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New fred!

I see Scamversity’s monthly price for the basic scam has gone from £39 to £47 a month. Surely no one is daft enough to pay anything? Mind you, only 4 likes on her “discounted rates” post from two days ago so no one is queuing up.

The inevitable “hurry doors closing” post has more likes but very few posts, mainly inanities such as “nice office Hun” and someone saying “I’m in the Scamversity Campus Community, is this different?”. No Love, it’s the same old scam but Bruv is using different colouring pens to fool you.

I expect Castle has lost count of the many iterations of her coaching scam.

Ah I see, thanks.

Nurse has ‘a couple of appointments available’ next week - she’s getting booked up though!

hmm

That’s a typo @Spongebobette it should read ‘Nurse has a couple of appointments next week’. One is to put the bins out and the other is in Costa after school drop off where she plans to spends an hour photographing the stationery she’s spread all over the table. No appointment with the C25K app, that didn’t last long did it?

Or making new YouTube videos!

@dickiedavisthunderthighs Oh how inconvenient of BehindMLM to question Wig and Sleaze’s latest project - how could 3D printing yourself a house possibly be a scam? When one of their projects goes a bit tits up they return to general “escape the matrix” posts without naming a particular scam, until the dust settles. Today Sleaze is saying that he flies with the Eagles while we are just Matrix chickens … summat like that anyway. Here is the actual quote from the great weasel himself.

“Fly with the eagles don't be taking crumbs like chickens of the matrix that have the bread...”

No, me neither…

@YouOKHun Chickens Of The Matrix would be a great name for a heavy metal band

Speaking of quiet, Yawn's gone remarkably silent since Uber posted photos of herself, Yawn's upline and other 'leaders' in the same team all meeting at HO. Invite got lost in the post I imagine...

@dickiedavisthunderthighs 🤣Chicken if the Matrix headlining at the Nag’s Head on a Tuesday night, playing to the backs three locals at the bar and one enthusiastic local weirdo who turns up at all their gigs. I can see it now. A Poundland Spinal Tap.

I imagine Uber’s renaissance is uncomfortable for the people less in favour. The more Uber posts the more it’s clear who isn’t invited, just as it is clear Yawn is on her own at the various gatherings where she opts for an early night or some other excuse for not being in the pics.

Yawn has posted what sounds to me like a wounded little soldier post about the brightest, sparkliest gems having the biggest flaws. She says it’s for anyone who needs to hear it right now but to me these posts are always about convincing themselves. The face-tuned sound bite carefully conceals her own flaws of course.

The FLP event looks v v small. Remember the heady days when they could get over 1k into the Birmingham NEC?

It's all so pathetic.

2jags is still clinging on like a limpet to a rock l see. She never wanders far from mother uber does she!! The forced grin on ubers insta pick speaks volumes

Any clues for who uber is? Why does nurse keep doing random product recommendations, I'm so confused by her,is she trying to be an influencer or a coach or both, for either her daily updates are just so dull, and if she can't even motivate herself to complete anything like c25k why would anyone trust her to help them with their 'mindset'.

Uber: the singer Imbruglia and the part of a shoe that can be block or stiletto with an e and a y at the end. Then a hyphen and then last part of surname which is the piece of flat metal you might hold in front of you when going into battle, plural.

Castle is such a wooden actor. Her latest fb post suggests she’s had some amazing news about reaching a goal. But leaves everyone with no idea what she’s achieved. The idiots that follow her are all whooping and hollering but have no idea why. For all they know she may have simply learnt how to switch on her computer.

Looks like Castle's been dropped a fiver to give the MLM Ninja a name drop. Smacks of desperation both ways.

He is particularly annoying

I'm at the championships of a heavily franchised martial arts organisation and have just noticed that their banners all have Herbalife Nutrition logos on them. Urgh. Not sure I've come across Herbalife in the wild before. Fortunately no sign of "smoothie" bars yet.

