 4.5% on £50k. It's not quite as much as I'd expected and I can see why people have moved money from PBS and put it elsewhere, but I think I'll keep my FH for a year and see how it goes.

So put a reminder in your phone for Aug 2026 and see if you have won £2k on this past year

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BackinGear · 15/07/2025 19:17

SchrodingersKitty · 10/07/2025 10:29

My first big win this month. I've had full holdings for 4 years and usually get something each month but recently not as much as from savings accounts so was thinking of moving it. But I won £50,250 (from 4 bonds, one big prize of £50,000). So keeping them for a bit longer!

How do you find out, when it is a sizeable win?

Did you just open the app...and there it was!?!

SchrodingersKitty · 15/07/2025 19:21

BackinGear · 15/07/2025 19:17

How do you find out, when it is a sizeable win?

Did you just open the app...and there it was!?!

I got a letter in the post - I usually check the results but I had a lot going on and had forgotten the date, so it was a nice surprise. They also needed me to fill in a hard copy form to confirm bank details / how I wanted it to be paid, rather than just using my attached bank account as they usually would.

Heylittlesongbird · 15/07/2025 19:55

SchrodingersKitty · 15/07/2025 19:21

I got a letter in the post - I usually check the results but I had a lot going on and had forgotten the date, so it was a nice surprise. They also needed me to fill in a hard copy form to confirm bank details / how I wanted it to be paid, rather than just using my attached bank account as they usually would.

Congratulations!

OK, so my new tactic needs to be to not check the results. It will guarantee I win 😂

BackinGear · 16/07/2025 10:45

SchrodingersKitty · 15/07/2025 19:21

I got a letter in the post - I usually check the results but I had a lot going on and had forgotten the date, so it was a nice surprise. They also needed me to fill in a hard copy form to confirm bank details / how I wanted it to be paid, rather than just using my attached bank account as they usually would.

Really lovely letter to open! Happy days.

I was thinking I would definitely have grabbed my glasses if I'd thought I had read £50,000 on my tiny App! 😂

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 18/07/2025 11:27

Wow. Huge congratulations to @SchrodingersKitty ! Smile

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 18/07/2025 11:35

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Quay · 18/07/2025 15:07

I’ve just bought £500 worth to make mine up to £8k. I’ve not won anything the last couple of months so keeping everything crossed that I’ll be lucky 🍀

Blondeshavemorefun · 18/07/2025 16:48

Finally got some for dd. She was left £250 in my aunts will do have started an account for her

now what happens if she wins the million. We know it happens as in March £100 holdings won

yes very rare but it did happen

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MintBiscuit65 · 19/07/2025 09:19

@BuyingButterAndSatinSandals I love your Premium Bon(d)Jovi count downs!

@Blondeshavemorefun Big wins for kids can happen. Apparently last year 17 children received prizes of £100,000 each - https://www.nsandi-adviser.com/premium-bonds-%E2%80%93-2024-year-figures Who knows what size of holdings they had, but fingers crossed for your DD!

Premium Bonds – 2024: a year in figures | NS&I Adviser

Home page

https://www.nsandi-adviser.com/premium-bonds-%E2%80%93-2024-year-figures

Cowhen · 19/07/2025 09:26

MintBiscuit65 · 19/07/2025 09:19

@BuyingButterAndSatinSandals I love your Premium Bon(d)Jovi count downs!

@Blondeshavemorefun Big wins for kids can happen. Apparently last year 17 children received prizes of £100,000 each - https://www.nsandi-adviser.com/premium-bonds-%E2%80%93-2024-year-figures Who knows what size of holdings they had, but fingers crossed for your DD!

Premium Bond Jovi! 🤣

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/07/2025 10:22

Cowhen · 19/07/2025 09:26

Premium Bond Jovi! 🤣

Ha ha. Fab name

and yes she may win

dh grandson won think £50 on £50 bonds

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BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 21/07/2025 13:45

I love your Premium Bon(d)Jovi count downs!

Thanks! I might make it a monthly thing to entertain/annoy everyone @MintBiscuit65 . I also love your Premium Bon(d)Jovi - tempted to make it my next username for these threads unless you want it!

westisbest1982 · 21/07/2025 13:56

This month is crawling along for me, maybe this rainy weather is something to do with it.

