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Feel like we’re the only ones. Very lonely/scary

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Sickamore · 11/11/2024 07:37

Morning,

so I’ve had another rubbish night sleep worrying about our debts. We are in the process of trying to sort out an absolutely mountain of debt that we’ve racked up over the last decade. Some of it has been racked up due to things that were to unforeseen, however, some of it is also down, to us not communicating with each other properly and generally making poor financial decisions

The thing that I am most embarrassed about is that we are a professional couple with good jobs. People probably look at us and think that we are doing okay, however the real reality is so so different.

It’s all came to a head about a year ago when I discovered the extent of our debt.

I had stupidly delegated all of the financial stuff to my husband and had left him to get on with it. He had tried his best, however, he had this false sense of needing to protect me from reality and that meant that we didn’t attack the death as aggressively as we should have.

apart from the two of us, nobody in the real world knows how much we owe. We have told some family members and very close friends that we are cutting back but the reality is that on top of our mortgage we have 80 K worth of debt. this is spread across credit cards loans and overdrafts etc. I also owe my mum 12 K however she has told me that this can be put on the back burner for the time being as it’s not money that she needs back urgently. It is still a priority for me though.

When husband was managing the money, he dropped a few balls and made some late payments, this means that we struggle to get 0% deals at the moment and therefore we are paying quite a lot of interest on some of the debts.

Thankfully, we have a good income. My husband is a head teacher and I work in a senior role in the local authority. Our joint gross income is around 118 K. Thank God we have a decent income otherwise they would be totally Insurmountable

Since discovering how much we owed, I have taken charge of our finances. I still expect husband to be involved but I do the budget and work out what needs to be paid. At the moment I am following the snowball method where I am throwing the majority of the money at our highest interest debts. Once this is paid, I will move onto the next one. Everything else is paid at the minimum level during this process. This seems to be working for us at the moment and it is nice to see some of the balances going down.

The thing that I really struggle with is that we are a couple who earn well, in our 40s. We shouldn’t be in this position and when I look around everybody else seems to have made far better choices. I know that money and personal finance is somewhat of a taboo topic, and therefore none of us really know what’s going on in other peoples lives. on my worst days I just feel as though we are the only ones dealing with such a ridiculous level of debt. I know that comparing ourselves to others is pointless, but is anybody else dealing with similar circumstances to us? He feels so lonely at the moment.

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Rocknrollstar · 11/11/2024 07:40

I think you need to see a debt counsellor. There are ways of rolling all the debt into one so you aren’t paying so much interest. You also need to draw up a tight budget for the month and stick to it. Stop looking at other people too.

ClemmyTine · 11/11/2024 07:40

I don't have any advice unfortunately but do wish you well. However you're not on your own, I've seen many similar threads about debt from good earners.
Best of luck.

destiel00 · 11/11/2024 07:44

Well, if mn threads are anything to go by, you most certainly aren't alone.

Check out the forum on mse - very wise and helpful and from people who have been there.

Good luck.

Sickamore · 11/11/2024 07:45

Rocknrollstar · 11/11/2024 07:40

I think you need to see a debt counsellor. There are ways of rolling all the debt into one so you aren’t paying so much interest. You also need to draw up a tight budget for the month and stick to it. Stop looking at other people too.

Hi, we’ve done that. As we can afford the minimums we were advised against a DMP or an IVA. I’m budgeting very strictly now so that I can overpay as much as possible,

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Littleannoyingperson · 11/11/2024 07:45

Haven’t you posted this before?

Lifestooshort71 · 11/11/2024 07:45

No, you shouldn't be in this position but smacking yourselves with a big stick for the bad choices you've both made, won't make a difference nor will comparing yourself to others on far less money than you. You're getting to grips with it now which is all that matters so good luck! Out of interest, are either of you in charge of budgets in your jobs? How does that work?

Sickamore · 11/11/2024 07:46

Littleannoyingperson · 11/11/2024 07:45

Haven’t you posted this before?

I haven’t, this is actually my first ever mn post!

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sometimesmovingforwards · 11/11/2024 07:48

Hope you get it sorted soon, live and learn eh.

Womblewife · 11/11/2024 07:49

Debt is easily racked up but harder to pay off, dob beat yourself up. The snow ball method really works and you’ll see improvement in no time if you keep budgeting.

Heatherbell1978 · 11/11/2024 07:51

Sorry to hear this but it sounds like you've got a grip on things and are able to work through it. I do think that there's a huge debt 'pandemic' out there which is a hangover from the actual pandemic but also we live in a debt culture with many not able to understand personal finances. I work in banking so am savvy with debt (I have it but all managed well) but at times I do find myself thinking 'oh I forgot I put that on a credit card'. We also earn well and aren't especially materialistic. But don't doubt that around you are people drowning in debt.

RuthWhitefeatherFeldman · 11/11/2024 07:52

You're not the first and you certainly won't be the last.

You've had your wake-up call now so nothing has been done that can't be undone with careful management.

The guilt of debt is the most corrosive element, so yes you feel bad at the moment but you now need to give your head a wobble and refocus your mindset. Wallowing won't help anyone.

