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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Whatthetrolley · 01/01/2025 23:55

ThisOldThang · 01/01/2025 22:13

Yes. That's what I'm trying to avoid.

I will buy the new bonds and then redeem the old bonds once the new ones go live.

Once my main account is below a full holding the prizes can be used to buy new books without a delay in my main account.

I think there's an optimal date to buy bonds in terms of NS&I having the money for the last amount of time before you're in the draw.

I bought some PBs on 31st Dec, about 6pm and they will be available for the February draw.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 00:07

First draw of 2025

Jan

Good luck all

www.nsandi.com/files/asset/xlsx/prize-january-2025.xlsx

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BibbityBobbityToo · 02/01/2025 00:15

Oh well, another disappointment!

TheOneWithUnagi · 02/01/2025 00:15

One of the millionaires only purchased their bonds in November 2024... lucky!

nettie434 · 02/01/2025 00:25

Bimblesalong · 01/01/2025 19:55

There are enough £100 000 prizes for everyone on the thread to have one each 😀

Edited

That is such a lovely thought! Imagine no-one being disappointed.

I know a win would really help you @Bimblesalong. Best wishes for the next round of treatment too. Hoping everyone who really could do with a win gets something this month!

I won't check the big winners tonight. I'm waiting until the 3rd when there is more chance of winning.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 00:43

BibbityBobbityToo · 02/01/2025 00:15

Oh well, another disappointment!

Same. Some HV from round my way, but definitely not me. I'll just have to dream.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 00:52

I did get excited. Thought I had possibly won £5k

The total amount was similar to mine if I had won the £5k

But then checked which bond won and I then checked blue app but I didn't deposit that amount that month 🥲

So wasn't me

Which means I have to ask again and know I have a few times

Does the list show the total amount in including winnings?

To make it easy

Say I had £10k (I wish lol) but won £5k

Would the total holdings be £10k or £15k on list

So as usual go from what if won £100k to tomorrow and grateful if win £25

😂😂😂

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MyrtleStrumpet · 02/01/2025 00:56

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 00:52

I did get excited. Thought I had possibly won £5k

The total amount was similar to mine if I had won the £5k

But then checked which bond won and I then checked blue app but I didn't deposit that amount that month 🥲

So wasn't me

Which means I have to ask again and know I have a few times

Does the list show the total amount in including winnings?

To make it easy

Say I had £10k (I wish lol) but won £5k

Would the total holdings be £10k or £15k on list

So as usual go from what if won £100k to tomorrow and grateful if win £25

😂😂😂

I think the total amount must be net of winnings because otherwise the ones winning more than £50k would show total holdings above £50k. Also the money isn't reinvested until the next draw.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 00:56

A few small holders winning which always make me 😀

Cambridge for £20. 1970 for £3 so prob when Born like I had some

So a 55yr is going to be very happy to win £10k

Wonder if t rh actually know remember getting some as seems to me so weird that they don't increase then to a couple of hundred /few grand - obv depending on their financial issues - they may not be able to save few pounds a month

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 00:59

@MyrtleStrumpet tho they can't have more than £50k so will go to their designated bank account

Sure someone won a while back on here and answered it and said was full amount. Hence I got all excited

Tho

Saying that , that wouldn't work for the £20 winner as total would be £ 10 020

Think I have answers my own question

😂😂😂

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Baggyprincess · 02/01/2025 01:16

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 00:52

I did get excited. Thought I had possibly won £5k

The total amount was similar to mine if I had won the £5k

But then checked which bond won and I then checked blue app but I didn't deposit that amount that month 🥲

So wasn't me

Which means I have to ask again and know I have a few times

Does the list show the total amount in including winnings?

To make it easy

Say I had £10k (I wish lol) but won £5k

Would the total holdings be £10k or £15k on list

So as usual go from what if won £100k to tomorrow and grateful if win £25

😂😂😂

I might be misunderstanding the question. My nderstanind is - The list shows total holdings and the value of the bond that won, both not including that month’s winnings.

