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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Happiestathome · 11/02/2025 14:45

@JollyHostess101 there will be people set against using children’s bond allocations, but also plenty of people who do it. It’s personal choice. Ultimately it’s all for their future anyway. You are making the most of family money that she will benefit from.

JollyHostess101 · 11/02/2025 14:48

Happiestathome · 11/02/2025 14:45

@JollyHostess101 there will be people set against using children’s bond allocations, but also plenty of people who do it. It’s personal choice. Ultimately it’s all for their future anyway. You are making the most of family money that she will benefit from.

I made my husband resurrect his account with £10 in it.... funnily enough that £10 has won nothing in 48 years 🤣

Phase2 · 11/02/2025 15:28

Happiestathome · 11/02/2025 14:45

@JollyHostess101 there will be people set against using children’s bond allocations, but also plenty of people who do it. It’s personal choice. Ultimately it’s all for their future anyway. You are making the most of family money that she will benefit from.

It's just another loophole for wealthy people isn't it. You can't stop people doing it.

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/02/2025 16:14

I guess those who have kids accounts so it as theirs has £50k in it

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Phase2 · 11/02/2025 16:26

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/02/2025 16:14

I guess those who have kids accounts so it as theirs has £50k in it

Yes exactly, way to save excess capital

JollyHostess101 · 11/02/2025 22:14

Happiestathome · 11/02/2025 14:45

@JollyHostess101 there will be people set against using children’s bond allocations, but also plenty of people who do it. It’s personal choice. Ultimately it’s all for their future anyway. You are making the most of family money that she will benefit from.

It probably would have been easier than getting DH to sort his out but I just thought it would muddy the waters so to speak as what if (if only) it got a massive win!

I'll probably just intercept her post in 14 years time and not tell her 🤣 I'm sure that's what my folks did with my savings account I wasn't allowed until 22 🤣🤷‍♀️🤣

ExitPursuedByABare · 16/02/2025 12:30

Has anyone who still receives cheques got them yet?

FishPie2 · 16/02/2025 14:14

I haven't had my winnings for Feb paid into the bank yet - rang up and asked about it and was told it could be paid anytime up to the end of the month. Can't send them all out together was a comment.
First time I have ever not been paid out before the date gets into double figures. Is anybody else still waiting?

IDareSay · 16/02/2025 14:25

My winnings arrived in my bank on the 10th February, which is roughly what I expected.

"Can't send them all out together" does seem to be a strange comment.

1975wasthebest · 16/02/2025 14:27

I’m debating whether to buy £50 worth of PB’s. Every little bit helps, doesn’t it.

ExitPursuedByABare · 16/02/2025 15:53

Mine are in the bank. Hoping DD’s cheque arrives in the post tomorrow before she returns home.

JellyBeanFactory · 16/02/2025 16:20

1975wasthebest · 16/02/2025 14:27

I’m debating whether to buy £50 worth of PB’s. Every little bit helps, doesn’t it.

It certainly does and if you can add £50 regularly, it'll soon amount up. And of course, there's the chance of a big prize!

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/02/2025 17:06

JellyBeanFactory · 16/02/2025 16:20

It certainly does and if you can add £50 regularly, it'll soon amount up. And of course, there's the chance of a big prize!

Do it. I buy for dh grandson and he’s won £25 on £50

so can happen

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BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 16/02/2025 17:10

Only 2 weeks to go now until Millionaire Shortbread Day for 2 very lucky people.

Becs86 · 16/02/2025 17:26

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/02/2025 17:06

Do it. I buy for dh grandson and he’s won £25 on £50

so can happen

Yes, my son won £25 on just £100 pretty soon after buying the bonds (nothing since though/ in the last 4 years!)

PremiumPrizesPlease · 16/02/2025 18:21

I really hope I win something next month I'm trying to keep the faith but rather jaded so far. £1000 would be lovely 😍

Hippywannabe · 16/02/2025 19:35

Currently on my holiday which was paid for completely by one year's worth of wins.
I have booked already for this time next year!

CaveMum · 18/02/2025 12:11

PB rate is being cut, again! From 4% down to 3.8%.

https://moneyweek.com/personal-finance/premium-bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut

1975wasthebest · 18/02/2025 12:24

CaveMum · 18/02/2025 12:11

PB rate is being cut, again! From 4% down to 3.8%.

https://moneyweek.com/personal-finance/premium-bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut

Edited

Great 🙁So yet again the only prize that increases in quantity is the piddling £25 one.

I wish they'd divide the bigger prizes e.g instead of 78 winners of £100K there were 156 winners of £50K.

AllRevvedUpWithNoPlaceToGo · 18/02/2025 13:35

CaveMum · 18/02/2025 12:11

PB rate is being cut, again! From 4% down to 3.8%.

https://moneyweek.com/personal-finance/premium-bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut

Edited

Inevitable, but frustrating as a saver who loves their PB! ☹️

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 18/02/2025 13:35

Thanks CaveMum. So that means there will be less prizes from £100k to £50 from the April draw. There will still be two £1m prizes and 362988 more £25 prizes. The old cynic in me suspects that all the £25 prizes are so that more people think 'oh, at least I've won something this month' and will be less likely to withdraw all or some funds.

I'm not sure about the idea of reducing the number of £100k prizes and increasing the number of £50k ones 1975wasthebest. The estimate for April is 78 x £100k and 157 x £50k. I certainly think the EuroMillions and Lotto jackpots can be far too big. It would be much better to cap those prizes and have far more people winning £1m to £5m. It seems such a waste of opportunity to have one person winning ridiculously huge and unnecessary amounts like £65m, £83.4m, £177m, £184m or £195m. It seems a bit distasteful to me when so many people spend their money on a ticket forever hoping and praying for a very much smaller and probably more positive lifechanging amount.

Two weeks today, all the March results will be in and the PB rollercoaster will be silent for another month.🎢

Happiestathome · 18/02/2025 15:45

CaveMum · 18/02/2025 12:11

PB rate is being cut, again! From 4% down to 3.8%.

https://moneyweek.com/personal-finance/premium-bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut

Edited

I’m really glad I just sat down with a piece of chocolate cake when opening up the thread to this news. Softens the blow. Sad to see savings rates on the decline again.

Blondeshavemorefun · 18/02/2025 18:32

1975wasthebest · 18/02/2025 12:24

Great 🙁So yet again the only prize that increases in quantity is the piddling £25 one.

I wish they'd divide the bigger prizes e.g instead of 78 winners of £100K there were 156 winners of £50K.

Ahhhhhh not again but if bank rates go down we go down

yes be lovely to win £50k and have more smaller wins

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chuffincold · 19/02/2025 17:19

Nice surprise of a £50 cheque off Ernie when I got home today.
£250 investment in 2013 occasional small cheques (last one was £50 in November)
I haven't got the app or look anything up

1975wasthebest · 23/02/2025 11:48

Just one week to go now until AM hopefully visits some of us.

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