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MLM Bot Watch 77: MLMs are scams, you will lose money and paying £97 for an ‘official’ certificate won’t change that

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Spongebobette · 02/06/2023 15:22

we continue to call out the bullshit peddled by MLMs and the scam artists on the fringes who making money from coaching and pretend certificates

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Spongebobette · 04/07/2023 12:36

meatbaseddessert · 04/07/2023 10:09

@PieonaBarm how is she living? I'm assuming a bit pay off from NHS but surely that's running out?
Previous role was only 12 hours so she must have had top up benefits but I'm guessing you don't get that if self employed?
Launch of the business video has had one like. From her mum.

If the only advertising she’s doing is through her private FB group plus some posts on Insta mixed in with the mind numbingly dull content about her day to day life, where does she think her clients are going to come from?

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BSintolerant · 04/07/2023 13:49

I think Nurse was topping up her salary with benefits. A while ago she shared a photo of herself and there was something on her laptop - a link or an icon - (I forget exactly what it was) to info on Universal Credit.

I wonder how her Hundependence Day business launch is going? She’s definitely more of a dire warning than an inspiration. I think she’s mastered the art of manifesting Botwatchers pretty well.

MaireadMcSweeney · 04/07/2023 15:05

meatbaseddessert · 04/07/2023 10:09

@PieonaBarm how is she living? I'm assuming a bit pay off from NHS but surely that's running out?
Previous role was only 12 hours so she must have had top up benefits but I'm guessing you don't get that if self employed?
Launch of the business video has had one like. From her mum.

She can definitely get UC as self employed. In fact you get a year to start a new business and can basically earn nothing for the first year. If you have the energy you can set up a play business and avoid being expected to look for a job for a year...

DeliaDeetz · 04/07/2023 15:45

We here all know Castle is full of crap and it's all smoke and mirrors but if you look at her Insta and then the likes of Nurse, there is no comparison!

Castle lives in Spain, always spending money on new stuff, beauty treatments and going to nice looking bars/restaurant etc. Essentially trying to sell everyone on the idea you too could have her apparently successful lifestyle.

Nurse on the other hand...trips to B & M, stories about her sons swimming lessons and other every day things that lots of people deal with. She's not exactly selling a life for people to really aspire to.

Granted they will be wasting money no matter who they choose as a coach but purely on face value it is gonna be the Castle's of this world and not the Nurse's!

Spongebobette · 04/07/2023 17:43

Also, why would I want to be coached by someone who is openly sharing that she’s in the middle of an online coaching course herself?

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YouOKHun · 04/07/2023 18:59

True @DeliaDeetz, thanks to her parents’ successful business Castle has the resources to convince more people she has been successful and she has higher expectations of what will be handed to her on a plate. I can’t help thinking that if a magic wand was waved that could take away social media, financial props, MLM, coaching and all the related stuff meaning that both Nurse and Castle had to survive by traditional means, that Nurse would come out on top. She has at least had a job and has some qualifications as a nurse, but what would Castle do? There is absolutely nothing to Castle and I don’t think she could function at all. They are both ridiculous but I think Castle is more precarious and more inauthentic even if she appears more glamorous!

Spongebobette · 05/07/2023 08:36

Has Nurse forgotten she’s running a business? She’s spending the day visiting relatives and is talking about going on holiday in 2 weeks and needing to go shopping for clothes

also, how will she cope with online appointments over the summer when she has a young child in the house? Or is this a business that only operates in term time?

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Whiterangey · 05/07/2023 09:54

Good morning, long time no see.

I'm just popping on to correct an incorrect assumption regarding a bot that has been going on for years.

The bot called wig, ponzi partner to sleaze.

Not a wig, it's the worst hair extensions I have ever seen. I got a very good look for a very long time yesterday as I was behind her for a couple of hours. Her hair was all matted where the extensions are. Cheap bleach job on her natural hair as well.