PremiumPrizesPlease · 02/01/2025 01:54

No luck this time. Boo hiss. Hope others have better luck!

whatsthatbloodycatdonenow · 02/01/2025 03:26

no luck for me but very excited to see that AM would have been visiting the area I live in! Hoping that it will be someone I know 😂

crossing fingers for a small win now for myself and my son.

ChanelBoucle · 02/01/2025 05:04

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 00:52

I did get excited. Thought I had possibly won £5k

The total amount was similar to mine if I had won the £5k

But then checked which bond won and I then checked blue app but I didn't deposit that amount that month 🥲

So wasn't me

Which means I have to ask again and know I have a few times

Does the list show the total amount in including winnings?

To make it easy

Say I had £10k (I wish lol) but won £5k

Would the total holdings be £10k or £15k on list

So as usual go from what if won £100k to tomorrow and grateful if win £25

😂😂😂

Dd was on the list once.
it showed her total holdings, not including winnings. Also of interest was that the amount of holding shown included the money she had put in that month, so not the amount valid for that drawer, if that makes sense.

Bimblesalong · 02/01/2025 05:13

Thanks guys, thanks @nettie434 All being well I’ll be on a phased return to work (self employed) in just over three months. Thank goodness for nhs screenings and for science! Don’t think I’m on the big list but I might have accidentally skipped one so hope to be surprised on Friday 😀.

I’ve already made more on winnings than interest than in my best savings account this year on pbs and that’s without the tax savings so I count myself as doing ok. Hopefully the pb “luck” will continue and will also rub off on a non cancer recurrence!

Wolfcub · 02/01/2025 05:42

Nothing for me on the high winners list. I did check my total prizes for 2024 yesterday though as I've now been eligible for draws for a full year. £875 winnings over the year is pretty decent I think. I started my account with a low teens investment and it's still in the mid teens so I'm not a big value holder

fantasticoplastico · 02/01/2025 05:44

Not on the big list- I did see a family friend yesterday though who had won £3000 last month which was exciting.

RubbishDay · 02/01/2025 06:07

Good luck everyone checking the list.

I am waiting for tomorrow to check the app as I prefer to wait an extra day.

pinkfondu · 02/01/2025 06:48

Few big winners in my area but defo not me. I only check up to 50k so I can enjoy the app tomorrow.

Also saw £50k from £25, so possibly a reinvestment from a smaller prize, plus one from a £100 holding.

Jabbabong · 02/01/2025 07:20

fantasticoplastico · 02/01/2025 05:44

Not on the big list- I did see a family friend yesterday though who had won £3000 last month which was exciting.

Well done them. To win £1,000 in one month is very lucky to win 3x £1000 in a month must be almost unheard of.

I have decided not to check my alerts until the weekend to keep the £100k dream alive a bit longer.

ThisOldThang · 02/01/2025 07:24

No big prizes for me.

I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if I've won anything.

fantasticoplastico · 02/01/2025 07:26

I don't know what the prize breakdown was. She very kindly gave me some money when times were hard for me so I'm
delighted karmas come back to her.

Katieweasel · 02/01/2025 07:31

OMG I won £5k. Got all excited as I have an unusual amount and it was my county and I knew that I had bought a block of bonds of that value. Checked my account and it wasn't the correct month. Had a shower and then had a thought that the app shows when bonds are eligible and not when they are bought. So I checked again and the number matches! What a great start to the year!

fantasticoplastico · 02/01/2025 07:32

INCREDIBLE! I'm so glad the groups had a big new year win!

Shoobidowhop · 02/01/2025 07:33

I can check mine properly on the checker for January so no need to rely on the list
https://www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Absolutely nothing this month boo! I will buy some this month thanks to redundancy pay out

Prize Checker

Ready to see if you have won a prize? Enter your holder's number to check if you’ve won in this month’s Premium Bonds draw. Good luck!

https://www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

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