Thanks for posting that link @MintBiscuit65 I was taken back after reading:

  1. The total amount of eligible Premium Bonds held increased by more than £5 billion in 2024 – from £122.2 billion to £127.7 billion.

Presumably that increase was over a year. It's staggering to me how popular PBs are because I know hardly anyone else with them (I know that's a tiny sample).

MintBiscuit65 · 21/07/2025 14:54

@BuyingButterAndSatinSandals More than happy for you to be PremiumBondJovi! It's very apt for you!

Womblingmerrily · 24/07/2025 14:44

Okay this is random. I've received a NS PBZ credit to my bank account today for £25.

Having googled it seems that sometimes they reallocate prizes that are not eligible to other 'reserve' bonds.

Only thing is that all my prizes are reinvested not paid out.

I was executor for my father who had PBs about 3 years ago - anyone think it could be that?? I can find absolutely nothing showing in my transaction history for this.

Puzzled, but extra money always welcome.

Any other explanations?

CaveMum · 24/07/2025 15:05

@Womblingmerrily it will be because someone else's Bonds were not eligible for one reason or another. The prizes for those Bonds are redrawn so you've won because someone else's was not eligible.

By the way, loving PremiumBondJovi!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 24/07/2025 19:55

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BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 24/07/2025 20:04

I've asked MNHQ to withdraw that pp for me. The link was there and working when I previewed it but it had disappeared when I posted. Strange!

Womblingmerrily · 25/07/2025 10:38

@CaveMum Thanks for that. I just got a letter through the post saying the same thing. It's from December 2023

Womblingmerrily · 25/07/2025 10:40

So just think, any of us could get a random prize at any time - if the million prize isn't eligible for some reason it could be reallocated.

I wonder if they send out Agent million mid month in that case, although it almost certainly has never happened. (yet)

Happiestathome · 25/07/2025 12:41

I’ve just received a random £50 from premium bonds into my account. No letter as yet. Happy days 😍

TheWeeDonkeyFella · 25/07/2025 13:06

Congratulations @Womblingmerrily & @Happiestathome that is a nice bonus to come out of the blue.

The reallocation process is quite interesting and it appears you originally missed out on higher winnings when the draw originally made. From an FOI response:

"For example, if a £1,000 prize was
deemed ineligible, the system will move the top £500 prize winner up and note they are due an additional £500 prize. Similarly, the top
£100 prize winner will be moved up to a £500 prize and so be sent another £400. This will continue to the first eligible bond out of
the draw that missed out on a prize, and they will be moved up to receive a £25 prize payment for that month."

More explanation here (final NSI reply dated 29/08/24): https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/reallocated_prizes_from_premium

It can be big amounts too, in one example a £50k prize winner had sadly died over 12 months before the draw so someone would have received a surprise £25k when reallocated.

Going off to check bank account...

Reallocated Prizes from Premium Bonds - a Freedom of Information request to National Savings and Investments

I understand that prizes from Premium Bonds can be reallocated if the original winner was ineligible to receive it. Please can you provide me with your internal list of reasons why a bond holder would be ineligible to receive a prize? Could you also p...

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/reallocated_prizes_from_premium

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/07/2025 13:18

TheWeeDonkeyFella · 25/07/2025 13:06

Congratulations @Womblingmerrily & @Happiestathome that is a nice bonus to come out of the blue.

The reallocation process is quite interesting and it appears you originally missed out on higher winnings when the draw originally made. From an FOI response:

"For example, if a £1,000 prize was
deemed ineligible, the system will move the top £500 prize winner up and note they are due an additional £500 prize. Similarly, the top
£100 prize winner will be moved up to a £500 prize and so be sent another £400. This will continue to the first eligible bond out of
the draw that missed out on a prize, and they will be moved up to receive a £25 prize payment for that month."

More explanation here (final NSI reply dated 29/08/24): https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/reallocated_prizes_from_premium

It can be big amounts too, in one example a £50k prize winner had sadly died over 12 months before the draw so someone would have received a surprise £25k when reallocated.

Going off to check bank account...

That sounds a lot of flaffing and hard work to upgrade everyone

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TheWeeDonkeyFella · 25/07/2025 13:25

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/07/2025 13:18

That sounds a lot of flaffing and hard work to upgrade everyone

It does sound a lot of work for NS&I but I think it's fair and makes sense really.

If someone should have won a bigger prize the first time around then it should go to them rather than back into another random draw.