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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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DuckBushCityLimit · 23/01/2025 16:40

Might have the smallest lucky holding of the month, here!

DH just received a prize warrant for £50 forwarded from his mum. He knew he had 'a bond' bought for him by his nan when he was a baby, but had never got round to finding it or updating the address on the account. Luckily his parents never moved house.

Still not sure if his holding is actually only £1 or a bit more, but it's finally paid off with his first win in c.48 years! At least it's prompted him to fill in the form to update his details, and I will be nagging him to register online so he can check how many he has, and if there are any more prizes unclaimed (unlikely).

JellyBeanFactory · 24/01/2025 20:49

Still January.

11 days to go...

PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........
PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........
Starryknightcloud · 24/01/2025 21:12

Added 1.25k to my holdings thanks to a bit of a windfall, so hopeful March will give more chances to win!

Lilly11a · 25/01/2025 07:16

Joining so I can place mark and see everyone's winnings . I have 4.2k , last win March 24 , last win prior to that Oct 22! If no further wins by March - I m taking out and putting in my stocks and shares ISA

MyrtleLion · 25/01/2025 13:34

I bought my PBs on 5 December. Will I be in the draw at the end of January or do I have to wait till the end of February?

ScouserInExile · 25/01/2025 13:43

MyrtleLion · 25/01/2025 13:34

I bought my PBs on 5 December. Will I be in the draw at the end of January or do I have to wait till the end of February?

They're drawn on the first and you need to hold them for a full calendar month. So yours will be in the February 1st draw. Good luck!

MyrtleLion · 25/01/2025 14:00

ScouserInExile · 25/01/2025 13:43

They're drawn on the first and you need to hold them for a full calendar month. So yours will be in the February 1st draw. Good luck!

Does that mean I'll be in the next draw?

1975wasthebest · 25/01/2025 14:01

MyrtleLion · 25/01/2025 14:00

Does that mean I'll be in the next draw?

Yes - the one we’re all waiting for. February.

MyrtleLion · 25/01/2025 14:02

1975wasthebest · 25/01/2025 14:01

Yes - the one we’re all waiting for. February.

That's brilliant! I have £5k so I'm not expecting a win, but you never know.

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/01/2025 16:03

How lovely @DuckBushCityLimit

tech they are drawn end of each month but is named the following month

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ScouserInExile · 25/01/2025 16:06

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/01/2025 16:03

How lovely @DuckBushCityLimit

tech they are drawn end of each month but is named the following month

I had no idea! I thought they were drawn on the first.

Sorry for giving wrong info 😳

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/01/2025 16:15

No worries - it is confusing. Be easier if they draw the month they name

for example in April. AM will see people the day before the first working day of april

so as April 1 , AM will visit 31 March - also meaning April is drawn in March

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ScouserInExile · 25/01/2025 16:19

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/01/2025 16:15

No worries - it is confusing. Be easier if they draw the month they name

for example in April. AM will see people the day before the first working day of april

so as April 1 , AM will visit 31 March - also meaning April is drawn in March

Ah... I wondered how the Agent Million visit worked. Thanks for clearing that up!

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/01/2025 17:19

It’s all in the first post I put up in every thread

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Sparklfairy · 25/01/2025 18:05

Confession time blondes - I willfully ignore your helpful info re the millionaire days, and so I can never remember whether it's the last working day of the month (this Friday) or the day before the first working day of the month (next Sunday). It's a sort of mutated extension of other posters playing Schrodinger's Cat with their prizes by not checking the list and keeping the excitement going.

So when Agent William inevitably doesn't show up to my house on Friday, it's cool, because he's coming on Sunday instead Grin

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/01/2025 22:25

Day before first working day @Sparklfairy

i never doesn’t think AM will visit me so I get more excited for list and app

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ScouserInExile · 25/01/2025 22:30

Sparklfairy · 25/01/2025 18:05

Confession time blondes - I willfully ignore your helpful info re the millionaire days, and so I can never remember whether it's the last working day of the month (this Friday) or the day before the first working day of the month (next Sunday). It's a sort of mutated extension of other posters playing Schrodinger's Cat with their prizes by not checking the list and keeping the excitement going.

So when Agent William inevitably doesn't show up to my house on Friday, it's cool, because he's coming on Sunday instead Grin

I'm going to get excited on the wrong day now and be even more impatient about the winners not being listed yet 😡
If it's done before the first it's a big con. It's like the Strictly Sunday show being filmed on Saturday...😆

RockaLock · 25/01/2025 22:41

But... every month NS&I need to draw hundreds of thousands of numbers; run some checks to make sure they are all valid or whatever; set up email notifications; update the app with prizes won; create the high prize winner list; arrange bank transfers or cheques or bond purchases; arrange for AM to visit the £1m winners; and have someone check everything to make sure they aren't making any mistakes.

Which will presumably take some time, even if it is a largely automated process.

So really, I think it's very logical that they do the draw at some date before the first of the month, otherwise there's no way that they'd be ready with all the announcements etc on the 1st (or first working day) 🤷‍♀️

If they only did the draw on the 1st, then we'd all be waiting until about the 7th probably for any results!

1975wasthebest · 25/01/2025 23:00

I’ve never thought the draw was on the first, at least not for all prizes. There’s nearly six million prizes every month - too much admin for NS&I (who can’t even sort out a decent app) to deal with in one go. The AM draw maybe takes place a few days before the 1st so the travel for the visits can be sorted out.

timeforachange999 · 25/01/2025 23:02

I didn’t win last month after doubling my bonds. So this month feels like a long month. So long that I succumbed to the people’s postcode lottery ads on the radio and signed up to that as well. Oops 🙊

FiveShelties · 26/01/2025 04:08

Not long now, good luck everyone😁

JollyHostess101 · 26/01/2025 07:45

This month has been very long!!

Very sleep deprived here so can't seem to find it of my own accord 🥱😴😵‍💫

What's that magic amount of bonds where you start to win more I'm sure I've read it somewhere (probably here) but can't remember nor find it

Sparklfairy · 26/01/2025 17:17

JollyHostess101 · 26/01/2025 07:45

This month has been very long!!

Very sleep deprived here so can't seem to find it of my own accord 🥱😴😵‍💫

What's that magic amount of bonds where you start to win more I'm sure I've read it somewhere (probably here) but can't remember nor find it

The figure I've seen thrown about is £30,000 but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it!

JollyHostess101 · 26/01/2025 17:29

@Sparklfairy thank you for making me not feel like I'm making it up as my friends with PB just looked at me blankly as if I'd imagined it 🤣

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