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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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JollyHostess101 · 26/02/2025 20:51

While we're killing time before draw day can anyone who knows more than me recommend a decent junior savings account? We have one with a small building society who are finally closing their two last remaining local branches and if they don't make the kids account accessible online we'll have to move it!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 26/02/2025 20:57

1975wasthebest · 26/02/2025 20:51

Not next month. They would be eligible in April.

That's what I meant. Not this month's draw (drawn end of Feb/beginning of March) that we are all waiting for now but next month's draw.

Bunnybear42 · 26/02/2025 21:01

I was given a £5 premium bond when I was born by a great aunt. Never won anything from it until last year (43 years later) I won £100. Very pleased and unexpected as clearly forgotten all about it- was sent to my mums house. Thanks for thread it has reminded me I should buy some PB - never seem to get round to it

mariaberria · 26/02/2025 22:14

JollyHostess101 · 26/02/2025 20:51

While we're killing time before draw day can anyone who knows more than me recommend a decent junior savings account? We have one with a small building society who are finally closing their two last remaining local branches and if they don't make the kids account accessible online we'll have to move it!

Look at Martin Lewis MSE site.

ExitPursuedByABare · 26/02/2025 22:50

@1975wasthebest

Mine’s a cash ISA and is 4.32%.

JollyHostess101 · 26/02/2025 23:24

@mariaberria I have done but sometimes people on here have some different ideas so thought I'd ask too as they're a knowledgable bunch!!

Swanchaser · 27/02/2025 06:09

Help me out here - day before first working day of the month is this Sunday 2nd March so the day to be prepared for a knock on the door?

CaveMum · 27/02/2025 06:37

JollyHostess101 · 26/02/2025 20:51

While we're killing time before draw day can anyone who knows more than me recommend a decent junior savings account? We have one with a small building society who are finally closing their two last remaining local branches and if they don't make the kids account accessible online we'll have to move it!

We have the Halifax Kid’s Saver accounts. It’s actually 2 accounts - 1 you pay up to £100 per month into and then in the anniversary of the account it sweeps into a second lower interest rate account. You can also pay into the second account whenever you like so we put things like birthday/Christmas money in there.

The Regular Saver pays 5.5% and the sweep account 2.85% up to £5,000 then 1.1% above that.

The account becomes theirs when they turn 16.

The interest is not brilliant but is about the best you can get in a dedicated kid’s account.

Wrapunzel · 27/02/2025 07:58

JollyHostess101 · 26/02/2025 20:51

While we're killing time before draw day can anyone who knows more than me recommend a decent junior savings account? We have one with a small building society who are finally closing their two last remaining local branches and if they don't make the kids account accessible online we'll have to move it!

I've moved mine from Santander to the nsandi ones, mine are 8&6 so I still sort their money

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/02/2025 11:43

@Swanchaser. Yes

AM Sunday 2nd
LIST Monday 3rd
APP Tuesday 4th

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Spaceracers · 27/02/2025 20:23

Oh I was expecting AM tomorrow! Two more days until I can celebrate

MonkeyTennis34 · 28/02/2025 07:43

@Blondeshavemorefun
APP means there's an App?
What do the other acronyms mean?

JellyBeanFactory · 28/02/2025 09:02

MonkeyTennis34 · 28/02/2025 07:43

@Blondeshavemorefun
APP means there's an App?
What do the other acronyms mean?

AM = Agent Millions - s/he is the one who will visit the Million winner (me) to give the good news in person.

LIST = is a list that's published of the high value winners and @Blondeshavemorefun kindly posts a link to it when NS&I release it.

APP = there are 2 apps. One is a sort of admin one which allows you to look at your bonds, see if they've won, buy etc. The other one is- which most of us have - is one you click on and it immediately tells you you have 'won' (or not). Typically has some champagne, smiley lady, child eating ice cream or similar! It's an immediate ratification type of app.

Good luck!

DrMadelineMaxwell · 28/02/2025 09:27

I'm already schrodinger's millionaire according to my friend as I've been away for a few days. First day of arrival and I get a national lottery email saying I've won a prize. But you have to be in the UK to sign in. So I've been having a lovely time thinking of how I will spend my millions - which in reality is prob just £5.

At least I know I'll be back home in time for AM!

MonkeyTennis34 · 28/02/2025 11:45

Thanks @JellyBeanFactory

I like the sound of the app which tells if I've won....or not!

What's it called and is it free?

happinessischocolate · 28/02/2025 11:50

MonkeyTennis34 · 28/02/2025 11:45

Thanks @JellyBeanFactory

I like the sound of the app which tells if I've won....or not!

What's it called and is it free?

NS&I prize checker

MonkeyTennis34 · 28/02/2025 15:50

Strange....I just downloaded the above app and it's telling me I won £225 in February when I'm pretty sure it was £100.

Is the £225 the amount for the whole year (2025) ?

MonkeyTennis34 · 28/02/2025 15:55

Sorry, it WAS £225 but for some reason I told DH it was £100??

DrMadelineMaxwell · 28/02/2025 17:09

Well I won £20 not millions on the lottery.

Better put the vacuum around and buy some nice biscuits for AM.

Blondeshavemorefun · 28/02/2025 17:35

Thanks @JellyBeanFactory

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BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 28/02/2025 19:35

Only a few hours left now if anyone intends to buy any PBs to be eligible for next month's draw (beginning of April). Minimum is £25 and maximum £50k.

EightSteps · 28/02/2025 20:20

Hi,
Are you sure that any bonds bought today will be in April's draw? I've read on here that you have to buy by the 28th, but is that true if there are only 28 days in the month? I assumed that the 28th was to allow the funds to clear by the 30rh/31st. Can anyone clarify?

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 28/02/2025 21:26

I have always added funds for PBs on the last day of the month and sometimes very late in the evening too - so the 28th this month, the 31st last month and so on - and they have always been on time to be eligible for the next month's draw @EightSteps . I pay by faster/direct transfer online from my bank. I don't know if it is slower with some banks, particularly building societies, or if paying by debit card.

Feelinglucky2025 · 28/02/2025 21:33

I have topped up mine and my children’s this evening which did confirm while doing so that they would be eligible for the April draw.

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