Botwatch 83 ! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

[YouOKHun]

New Fred

Those fucking stupid FLP posts about what they are buying

• It’s not its
• I’m not i’m

It’s not hard to spell check this stuff!

Wow! Yawn has another book to read. The title suggests that things are definitely not going well in Yawn world. Maybe if she stopped making up stuff for her social media feed and actually got herself a job things would not be looking so dire. If she only does 10hrs a week on FLP which appears to be mainly evenings, surely she can fit a real job into the rest of the week and maybe double her income.
Some of us are lucky bitches because we get off our fat arses and work in the real world where you are guaranteed a steady income.

I thought Yawn was already rich 🤔

Exactly, she's told everyone enough times, if money was no problem she'd get that thatched roof fixed, a house is her biggest investment and it's going to bail them out at some point but buyers will want at least 50 grand off the asking price if it needs a new thatch.

@Angrymum22 I've written the sequel to that book, it's called Debt Now, Silly Cow, as the publishers wouldn't let me call it Get Poor, Silly Whore. It's all about the downward spiral into six figure debt after becoming involved with an MLM.

There is a page on FB that was calling out Messiah’s most recent fizz scam
who have just done some sleuthing about Ex Prouve Bot lying and implying she’s putting down a deposit on a house in Wales as her sister had found it for her. Hundreds of comments lapping it up and congratulating. Turns out that it’s a bunch of lies and the house is actually just for rent and still very much on open market! She also said it’s near water and apparently, again, porkies!

She’s led her minions to believe she’s moving out in 5 weeks, can’t wait to see the excuses as to why not! How does lying corn so easily to this lot?!

I think we should name her Slumbot! (Slummy mummy bot being the longer version!) Some of her posts just give me urge to pay her for a spa break to get freshened up!!!! Sorry if that sounds charitable but eeek!

*uncharitable rather!

Nurse thinks she has a cold because she missed a few days of drinking aloe gloop

she’s really convinced by the ‘supports your immune system’ lie

@SunflowerVibes first rule of lying - make sure it's not too easy to get caught out! I mentioned that house lie upthread and wondered if anyone was going to call her out but that group are going to wait for the inevitable "it fell through" post.

It turns out some of her followers live dangerously close to that house, one of them knowing exactly where it is. So Slumbot will need to avoid adding to the thread. I suspect some of her followers smelled a rat. Anyway, the curse of the bots is the screenshot so her lie lives on whatever she does with her post.

On that thread saying 'congratulations Hun' was none other than Sacked Bot who not so long ago was all over Ms S's and that Messiah watching group playing the victim of Mr Acti. She is someone who will absolutely know Slumbot is telling lies to her downline because she has a back catalogue of many lies herself. I wonder if that Messiah watching group noticed her on the thread and questioned her recent input. She WAS the victim of Mr Acti because she put herself in a pool of slightly bigger sharks than herself who could see her lack of morals was exploitable. She deserved her Mermology disaster for all the disaster she has brought to others.

*IS going to wait for the inevitable!

Oh gosh, yes, good spot! Agree with your views on Sacked Bot! I remember well when she came along on Miss S’s page for the live and although I felt a bit sorry for her re Mr Acti exploitation, it was obvious that she wasn’t a wholly innocent party and had that ruthless streak in wanting to get ahead at any cost. It’s such a cesspit of fake love bombing and smoke and mirrors, the MLM world!

As for Slumbot, she has a way of drawing the sympathy card and seems to be good at presenting herself as “relatable”. The minions adore her! (Tbf, her recent lives did make for compulsive viewing but not for the right reasons, lol!) The rumours about reasons for her leaving Prouve seemed unsavoury, allegedly owing money to down lines etc, very murky!

P.S Sorry for repetition, hadn’t carefully caught up on last few pages, this thread moves quite fast!

I see that JL bot makes an appearance on FLP's "half time results" post, under "total business" top 30. How does that work then? No sign of FLP activities on her social media, and I can't see anything for her partner either. She styles herself as a coach and she and partner have a coaching company showing under his name. No hint of FLP on that site.

Perhaps Uber could explain why someone whose involvement with FLP put her on the Insolvency Register would come back for more and why it might be so carefully concealed? How exactly does she end up in the top 30 Uber?

Top 30 in the UK probably means she's just about breaking even. To make an actual living out of it, you'd have to be in the top 5 or so. 5-20 means you're making a little bit of 'side hustle' money (for full-time botting) 20-40 would mean you're not actually losing money after overheads. Anyone below that is losing money and will continue to do so.

@Twentytwentyhindsight I agree "top" anything in FLP means very little these days but I am still wondering why she features at all and why she would involve herself after last time. It seems strange that a coach with no hint of botting should feature next to people who are all over social media with their FLP businesses. She is very much under Uber's wing so I wondered if there might be a reason Uber is so keen on her.

I expect she & Uber go back to the 'good times' when FLP was on the up and the later set about very determinedly 'gaming' the system by making sure her 'business' (including garage stock) was carefully funnelled via selected downlines in order to maximise her chairman's bonus.
It could well be the case that insolvency bot is still playing that role for Uber despite no longer doing any botting herself.
Remarkable, isn't it, that someone who left a pretty good job to join a pyramid scheme that left her insolvent feels qualified to be a 'business coach' to others...

@Twentytwentyhindsight yes it is remarkable that she feels qualified to coach anyone. I'd trust plankton more. You are, I'm sure, right on the money re Uber. It's all very deceptive and top of the list of deceivers is FLP HQ who let Uber do this by knowingly facilitating actions that someone down the line has to pay for.

Yesterday FLP UK reminded its FBOs that their incentives are designed around four CORE* pillars: recruitment, retention, productivity and development (in that order of course). I wonder what core activity Uber's "management" of JL goes under? The nicely vague "activity" I suppose.

What’s ‘development’ when it’s at home?

@Spongebobette

Recruitment - just that
Retention - plastic bowling bags from Aliexpress, promises that success is just around the corner, the sunk cost fallacy, distraction, bullying, framed certificates etc
Productivity - being your own best customer
Development - see 'recruiting'

Recruitment - finding fresh victims
Retention - alternately love bombing and bullying your downline
Productivity - looking busy busy on socials and ordering lots of products yourself
Development - attend (and pay for) all the events HQ put ob, and all the Zoom meetings your upline schedules.

I think Fierce has had another pop at Castle. I would sincerely enjoy it if this escalated, Castle has been so irrelevant and boring of late. Need more drama.

Love it

I’m genuine and relateable

no you are spammy and throwing shit at the wall, whereas I have soul and heart

I love that she (Fierce) is all about genuine interaction but the post is flagged as having used generative AI.

That’s absolutely perfect