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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Countrylife2002 · 08/02/2025 22:29

RockaLock · 07/02/2025 09:32

I don't think anyone really minds people posting details of savings accounts with good interest rates. Like a PP said, it's good to hear about alternatives.

It's more the posters that pop up from time to time telling us how foolish we are for having PBs and don't we know we should be maxing ISAs and pensions first, like we are all silly women who couldn't possibly understand finances.

Like a lots of people have said, a few hundred pounds lost in interest is neither here nor there, really - for some of us it's worthwhile in order to have the opportunity to win big.

Thanks to a £1,000 win last year my overall PB rate was c7.6%. Tax free. Even without the £1k it would have been c4.8%. Which seems pretty reasonable to me 🤷‍♀️

Agree completely. I only have £500 which is all my savings. As a single parent, I’d rather the (remote) chance I could win big and change DD’s life than a few pounds interest here and there.

JollyHostess101 · 09/02/2025 08:32

Sorry not a PB question but I'm hoping some do you will know the answer 🤞

I'm going to have to pay tax on my savings interest after an inheritance I wasn't working but I am now does anyone know when they'll alter my tax code to pay it?!

I'm so clueless but I don't want to fall foul of HMRC- if I started my job too late for a tax code change will they ask for the money?

ExitPursuedByABare · 09/02/2025 09:43

Watching with interest. I never declared my savings on my tax return. Financial adviser filled it in and he knew about my savings. 🤷‍♀️.

I haven’t paid tax for a few years as my income falls below the threshold. But I receive my state pension soon and I’ve no idea what will transpire.

JollyHostess101 · 09/02/2025 10:01

ExitPursuedByABare · 09/02/2025 09:43

Watching with interest. I never declared my savings on my tax return. Financial adviser filled it in and he knew about my savings. 🤷‍♀️.

I haven’t paid tax for a few years as my income falls below the threshold. But I receive my state pension soon and I’ve no idea what will transpire.

I think the banks tell HMRC anyway I wasn't planning on working until little one started school so they'd just send me the bill but I found my dream job so now I'm a bit confused and can't seem to get through to them on the phone!!

1975wasthebest · 09/02/2025 10:10

The banks are legally required to tell HMRC about the interest accrued in savings accounts, so the change of tax code is automatic but I don’t know how it works with the state pension.

Negroany · 09/02/2025 14:38

ExitPursuedByABare · 09/02/2025 09:43

Watching with interest. I never declared my savings on my tax return. Financial adviser filled it in and he knew about my savings. 🤷‍♀️.

I haven’t paid tax for a few years as my income falls below the threshold. But I receive my state pension soon and I’ve no idea what will transpire.

I wouldn't trust a financial advisor to do your tax return, you need an accountant if it's too complex to do yourself.

@JollyHostess101 not sure they do alter it in year, they just send you a tax demand, but it will be after the end of the tax year. You can self report on a form, not sure which one it is, after the end of the tax year.

They might then predict the next year and alter it again that point.

Banks report it too I think.

Lifeisgood1 · 09/02/2025 15:14

My mum gave me my premium bonds slip years ago and I shoved it in a folder. Found it the other day and contacted them to see if I have any winnings. It's 45 years old so I'm hopeful!

JollyHostess101 · 09/02/2025 15:15

@Negroany thank you I didn't know if it would be now or end of tax year! Not really sure why Im worrying I'm sure HMRC won't be backwards in coming forwards to ask me for it 🤣 I just don't want to do anything wrong

MonkeyTennis34 · 09/02/2025 15:55

@Lifeisgood1
Oohh, how exciting! Keep us posted.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/02/2025 19:51

Lifeisgood1 · 09/02/2025 15:14

My mum gave me my premium bonds slip years ago and I shoved it in a folder. Found it the other day and contacted them to see if I have any winnings. It's 45 years old so I'm hopeful!

You never know

how many ?

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DogPawsMud · 10/02/2025 18:31

Posting a warning for anyone who has premium bonds accounts for their children....
I strongly recommend you close them before their 16th birthday - we have lost all access to my child's account and despite several calls (including with my child on the phone too) and a letter by post and submitting details online, we have been unable to resolve it. It's a "computer says no" type hell. I have no confidence in the transfer process.
Hopefully it will get resolved eventually but I would not wish to go through this again - will be closing the account for my younger one.

Happiestathome · 10/02/2025 19:38

@DogPawsMud sorry to hear that it’s been a nightmare. When we did my daughter’s it was straightforward, . Hopefully it’s not a common problem. I can no longer see them, but she can log in herself.

