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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Q2C4 · 03/01/2025 07:15

@Blondeshavemorefun sorry if this is a dim question, but on the xls, what does value of the bond column indicate? I thought that each bond notional value was £1, and bonds could be purchased in multiples of £25? There is no guarantees interest rate, and each bond has the same chance of winning, so what causes the bond value to be more than £1? Thanks!

blitzen · 03/01/2025 07:20

Nothing for me on around £27k

This is the first month I think that's ever happened!

user9086572 · 03/01/2025 07:21

dcadmamagain · 03/01/2025 00:03

You know in the app prize checker you can add other people so you can check their results?

Oh I didn’t! Thank you

paranoidnamechanger · 03/01/2025 07:24

Zero on £5K. I’ve won nothing in 12 months of 14, which makes me feel a bit foolish when I think about it. So I need to ramp up my investing.

froggybiby · 03/01/2025 07:26

Q2C4 · 03/01/2025 07:15

@Blondeshavemorefun sorry if this is a dim question, but on the xls, what does value of the bond column indicate? I thought that each bond notional value was £1, and bonds could be purchased in multiples of £25? There is no guarantees interest rate, and each bond has the same chance of winning, so what causes the bond value to be more than £1? Thanks!

You can buy any amount (up to maximum holding) from £25. £25 is the minimum. The value is how much you bought at the time so £25 would be 25 for the value, £500, 500...good luck.

InMySpareTime · 03/01/2025 07:26

Nothing on £10k

Autumnpumpkin · 03/01/2025 07:31

Nothing for us, it’s our second month in with just over £18k. Won £50 last month…happy for others that have won but feeling a bit disappointed to have not won anything.

ScouserInExile · 03/01/2025 07:33

2 x £50 this month from a total holding of £15,350.

I won £75 last month as well so am pretty happy with that. I had invested £2,000 recently, but before last month I'd never won more than £25.

daisychain01 · 03/01/2025 07:41

£250 for me (as £25 £25 £100 £100) on FH
DH got £0 this month - last month he won and I didn't but he gets my winnings as I'm up to full holdings and he is at £27k holdings so working towards FH for him too. Only a few more decades to go, at this rate Grin

chimichangaz · 03/01/2025 07:43

Nothing for me on £1200 but I won £100 last month and won £25 in August. Only started investing in May with £500, adding about £100 per month so I’m pleased so far. Have put a chunk of £11k in December so hoping for another win in Feb. Have set to reinvest from the beginning.

I love hearing about the winners with small holdings!! Gives hope!

ScarlettSunset · 03/01/2025 07:44

Nothing for me this month. 2nd month in a row. Will have a bit more in the next draw so hopefully will be a February winner.
Well done to all the winners!

Spaceracers · 03/01/2025 07:45

£150 on full holdings - ok ish.

Wolfcub · 03/01/2025 07:47

£100 for me, I was convinced it was going to be another no win month. Congratulations to all the winners on the thread, good to see lots of £500 and more

TyreChangeLightOn · 03/01/2025 07:48

Nothing on £30k. Feeling aggrieved!

IDareSay · 03/01/2025 07:50

£75 for me, £25 for DH both on FH. Same in total as December when DH got £100 and I got nowt 😄

Our return for 2024 was just above the amount we would have received in a decent savings account so I’m happy to keep going in the hope we can do as well this year (and the chance of a big win of course).

MonkeyTennis34 · 03/01/2025 07:55

£100 here, £225 last month on £30K holding.

Our biggest win was £750 on £32K holding.

MonkeyTennis34 · 03/01/2025 07:57

My Auntie had the maximum holding for years and was always aggrieved when a millions winner had £100 holding 🤣

Not sure if it's still the case, but they used to state the 2 million pound winners' holdings and home towns.

Sallyingon · 03/01/2025 08:02

0 for me on 5k
0 for DS1 on 11k
0 for Ds2 on 10k

A poor start to the year! DS1 hasn't had a win for 9 months now and DS2 has just started and we were hoping for some beginners luck.

Phase2 · 03/01/2025 08:06

MonkeyTennis34 · 03/01/2025 07:57

My Auntie had the maximum holding for years and was always aggrieved when a millions winner had £100 holding 🤣

Not sure if it's still the case, but they used to state the 2 million pound winners' holdings and home towns.

I'm with your aunt 🤣

leafybrew · 03/01/2025 08:10

£50 win on 36k holding.

Whyherewego · 03/01/2025 08:12

£200 on FH which is pretty good given I won £1k a few months ago

DeathWinsAGolfish · 03/01/2025 08:15

£100 for me on FH, £125 for DH on FH, daughters not yet declared.

MillyVannily · 03/01/2025 08:17

£150 on almost FH ... it's ok i guess. I will be moving half of the money to ISA in April as my average is around 2% on PB which is too little.

bobby81 · 03/01/2025 08:18

£250 on FH. Pleased with that.
Good luck everyone, I love this thread & hearing about all the wins!

Rainbow321 · 03/01/2025 08:28

£100 on fh.

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