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Feel like we’re the only ones. Very lonely/scary

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Sickamore · 11/11/2024 07:37

Morning,

so I’ve had another rubbish night sleep worrying about our debts. We are in the process of trying to sort out an absolutely mountain of debt that we’ve racked up over the last decade. Some of it has been racked up due to things that were to unforeseen, however, some of it is also down, to us not communicating with each other properly and generally making poor financial decisions

The thing that I am most embarrassed about is that we are a professional couple with good jobs. People probably look at us and think that we are doing okay, however the real reality is so so different.

It’s all came to a head about a year ago when I discovered the extent of our debt.

I had stupidly delegated all of the financial stuff to my husband and had left him to get on with it. He had tried his best, however, he had this false sense of needing to protect me from reality and that meant that we didn’t attack the death as aggressively as we should have.

apart from the two of us, nobody in the real world knows how much we owe. We have told some family members and very close friends that we are cutting back but the reality is that on top of our mortgage we have 80 K worth of debt. this is spread across credit cards loans and overdrafts etc. I also owe my mum 12 K however she has told me that this can be put on the back burner for the time being as it’s not money that she needs back urgently. It is still a priority for me though.

When husband was managing the money, he dropped a few balls and made some late payments, this means that we struggle to get 0% deals at the moment and therefore we are paying quite a lot of interest on some of the debts.

Thankfully, we have a good income. My husband is a head teacher and I work in a senior role in the local authority. Our joint gross income is around 118 K. Thank God we have a decent income otherwise they would be totally Insurmountable

Since discovering how much we owed, I have taken charge of our finances. I still expect husband to be involved but I do the budget and work out what needs to be paid. At the moment I am following the snowball method where I am throwing the majority of the money at our highest interest debts. Once this is paid, I will move onto the next one. Everything else is paid at the minimum level during this process. This seems to be working for us at the moment and it is nice to see some of the balances going down.

The thing that I really struggle with is that we are a couple who earn well, in our 40s. We shouldn’t be in this position and when I look around everybody else seems to have made far better choices. I know that money and personal finance is somewhat of a taboo topic, and therefore none of us really know what’s going on in other peoples lives. on my worst days I just feel as though we are the only ones dealing with such a ridiculous level of debt. I know that comparing ourselves to others is pointless, but is anybody else dealing with similar circumstances to us? He feels so lonely at the moment.

OP posts:
TwelveKeys · 11/11/2024 19:06

Sycamoretree4 · 11/11/2024 17:08

@TwelveKeys Now the rules have changed it would be less effective. Worked for us ten years ago and we’ve cleared the mortgage now and early retired. It gave us the breathing space we needed.

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Yes was fascinating reading the recent thread on stamp duty!

WellHelloScottie · 11/11/2024 21:09

I worked in financial budget planning for many years.
I am never surprised at how much debt sometimes people are in.

It is truly prevalent.
The point is, you are working on it, you have the means to sort it, and the intelligence to not let it happen again.

JeremiahBullfrog · 11/11/2024 21:48

KarlaKK · 11/11/2024 14:28

It has happened and you're dealing with it, which is great. It sounds also that your jobs are secure so that is a huge positive.

Is there anything large you can sell? Drop down to one car if you have two, perhaps?

I think you said you're on £118k between you so over £6,000 a month take home. Is your mortgage large? Hopefully not - would £2,000 cover mortgage and bills? If so, I'd be chucking in the remaining £4,000 a month to get the debt down asap. Maybe have the odd month off but I'd really tighten the belts for six months - porridge for breakfast, no eating out lunch or dinner etc.

Also, tandem to this I'd start selling off what you can that is in the house, and then depending on how much you get either use it for living a bit less restrictively or putting lump sums into the debt.

You can get rid of this debt much quicker than you think. Best of luck. Well done to everyone that has managed it. My debt was less than £20k and it was just me. It is a real sense of achievement when you get rid of it.

I am minded to echo this. You can plausibly pay this off in a year or two if you're willing to cut back to only necessary spending. (But of course we don't know what your fixed bills are.)

unsync · 11/11/2024 21:50

It is surprisingly common. A lot of people got sucked into living on credit when interest rates were low. When rates rose, a lot of people had a rude awakening. The main thing is you have realised you've made a mistake and are sorting it out.

NorthernDuck · 12/11/2024 07:52

@Sickamore you definitely aren’t on your own, so many people have a lot of debt and I suspect the reason why your friends and family have, to the outside view, a better life than you is because they either have lots of debt or family help.
My business partner is having to sell their house as they have got into a financial mess. We are in a regulated industry so can’t do an IVA etc. It’s caused them so much stress, and to me because they need to constantly take more money out of the business. They have borrowed money from the business, family, loans, cards, the person who sold us the business.
I’m not sure fully what their total unsecured debts are, but I know they owe the old owner £80k and the business £20k so I suspect it was around £200k at the peak and now they’ve sold cars etc it’s probably “down” to £150k. With their partner they earn c£110k as a household, but were enjoying a huge lifestyle going on foreign holidays, nice cars, detached 4 bed house, caravan for weekends away etc, but it was all financed by debt. They’ve sold the cars and now selling the house, but after all this they’ll still owe c£100k. At least you’ve had you’re realisation before it’s got this bad.
Im not sure that my business partner has truly learned their lesson though as they were saying only last week downsizing will mean they will be able to take their kids away next year as they won’t have such a large mortgage 🫣
For comparison, DH and I earn c£160k between us, have one car we share, 3 bed-semi, we do go away twice a year (outside school holidays) and usually a cheap and cheerful trip to Spain. I am probably the other extreme as I try to put £15k a year into my pension as I want to retire at 55 - life is about choices, I think there is probably a middle ground between us. I just hope selling their house is a wake up for them because if they carry on spending as they have been, the only asset they have left to sell is the business and that will cause me a huge problem as I won’t be able to finance buying them out and I’m not ready to sell yet.

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