JollyHostess101 · 10/02/2025 19:47

DogPawsMud · 10/02/2025 18:31

Posting a warning for anyone who has premium bonds accounts for their children....
I strongly recommend you close them before their 16th birthday - we have lost all access to my child's account and despite several calls (including with my child on the phone too) and a letter by post and submitting details online, we have been unable to resolve it. It's a "computer says no" type hell. I have no confidence in the transfer process.
Hopefully it will get resolved eventually but I would not wish to go through this again - will be closing the account for my younger one.

Can you not just keep logging in as her so to speak? I presumed that's what we'd do ever fault and just not give her the log ins until she was 18?!

JollyHostess101 · 10/02/2025 19:48

@DogPawsMud

I'll try that again as I can't edit in the app 🤦🏻‍♀️

Can you not just keep logging in as her so to speak? I presumed that's what we'd do eventually and just not give her the log ins until she was 18?!

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/02/2025 19:58

I have heard this before

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Heylittlesongbird · 10/02/2025 20:11

We just had the 16 year old thing. But, when we moved house I changed my address but thought my children's address would change automatically as part of mine. Afterall, their investment records came here and any winning letters were sent here.

But, when it came to write to my daughter they sent it to our old address, so I'd recommend making sure you change them all if you move.

However, we just filled in the form on the website, got her signature witnessed by her teacher and sent it off. It came back relatively quickly and was very straight forward. It sounds like you've been unlucky, but if her bonds have come up she will still get any prizes.

You can't log in as her, when my daughter got to 16 her details disappeared from my parent account.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/02/2025 21:35

So you need to get a signature of someone who knows her to be able to Turn account over

def sound easier to move move money into an account then to rebuy at 16

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Heylittlesongbird · 10/02/2025 22:45

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/02/2025 21:35

So you need to get a signature of someone who knows her to be able to Turn account over

def sound easier to move move money into an account then to rebuy at 16

I think it’s because they don’t have her signature on file, so she needed someone who knew her to witness it.

DogPawsMud · 11/02/2025 12:29

I think it's been extra extra complicated for us as we no longer live in the UK.
So hopefully not as bad for most people.

We sent all the paperwork with witnessed signatures etc.
My main worry was that the account would be hacked, as it's been a few months with no means of accessing it at all. Not via the phone, nothing.
Honestly, it's been a complete nightmare!

Another thing that wasn't obvious to me is that the 16 year old needs their own UK bank account to be able to withdraw or receive the cash prizes.. This is proving impossible for us as we don't have a UK address anymore, but for everyone else, worth opening a regular current account if your child doesn't already have one.

DogPawsMud · 11/02/2025 12:31

JollyHostess101 · 10/02/2025 19:48

@DogPawsMud

I'll try that again as I can't edit in the app 🤦🏻‍♀️

Can you not just keep logging in as her so to speak? I presumed that's what we'd do eventually and just not give her the log ins until she was 18?!

Even if you manage to do that (which will mean intercepting post or getting your child's consent?!) you won't be able to withdraw funds to any account other than a personal account in your child's name.

GreatSign · 11/02/2025 12:43

We did it recently and it was such a pain. Our issue was finding someone to witness her signature - I hadn’t thought of using a teacher. And the website was glitchy so there was an issue with telephone numbers. If anything goes wrong you have to get the 16 year olds to phone. And, something to be aware of, even if you choose to reinvest, you have to give the 16 year olds bank account details. In case of a big win. I’m not quite sure what I think about a big win appearing in her bank account!

JollyHostess101 · 11/02/2025 12:49

@DogPawsMud i just presumed it would be in their name but we'd still "manage it" or they don't actually get the passwords and stuff until whatever age we decided..... does sound like a pain!

I'll have to ask my SIl what they've done as nephew was 16 last year!!

Imagine winning the million at 16 😱

DogPawsMud · 11/02/2025 13:32

Exactly! Legally the winning are theirs. Bit of a minefield.

Happiestathome · 11/02/2025 13:38

You can remove the funds before they turn 16, but it’s worth noting that the teen can see the history of what was previously in there once they take over.

I withdrew the bulk of the money as I didn’t want my daughter to access it so early, but I did tell her, so the bond record has been no surprise to her.

JollyHostess101 · 11/02/2025 14:20

Happiestathome · 11/02/2025 13:38

You can remove the funds before they turn 16, but it’s worth noting that the teen can see the history of what was previously in there once they take over.

I withdrew the bulk of the money as I didn’t want my daughter to access it so early, but I did tell her, so the bond record has been no surprise to her.

I suppose you could pop it back in if you wanted to before it gave her access?

16 just sounds so young to be given access to it?

My friend said to whack some of my inheritance into my little girls account while we decide what to do with it as its tax free but I'd feel bad if she saw the old balance 🤣

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