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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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ExitPursuedByABare · 04/02/2025 07:01

£300 on FH after 2 dry months.
£100 for DD on £1.5k. She’s delighted.

PrioritisePleasure24 · 04/02/2025 07:01

WellsAndThistles · 03/02/2025 23:14

You've had amazing beginners luck to be honest. I fear if you buy £5K you might end up with a huge amount of disappointment. With average luck, you need between £25k and £30k to beat normal savings. Personally, I prioritise my ISA 1st, tax free with guaranteed interest then anything left goes into PB.

I’ve just over 4k and i won’t £200 in two months last year then nothing for a year… @Blondeshavemorefun has more luck than me on similar but you did really well on £100. There’s no guarantees you will get that again. It depends on how much you want the interest.

kiraric · 04/02/2025 07:02

Absolutely nothing for me yet again! So I finish on 0.25% for the year on 10k.

Pulling mine out today. Will still use it as a place to stash money for my self assessment bill etc but not as much as I have had in this year

fantasticoplastico · 04/02/2025 07:05

£75 here.

Summervibes24 · 04/02/2025 07:19

£300 for me on 2 x FH.

1975wasthebest · 04/02/2025 07:19

Nothing for me on £4K.

TubeScreamer · 04/02/2025 07:20

0 on FH. Very disappointing

dcs 0 on a few thousand each

schoolfeeslave · 04/02/2025 07:21

Nothing, again, on almost FH. Two months in the past year has been zero and my biggest win has been £250. I total £675 for the year which is less than 2%.

Pretty disappointed tbh. I am using PBs as I pay 40% tax on interest but I think I am out now as the return has been less than a savings account interest rate less the tax.

Rhumba · 04/02/2025 07:23

Best ever result for me £225 on 40K. Pleased after 0 last month but ave for year is about 2.5% if that. 🤔

NotTheFreudYoureLookingFor · 04/02/2025 07:23

Zero on FH

RoseBliss · 04/02/2025 07:26

Not a good start to the year for me on FH - nothing last month and £75 this month. Roll on March!

DH also on FH has done a bit better with £125.

Spaceracers · 04/02/2025 07:28

£25 on FH.

It's my lowest win in about 12 months so I've had a pretty good streak, not big wins but consistent. Wasted a lot of yesterday planning on what I would do with £10k, £1k etc. oh well!

Sallyingon · 04/02/2025 07:30

0 for me on 6k
0 for DS1 on £11k
0 for DS2 on 10k

Id thought Ds2 might have been on the big winners list. He wasn't

Parratha · 04/02/2025 07:34

£50 on circa £45k

WeAreBorg · 04/02/2025 07:34

£100 on around £30K
Better than my usual zero pounds I guess

Isitaproblemyes · 04/02/2025 07:37

£250 over 5 prizes on £47.5k.
Happy with that!

bobby81 · 04/02/2025 07:38

£75 on FH for me. At least it’s something….. I’d got used to a lot more though & now that’s what I expect every month 😂

Phase2 · 04/02/2025 07:39

0 on £11000 but disappointing

Tworedgeraniums · 04/02/2025 07:43

I really thought I’d win something this month. October was my last win, I’ve got a reasonably large amount in bonds too.

if I don’t win next month I think I’ll remove a big chunk back into savings. 🙁

CaveMum · 04/02/2025 07:54

£125 for me and £50 for DH both on FH. Better than last month when I got big fat £0 and DH got £25, but not great.

Congrats to everyone with good wins and just remember, it’s the shortest month!

Bittercup · 04/02/2025 07:59

£50 on 6k. Happy with that, but the best part is that the winning bond came from a batch I bought in December, so first month eligible.

GreatSign · 04/02/2025 07:59

After I got zero last month on FH was hoping for a good win. £25. My ROI for the past 6 months is 0.55%! And interestingly 60% of my winnings are on 1 £10000 block of bonds

hellswelshy · 04/02/2025 08:01

£500 here on 12,300 holdings! Chuffed to bits!!

MillyVannily · 04/02/2025 08:04

£175 on almost FH. I'm moving half into savings as this is the highest in 6 months and my average is less than 2%.

gettingolderbutcooler · 04/02/2025 08:08

£150 on £36k
£150 on £12k

Was SURE I was a big winner this month 😩

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