Get planning and get focused. Good luck 👍🏻

TwelveKeys · 11/11/2024 07:53

Good luck. It's taken you a decade to rack this up so it'll be a slow process but hopefully the act of addressing it directly and being able to make payments will bring you some small satisfaction?

Is your husband on board or is there risk of the same spending behaviours creeping back?
I agree with pp not to look at anyone else!

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 11/11/2024 07:53

Just think into the future where you’ll be able to breathe.

Other people probably looked at your life and thought the same of you when you were flashing your cash about.

Most people look at savings and cutting back when in debt, but income is just as important. Have you considered how you can increase this? Have you looked at other roles available? Have you thought about getting a second job to push down your first debt quicker? (I know your husband can’t do this as a Teacher. But can you?) Just a couple evening bar shifts a week could earn you an extra £400 a month to take off the debt. It’s what I’d be doing.

Wolfpa · 11/11/2024 07:54

I work in debt management, the majority of people I speak to have higher than average incomes. The snowball method is the cheapest way to pay off debt and things will start to feel lighter soon.

sometimes I suggest paying off some of the facilities with lower balances as even if they are on a lower interest as psychologically it feels really good to be able to close off some debt.

minipie · 11/11/2024 07:56

Sickamore · 11/11/2024 07:46

I haven’t, this is actually my first ever mn post!

If you haven’t posted this before, that proves you’re not alone as there have been similar threads before. Honestly, so many people are in debt, including people with good income - often they have worse debt as they will get more offered by lenders.

Sounds like you are doing the right things seeing a debt counsellor and targeting the highest rate debt first.

Are you also working out why the debt built up ? Just day to day living - inflation means many people cannot live like they used to even on good wages? Or were there some specific expenses?

Scottiedogz · 11/11/2024 08:00

Been here and got the t-shirt!!
Google the snowball or avalanche method to pay off debt, fill out the excel worksheets and stick to it - it is amazing how quickly the debt reduces and it is not so painful with a plan. I found this to be so helpful, we have a good income, just had been overspending and this bought it all into focus.
If debt wakes you up at night, it is time to deal with it and get a good nights sleep!!!!

timetodecide2345 · 11/11/2024 08:05

Have a look on moneysavingexpert. There are some really useful debt threads.

Get rid of your credit cards if you haven't done already. I firmly believe some people shouldn't have them. I include myself in that category.

SwedishHills · 11/11/2024 08:14

You're not burying your head in the sand any more and that's the main thing.

I'm glad you were advised against an IVA etc - I had a friend who thought she was speaking to an independent financial adviser and they pushed an IVA on her when she didn't need it and it wrecked her credit rating. Awful.

Snowball method is perfect, keep an eye on your credit rating on one of the free providers (MSE has one with Experian) as it could be worth applying for more 0% in the future to move the debt. I think there is advice on there about how often you should apply though.

Mindset wise I know it's difficult but now you have the payments set up just try to view them as another bill and enjoy your lives. You don't want to wish time away - it's the most precious thing you have.

SeatonCarew · 11/11/2024 08:15

I agree with PPs, get yourself over to the Debtfree Wannabees thread on the Moneysaving expert thread OP. You'll get loads of good solid support and advice, and hear how others in the same boat are dealing/ have dealt with their debt. There are some really inspiring stories on there, and you definitely won't feel alone. Just stick together and work as a team, and you'll crack it! Good luck! 😊

OldTinHat · 11/11/2024 08:15

You can ask for interest and additional charges to be withheld on your debts.

On MSE, there's a template letter that you can send to all of your creditors. You set out your budget, what you can afford to pay, and not have the worry of extra charges.

I did this and paid off £17k in five years which, as a single mum on minimum wage, was an achievement I'm proud of. That was 12yrs ago though, so the £17k then meant more iyswim.

Your credit rating will plunge, though. But not a bad thing as it prevents you from getting into more debt.

Dolly567 · 11/11/2024 10:36

Maybe try break it down into 10k targets
This won't feel as overwhelming

Mainoo72 · 11/11/2024 11:14

There was a very similar post recently. You really have to address how you got into debt on such high salaries. Why were you over spending so much? Do you always want to have the newest car, best house etc?

You have to change your whole mindset around money so it doesn’t keep happening. To borrow from your mum on such high salaries is bizarre.

LaLaLaurie · 11/11/2024 12:47

Did you never expect the reality to catch up with you? You talk about having a good salary between you but you’ve clearly been living beyond your means and floating around fairly oblivious. Having an OK income doesn’t mran
yku can spend and spend and then act surprised when it’s all added up.

I imagine you still need to go through all of your spending habits to see how much you’re able to budget.

50andhopeless · 11/11/2024 13:14

LaLaLaurie · 11/11/2024 12:47

Did you never expect the reality to catch up with you? You talk about having a good salary between you but you’ve clearly been living beyond your means and floating around fairly oblivious. Having an OK income doesn’t mran
yku can spend and spend and then act surprised when it’s all added up.

I imagine you still need to go through all of your spending habits to see how much you’re able to budget.

Very unhelpful and patronising comment.

Sickamore · 11/11/2024 13:41

50andhopeless · 11/11/2024 13:14

Very unhelpful and patronising comment.

To be honest it’s true. We spent years in a bubble not talking or thinking about money and now we’re in this position. I so wish we’d been more sensible

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