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Universal credit managed migration thread

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ChristmasCatBells · 28/06/2023 14:50

Anyone else waiting for a migration notice this year?
Looks like they are planning to move people on tax credits only onto universal credit this year but haven't released any detailed timetables about areas.
Thought it might be useful to share experiences and information on here for those affected.

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AlwaysFrazzled88 · 26/09/2023 22:09

I thought at the moment as things stand as long as one earned around £1200 (ish) it doesn't matter what the other partner earned or dis however my youngest is one. Yours being four they would probably push you to work search or work for 16 hours.

Ramdogs · 26/09/2023 22:27

A couple with children will each have a 'claimant commitment'. You will be asked to name the lead carer. The person who isn't the lead carer will need to work 35 hours. The person who is the lead carer will have varied hours requirements depending on age of youngest child.

See section 7 onwards. www.gov.uk/government/publications/universal-credit-and-your-family-quick-guide/universal-credit-further-information-for-families#in-return-for-your-universal-credit

AlwaysFrazzled88 · 27/09/2023 09:23

Interesting I didn't realise it is a maximum of 16 at 3. I was thinking I was going to be pushed to work more than 16 when I might not be able to get the hours. 😬

NefertitiMildred · 27/09/2023 11:18

Got my UC migration appt tomorrow and am so stressed about it. No idea what to expect. I started my own business a couple of months ago. It’s doing ok but technically not in profit yet due to the startup costs, but I saw on another thread that apparently UC don’t consider startup costs? Can that be right?

I turned 55 this year so I was able to cash in a (very very small) lump sum pension, and I used this money to set up the business but it’s all gone now on startup costs such as premises (had to pay 6 months rent in advance), equipment, stock etc.

But if UC don’t count this, then what does that mean about the pension I received? As I was on CTC & WTC then, I didn’t declare the pension at the time bc I just intended to do so at the end of the tax year when I knew all my earnings. The pension sum was taxed at source but I thought I might get the tax back next April.

So if UC is calculated monthly rather than annually, does that mean they’ll ignore both the fact that I received this pension payment AND that I’ve spent it on the business, bc this all happened before starting my UC claim?

I’m also terrified about the idea of ‘notional’ earnings. Can they come after me retroactively to ‘claim back’ benefits which I never actually claimed? (Eg. JSA which I didn’t claim years ago because I wasn’t actually looking for a job at the time?)

I feel like cancelling the UC claim but am terrified they’ll still come after me for something in the past.

Workingoutlife · 27/09/2023 13:35

Possibly too complex a question for here but everyone seems so knowledgeable I’ll ask anyway.

4 children ( 18,11,10,8) and all children are in receipt of high level DLA/ Pip. Currently receive CTC, income support, carers and child benefit and housing benefit. Neither parent works due to significant needs of children, 1 can’t access school transport to special school for personal reasons so we spend from 7.30am-10am/1.30-4.15pm on school run, one often needs 2;1 care and mum has her own health issues ( although doesn’t claim for this)

we have just received a migration warning letter and wanted to have a rough idea of the UC elements we would be entitled to / work commitment expectations.

I can’t Imagine being able to work given the school run / care needs alongside health issues - genuinely each day changes based on mums health as to who does which caring role.

its caused quite a panic - thanks in advance

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Barleymilk · 27/09/2023 14:31

I've received my migration warning leaflet today, would anyone know how long I have until i receive the actual migration notice letter?
Thanks

Nochoiceleft · 27/09/2023 15:28

@Workingoutlife are you both in receipt of carers allowance?

Workingoutlife · 27/09/2023 15:48

We are :)

Workingoutlife · 27/09/2023 17:42

Should say we are for 2 separate children not each other / for an adult

Nochoiceleft · 27/09/2023 19:27

When you make your claim @Workingoutlife report yourselves as carers. You will be put in the no work requirements group when uc confirm the caring.

Workingoutlife · 27/09/2023 19:35

Thank you! I was so anxious about doing something wrong and missing out on elements

Sirzy · 28/09/2023 14:17

Barleymilk · 27/09/2023 14:31

I've received my migration warning leaflet today, would anyone know how long I have until i receive the actual migration notice letter?
Thanks

I got the letter before the warning leaflet so I would say it could be any time!

Sirzy · 28/09/2023 14:20

Is them wanting a phone call during the migration process normal? I have had a message about a call tomorrow afternoon and it’s sending my worries through the roof that their is a problem!

Bromptotoo · 28/09/2023 14:38

Sirzy · 28/09/2023 14:20

Is them wanting a phone call during the migration process normal? I have had a message about a call tomorrow afternoon and it’s sending my worries through the roof that their is a problem!

Some sort of conversation with UC during the application process is quite normal. They may have questions around any number of things including verifying your ID, your housing costs or whatever.

Just treat it as a Q&A and if you have an issue return here or try Help to Claim (run by Citizens Advice) on 0800 144 8 444.

Sirzy · 28/09/2023 14:47

Thank you!

Isthistheendoflifeasweknowit · 28/09/2023 16:13

I'm really worried about the migration...I've just had a letter to say to expect a letter 😓

We're in the middle of applying for DH PIP and to assess DD15 for ADHD/ ASD.
DH has arthritis but can wash/feed/work etc. He is retraining at the moment so he can keep working, but anymore than 28 hours a week and he's wrecked, he earns around £550 a week but this should go up by £100ish when he's finished training.
I've been homeschooling DD and work 8 hours at the moment as she's had other issues and I had to drop hours. I earn £110 a week. (But will obviously work more when she's all sorted).

Will I need to look for more work on UC? Life seems so overwhelming right now 😞

scratchyfannyofcocklane · 28/09/2023 17:03

Just had my migration notice and was wondering how I stand re capital. I have 6k in an isa and 1500 in a second current account that maintenance payments go into plus £100 ish from my salary that is used for essential but occasional payments for things ie insurance, school uniform, car and house maintenance etc ... Will this be classed as 'savings or will they understand its essentially daily living costs? I supposed I could not' ' save' this money and pay for things like my car insurance monthly, take out monthly boiler insurance etc instead of having a slush fund that works out cheaper but it seems bonkers to do it that way when we all know that's the most expensive option. I know I'm in a fortunate position in that I own my house but it does mean that if something goes wrong I have to foot the bill - for example I had to pay 500 for essential roof repair last year... Do I 'empty' this second account by doing a few large shops, replace my
washer, buy school uniform for the next 3 years and mot my car early?

AlwaysFrazzled88 · 28/09/2023 17:08

I reckon they will class them as savings. I think they only deduct something like £4 for every £200 over £6k though.

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If you can't work then you would need to submit sick notes to Uc and wait to be assessed for work capability.

lawMB · 28/09/2023 18:37

Hi i had my leaflet today no letter yet i gwt tax credits for my 3 year old i have a partmer he is self employment profitable business aprox 400 to 600 a week will ge have to visit the job centre i qm not workimg at the moment do recive PIP and my Little boy is 3. my partner has always been adament his not sitting down there when he works full time but how will.i then recive my sons money if his asked to.do this or will he not be? when i do a calculatiom it takes half his income off as 55 percent or something very confused

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