Just properly watched yawns tt congratulating herself. She's claiming to be a Internet sensation.. have we all missed something really big?? Buying followers does not make you a sensation. Good lord you couldn't make this shite up!

Hi Yawn!! 🤣🤣👋.

The issue is. We aren't jealous and we aren't bullies. We just call you out for all the hot air and brazen lies you spout. 🤣🤣🤣.

And making money out of vulnerable people you know full well will not make any money for themselves.

Carry on....

I’m am somewhat gobsmacked that Yawn does not see the similarities between the abuse of power that Jimmy Saville exhibited to feed his desire for adulation and of course sex, and the tactics used by MLM to lure in victims.
Jimmy Saville was identified as exhibiting the dark triad , narcissism, psychopathy and Machiavellian. A necessary set of personality traits required to succeed in MLM.
I too watched the series and was compelled to do a bit of further reading. When he insinuated himself into Broadmoor, it was for once reason only, to abuse vulnerable people. Just because MLM abuse their victims financial makes it no less abhorrent.
The staff at Broadmoor were experts on identifying personality disorder and retrospectively suggested that he exhibited strong symptoms of the dark triad.
A much better tv series to watch is “Vanishing Act” a true life miniseries about Melissa Caddick, an Australian, who ran a Ponzi scheme pre Covid. When she was exposed she disappeared, only her foot in a trainer was found washed up on a beach. DNA identified it as her foot. Since a great deal of her accumulated wealth disappeared, some think that she actually chopped off her own foot and is still alive. Whether dead or alive she systematically stole from friends and family to feed her own greed for expensive living. Does that sound familiar?

@Twentytwentyhindsight yes indeed, if the Undershot Bot is still prepared to have anything to do with Castle that really shows things are dire for him! He’s lucky that he’s always had money thanks to his father’s shady dealings, it’s just a shame he has managed to convince his paying followers that he earned well from MLM and can show them how to do the same.

I wonder if he’s suffering from the total saturation of coaches as he now has a lot company in that particular field. I don’t think he needs to worry about keeping tabs on Castle and there are no real followers for him to swipe, he’d be better off keeping an eye on Fierce as she is a much more organised scammer.

I think the big clue that Yawn had something planned for the massive weight loss (whether it was injections or surgery or whatever) was the sudden deletion of most of her photos in Jan 2022. This meant the "look how much weight I've lost on a C9" posts every couple of months accompanied by carefully posed and filtered photos taken up a ladder by Mr Yawn conveniently vanished.

It's almost like the C9 doesn't actually work....

@fitgirl26 yes there was definitely something going on because she allegedly had the life changing, scary GP appointment in mid-Oct 21 and claims to have been shocked into immediate action yet the period between October and January has little evidence (or now deleted evidence) of what being shocked into action really changed. She might have been on a waiting list for some intervention or other and decided to get Christmas out of the way first or quietly started on whatever method it was in order to claim it was C9 in mid Jan. in fact most of her telling photos from 2021 have disappeared altogether.

I have a screen shot from 19 Jan 22 where she presents a heavily doctored photo and says “last day of my C9”, it’s the same photo the reappears in March or April in undoctored form as a “before” photo. Whatever her method she is clearly wanting to credit the C9 and so anything from the weeks before needs heavy editing/deletion. A lot of the photos disappeared for early 2022 because I think she saw we were discussing the photoshopping and dodgy timeline! They disappeared within a few hours of our discussion. All very sus.

It would take one of those huge pinboards with a timeline and lots of photos and string connecting the various claims made by Yawn to come to any conclusions about her story

but I’ll save you the trouble

she lies

she’s a liar

she’s been lying for years

her photos have been filtered and carefully framed for 14 years
you can’t trust a single thing she says - about her weight, her business, anything at all really

the truth is not a concept she’d recognise - she’ll say and claim ANYTHING that helps her promote herself and recruit people into her cult

and she has no shame at all about it