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PREMIUM BONDS AUGUST/SEPT 2024

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/09/2024 10:02

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win.

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if over /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and £1 win £25k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 21,000:1, can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 5/6% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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1975wasthebest · 06/09/2024 20:57

Me too, especially with nul points for 5 out of the last 6 months. Am I at the bottom of the scoreboard?

Nine consecutive months here of bugger all. But I only have £6K, so it’s understandable.

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 06/09/2024 21:28

1975wasthebest · 06/09/2024 20:57

Me too, especially with nul points for 5 out of the last 6 months. Am I at the bottom of the scoreboard?

Nine consecutive months here of bugger all. But I only have £6K, so it’s understandable.

Your £6k would have earned £218.25 after 9 months in an ISA at 4.85%. You could have entered Lotto twice a week for over a year with the interest.

Obviously a downside with the lottery is that you lose your stake, but do we know if the odds of winning 'big' are better with PBs or the lottery?

CaveMum · 07/09/2024 13:11

Odds of winning the national Lottery are 1 in 45 million.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery.

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/09/2024 13:31

Thanks @CaveMum I will add that to the next threads spiel

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1975wasthebest · 07/09/2024 13:50

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991
£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

Such a big gap there between odds - very thought provoking. Thanks for posting that @CaveMum

CaveMum · 07/09/2024 14:07

I should add the caveat that I googled the numbers! I didn’t work them out myself 🤣

sunsu · 07/09/2024 14:27

The big ones on here give me a little hope! We have 2 x FH and won £100 in one and £450 in the other. A good month for us! We get a bit disheartened with PBs but are scared to withdraw as are convinced it’ll come good eventually. The joys!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 07/09/2024 15:44

Very interesting. Thank you @CaveMum for posting that.

kitchendiscotime · 07/09/2024 19:17

I got £25 this month on a £22k holding. Better than nowt.

SnowFrogJelly · 10/09/2024 01:18

Thanks.. place marking

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 10/09/2024 05:49

Have got the apps now so hopefully easier to check. Marking place.

Countrylife2002 · 10/09/2024 07:22

Thanks for the new thread. Living in hope.

Florafleur · 10/09/2024 07:38

A family member won £5,000 in August and £175, I've just been told. He has nearly full holdings.

Jellybean85 · 10/09/2024 14:24

Ooh
A shiny new thread! Fingers crossed for autumn luck for us all

BiscuitlyBoyle · 10/09/2024 22:19

Just checking in. The draw seems a long way away

Tworedgeraniums · 11/09/2024 08:07

Nothing for me this month (September)
which probably means I’ll get nothing for at least the next two months, I notice a bit of pattern occurring about two years ago. Then I’ll win for six months on the trot.

Blondeshavemorefun · 12/09/2024 22:10

From their website

NS&I responded to the query to clarify the rules for Premium Bonds. A representative stated: "Please note it is an essential feature of the Premium Bond scheme that winning is solely a matter of luck, and there can be no guarantee of any level of return whatever the value of the holding.

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CaveMum · 12/09/2024 22:55

Read an article the other day that said NS&I have cut the rates on their Bonds and speculation they will amend the PB prize rate too 😫

https://www.lovemoney.com/news/166443/nsi-hikes-guaranteed-growth-income-bond-rates-best-buy

NS&I cuts Guaranteed Growth & Income Bond rates

https://www.lovemoney.com/news/166443/nsi-hikes-guaranteed-growth-income-bond-rates-best-buy

coffeestains · 12/09/2024 23:12

Following!!

BuyingButterAndSatinSandals · 13/09/2024 11:10

Blondeshavemorefun · 12/09/2024 22:10

From their website

NS&I responded to the query to clarify the rules for Premium Bonds. A representative stated: "Please note it is an essential feature of the Premium Bond scheme that winning is solely a matter of luck, and there can be no guarantee of any level of return whatever the value of the holding.

Translation: Dear Investors, It is not our fault. It is your own bad luck wot done it, so stop all your whingeing, whining and gnashing of teeth.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/09/2024 13:50

Yep @BuyingButterAndSatinSandals

There is no guarantee and it's done to luck

someone with £10 or £100 worth winning £100k

Yet someone with FH so £50k get nothing some months

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addies · 15/09/2024 08:16

Hello all. I have premium bonds but only around 15k. I KNOW it's luck, and there are no guarantees, but those with FH...what would you say you average winnings wise? I've got a sum of money and can't decide between paying off a section of mortgage or investing up to FH. With mortgage rates being high, the savings I would make on payments is deflating, I wonder whether having FH for a year might serve me better short term. Hope every month, hopefully winnings that would go some way to making up the difference of mortgage payments and I can wait for a year hoping that rates come down a bit further! Trying to decide!

1975wasthebest · 15/09/2024 19:03

I would also like to hear about the PB's experiences of those on FH as it's an aim of mine to get to that £50K sum in the next year or two. Martin Lewis says the median average winnings in a year for those on FH is £1,950 (or 3.9%). Not great, but of course you don't pay tax on the PB's prizes.

www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/premium-bonds/

Jellybean85 · 16/09/2024 12:32

@addies @1975wasthebest we've been on full holdings for about a year before moving house and on about half now.

On FH we won every month, an amount varying between 200/300 up to 800/900.

Our best win has been £5k!

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/09/2024 13:13

Jellybean85 · 16/09/2024 12:32

@addies @1975wasthebest we've been on full holdings for about a year before moving house and on about half now.

On FH we won every month, an amount varying between 200/300 up to 800/900.

Our best win has been £5k!

What did you win in the whole year @Jellybean85

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