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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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kiraric · 01/02/2025 08:44

I am giving PBs one last try..

Feel like I had awful luck - £10k in for the last year and only £25 won!

I am going to withdraw after the next draw

Phase2 · 01/02/2025 08:46

kiraric · 01/02/2025 08:44

I am giving PBs one last try..

Feel like I had awful luck - £10k in for the last year and only £25 won!

I am going to withdraw after the next draw

That's really rotten luck.

1975wasthebest · 01/02/2025 08:52

@littleblackcat247 You won’t know if you’ve won £1K or more until Monday.

littleblackcat247 · 01/02/2025 09:10

@1975wasthebest - very true - subconciously I'm thinking the big one - ie visit from Agent Millionaire tomorrow Grin

Could I add that 1975 was a great year for music, but 1964 was the best year to be born..

DaydreamerBetty · 01/02/2025 09:52

Good luck everyone for February’s draw.
Four blank months for me so I’m hoping to break that pattern.
I would change my user name if I was lucky enough to win the biggie to
DaydreamerBetty’sdreamcometrue 🤣

kiraric · 01/02/2025 10:08

Phase2 · 01/02/2025 08:46

That's really rotten luck.

Yeah.

I do realise it's just the way probability works but I have a bit of space in my ISA allowance this year so it just makes more sense

1975wasthebest · 01/02/2025 10:23

A £10K holding will generate a total of £325 in prize wins over 12 months (with average luck).

kiraric · 01/02/2025 10:30

1975wasthebest · 01/02/2025 10:23

A £10K holding will generate a total of £325 in prize wins over 12 months (with average luck).

Indeed. I clearly have much much worse than average luck!

Unless I am about to win big..

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/02/2025 10:47

Phase2 · 01/02/2025 08:23

I wonder if there's a restriction on it, like you aren't allowed to talk about what happens?

They prob advise you to say nothing for a few weeks + to get head round it

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YetAgainAgain · 01/02/2025 10:53

A £25 win for me last month & I have less in there for this draw so not holding out much hope! It’s such a rollercoaster on the days leading up to the draw though!

LadyLucksalot · 01/02/2025 11:03

I'm going to bake some Lucky Buns tomorrow.

If I win big, hurrah! If I win moderately, thank you! If I win something small, yippee! If I win nothing at all, at least I have a tin of little cakes to enjoy.

Wrapunzel · 01/02/2025 11:53

Bumcake · 31/01/2025 23:17

I’m not sure how to embellish a bumcake, but I’d still really love to win. I’m emotionally ready to retire and I’ve found the perfect house in Eastbourne.

Please rename as EmbellishedBumcake Grin

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 01/02/2025 12:29

Bumcake · 31/01/2025 23:17

I’m not sure how to embellish a bumcake, but I’d still really love to win. I’m emotionally ready to retire and I’ve found the perfect house in Eastbourne.

RichBumcake, Bumcakedincash or, my own personal favourite as it says it all, Bumcakeineastbourne.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 01/02/2025 12:35

Phase2 · 01/02/2025 08:23

I wonder if there's a restriction on it, like you aren't allowed to talk about what happens?

Perhaps you have to sign an agreement not to disclose the AM's identity or the AM process for security reasons.

Heylittlesongbird · 01/02/2025 12:48

Phase2 · 01/02/2025 08:23

I wonder if there's a restriction on it, like you aren't allowed to talk about what happens?

With 2 people winning the £1 million each month it does seem strange that there is so little known about how the notification process really works. So it would make sense if you have to sign some sort of NDA - i.e. if you want you can tell people you've won, but you can't disclose the process?

I love the idea of Agent Million turning up, but surely they can't just rock up unannounced? So I think some contact must be made first to check you're around. I think a phone call would be too easy for people to replicate and defraud people, so I would guess that you get a secure email asking you to make contact?

I really overthink this at this time of the month. Had an unknown Manchester number ring this morning and was googling if NS&I have their offices there 😂

ChessieFL · 01/02/2025 13:01

According to this they do just turn up unannounced and try a few times that day/the following day if you’re not in. Then they leave a letter.

And they do tell winners not to tell anyone!

www.thesun.co.uk/money/26771914/premium-bonds-undercover-worker-tell-people-won-1milllion/amp/

Phase2 · 01/02/2025 13:04

Yes I think they must tell you not to talk about the visit. Otherwise by now we would have loads of stories surely even anonymously .

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/02/2025 14:42

So once they knock and it’s the day before first working day of month and you open the door and they ask to speak to blondes and you show then id

do they then say I’m from pb

you would then know you’ve won a million as no other reason a pb person is going to come knocking

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HowdoyoureallyKnow · 01/02/2025 17:30

Checking in good luck everyone

h0rsewithn0name · 01/02/2025 18:54

When I win a million, I will be h0rsewithnewidentity!

TheWeeDonkeyFella · 01/02/2025 19:21

ooh, exciting to find a pre bonds thread! I've held £100 for years and never won a penny but just increased my holdings so fingers crossed for better luck going forward.

Its been interesting reading about AM - I didn't know that's how it worked. If AM does come calling, I guess I'll be TheWeeDonkeyRockafella!

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/02/2025 19:54

TheWeeDonkeyFella · 01/02/2025 19:21

ooh, exciting to find a pre bonds thread! I've held £100 for years and never won a penny but just increased my holdings so fingers crossed for better luck going forward.

Its been interesting reading about AM - I didn't know that's how it worked. If AM does come calling, I guess I'll be TheWeeDonkeyRockafella!

I’ve done these threads for years 😂

you’ve never seen ?

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Thingsthatgo · 01/02/2025 19:59

When I win the £1m I'll change my names to ThingthatgowithmyJimmyChoos Grin

TheWeeDonkeyFella · 01/02/2025 20:58

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/02/2025 19:54

I’ve done these threads for years 😂

you’ve never seen ?

No but will be following along with keen interest now!

I've never really paid much attention previously with having a minimum amount (and even lost access to my account for a while and NS&I were very unhelpful when I tried to sort out during lockdown so I sort of forgot about them for a while too). All the monthly draws I've missed the thread giddiness of!

Baggyprincess · 01/02/2025 21:01

We can dream! Think I’d become MoneyBaggyPrincess!

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