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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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JellyBeanFactory · 23/02/2025 13:36

The day I'm having, I need it to escape!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 25/02/2025 13:23

Only a week to go until the full results and we'll all be put out of our misery for another month. Here's to a lot of happy or satisfied posts on the thread by this time next week! Best of luck everyone.

IDareSay · 25/02/2025 13:38

It's my last month on full holdings as I have to withdraw a chunk to buy a new car. Keeping fingers crossed for this draw as who knows, I could win enough to pay for the car and not have to withdraw any! 😁

I can dream...

ScarlettSunset · 25/02/2025 13:40

I will be having to withdraw some too after this draw. First time I've needed to take any out. So I too am hoping for a big enough win that I don't need to use any that's already there!

FishPie2 · 25/02/2025 15:21

I'm still waiting for £200 won in this months draw. 3 phone calls later and still nothing.
Good job I have all the information re numbers that won the money but not happy with them. Will use the old method of communication at the end of the month and send them a signed for letter.

Beruthiel · 25/02/2025 18:12

I bought some for the first time a couple of weeks ago! Starting with £3K and I'm going to add a little more each month. Sadly I have to wait for the April draw for mine to have a chance, but good luck to everyone else!

CaveMum · 25/02/2025 18:25

Almost there everyone…

Bimblesalong · 25/02/2025 18:41

Hoping for a prize this month after zero last time - I reckon something with a few zeros on the end will make up for that!

SB1971 · 25/02/2025 20:07

I’ve had to take £8k out this month for a new car so will be interesting to see what this brings prize wise. Fingers crossed for us all!

Phase2 · 25/02/2025 20:44

FishPie2 · 25/02/2025 15:21

I'm still waiting for £200 won in this months draw. 3 phone calls later and still nothing.
Good job I have all the information re numbers that won the money but not happy with them. Will use the old method of communication at the end of the month and send them a signed for letter.

That's odd! Have you set up to reinvest ?

FishPie2 · 26/02/2025 11:43

Phase2 · 25/02/2025 20:44

That's odd! Have you set up to reinvest ?

No I have the money put into the bank as I have max holdings. Checked everything including asking the bank to check it and nothing deposited. Getting back to them today.

Thisisthewayz · 26/02/2025 11:49

@FishPie2 that’s so strange, I get any winnings transferred into my bank account a week later. It’s never been late or not deposited.
Do you have internet banking?
Is it possible the money is going into a different account?

sparkellie · 26/02/2025 15:47

Do other people keep much in their current account? I have invested 17k in premium bonds. My current account doesn't pay interest but there is around 9k in there as I'm always worried about not being able to access money in other accounts easily. The sensible part of my brain says there's no point keeping that amount of money in a current account, and to put another 5/6k in premium bonds, but I just can't seem to convince myself it really is that quick and easy to remove money from premium bonds. How easy is it to access the money if you need it? I have an ISA and savings bond seperately, but I don't want to tie this money up.
What would you do?

InMySpareTime · 26/02/2025 16:15

@sparkellie I don't let the current account go below £1k or above about £5kand regularly transfer all but £1k into savings the day before payday. I have a mix of PBs, ISAs, Triple access high interest savings and long term share savings.
You can withdraw PBs in a couple of days, they're good for a bit of excitement and easy access savings as part of a diversified portfolio.
What you choose to do will depend on your appetite for risk vs the returns you want, and the number of withdrawals you need in a year.

ExitPursuedByABare · 26/02/2025 16:26

@sparkellie I have my money in a Chip account. Currently paying 4.38% and instantly accessible. Recommended by someone on here.

1975wasthebest · 26/02/2025 17:10

@sparkellie There are loads of instant access accounts you can choose from - I also like Chip, but the current interest rates for their two easy access accounts aren't that good (3.56 % and 3.50 % - @ExitPursuedByABare the rate has gone down since last time you checked).

Phase2 · 26/02/2025 19:48

sparkellie · 26/02/2025 15:47

Do other people keep much in their current account? I have invested 17k in premium bonds. My current account doesn't pay interest but there is around 9k in there as I'm always worried about not being able to access money in other accounts easily. The sensible part of my brain says there's no point keeping that amount of money in a current account, and to put another 5/6k in premium bonds, but I just can't seem to convince myself it really is that quick and easy to remove money from premium bonds. How easy is it to access the money if you need it? I have an ISA and savings bond seperately, but I don't want to tie this money up.
What would you do?

I would just have an instant access savings account with the same bank. Earn a bit of interest?

sparkellie · 26/02/2025 20:07

Phase2 · 26/02/2025 19:48

I would just have an instant access savings account with the same bank. Earn a bit of interest?

Thanks, the flexible savings account rate is only 1.5%, which is why I was considering chucking it in premium bonds.

Phase2 · 26/02/2025 20:09

I guess I was thinking of it still being instant access and in the same place, just with a bit of interest (better than now)

InMySpareTime · 26/02/2025 20:17

If you're only making max 3 withdrawals a year, Nationwide have a 4% instant saver, or 6.5% for up to £200 a month regular deposit. I have both so have instant access to up to 6 withdrawals a year between them.

sparkellie · 26/02/2025 20:19

Thanks all. I've only had a chunk of money this big since my partner died and I'm still trying to get my head around how to manage it. Your help is much appreciated!

JollyHostess101 · 26/02/2025 20:22

Atom Bank have a reward saver for 4.60% if you don't withdraw then it does drop for the remainder of the month but then goes up again!!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 26/02/2025 20:42

My condolences @sparkellie Flowers

After leaving an amount in to cover this month's bills and leaving £1k in as a buffer for emergencies and anything extra or unexpected, I would add the rest to PBs. It only takes a few days to get the money if you change your mind and want to withdraw some. The more you have in, the greater chance you have to win. If you add to them on or before 28/2 they will be eligible for next month's draw.

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/02/2025 20:45

@sparkellie 💐 agree with @BuyingButterAndSatinSandals. Keep £1k or so and rest into pb

if you want money out it’s usually 3days or so into nominated account

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1975wasthebest · 26/02/2025 20:51

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 26/02/2025 20:42

My condolences @sparkellie Flowers

After leaving an amount in to cover this month's bills and leaving £1k in as a buffer for emergencies and anything extra or unexpected, I would add the rest to PBs. It only takes a few days to get the money if you change your mind and want to withdraw some. The more you have in, the greater chance you have to win. If you add to them on or before 28/2 they will be eligible for next month's draw.

Not next month. They would be eligible in April.

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