Sleaze elicits the urge to vomit in real life, they both do.

Both were cheaply dressed, her extensions are either cheaply made and done, or as it looked, both. Even cheaply, they were way past due for being done again, so she can't afford to got those done.

Clothes appeared primark in quality and pricing. Not primark as they don't go up to her size, but they were cheap.

I was wearing a chazza shop dress, which is where most of my clothes come from, and it looked like I'd spent more with my £2.50 dress then they had.

I do believe they made a decent chunk of change with their latest scam but I believe the money is all gone now, they definitely aren't spending it on themselves, not even the basics.

She was wearing a hat but had to take it off.

It's clear her photos are photoshopped, but they are nothing compared to the real thing.
Neither of them are pleasant in person. He's short. She's not tall had a pair of those shoes which have string all on them and a wedge heel the string ties them on to you. I believe they are Spanish? I only wear skechers so don't know what they are called. Looked like she paid £5 on holiday for them.

I checked and the shoes didn't have a red sole.

For those who remember me, I'm not only a healthy weight, my BMI is 23. Up from 16. I ate all the things, and still am.

I developed coulrophobia, not sure if anyone will get the reference to someone? They aren't a bot so not sure.

I've still been watching bots, those that are left. Sent a friend request to Yawn during the FB blip.

MLM is on the way out for sure.

Whiterangey · 05/07/2023 10:03

They looked like a wish.com version of right said Fred and Britney, that's a quote from someone else.

thetemptationofchocolate · 05/07/2023 10:12

Aha Whiterangey, you have been in court to watch the clown!
Did you hear what happened to the Clown's flags?

YouOKHun · 05/07/2023 10:19

I developed coulrophobia, not sure if anyone will get the reference to someone? They aren't a bot so not sure

I follow your meaning @Whiterangey. W&S were supporting Coco at his court appearance weren’t they? I thought they’d fallen out with him but obviously Sleaze misses the potential limelight his association with Coco afforded him. W&S are off to worship Andrew Tate after they finish in London. The people Sleaze admires say a lot about his own values.

interesting that you were close to them. I am sure they make a bit of money and it runs through their fingers quickly. It doesn’t surprise me at all that the unfiltered reality reveals a pair of threadbare grifters living out of fake Louis Vuitton holdalls.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 05/07/2023 10:19

Good to hear from you @Whiterangey!
After they are done showing their solidarity for Koko (I hope for his sake that they're not here as character witnesses... well, actually, that would be brilliant!).
Their fight against injustice and oppression will be taking them to Romania next, apparently, to fearlessly fight for that other victim of woke persecution, Andrew Tate...
🤮

Whiterangey · 05/07/2023 10:42

They mentioned Tate a couple of times while outside the public gallery.

He does sell meet and greats for some of his workshops, £5000 a pop. I cannot comprehend why meeting tate would be considered a flex.

I don't believe them though, I can't imagine he'd let them through his door just based on how they look and are.

I was so excited when I found out they would be there as well, it was like Christmas!

I didn't see any of his thousands of supporters waving any flags which had me so confused.

My guess was that they were there to try and scam more of his supporters but they were in short short supply.

It's weird finally seeing Internet people in real life. They are both revolting.

As for the defendant, I will never get over how short he is.

Whiterangey · 05/07/2023 11:22

BehindMLM posted a state of the scam post a while back about ponzi's being in decline, and that is what we are seeing.

This is probably the last one they will make anything from, and it's almost all gone, if not gone.

It was good to see.

Court has been adjourned again so back next month, unsure if they will be there again. They weren't there for the plea or the first Court appearance.

I'm unsure what can or cannot be said about what happened in court, the Lancashire Telegraph has a good write up though. They ran out of time so part heard again.

At the last one twas not expecting one of the witnesses to appear in person, thought it would be by live feed, emmen he walked in I almost fell off my seat.

Now if Yawn wouldn't mind going to the next one..

Also, Castle? Really?

She was low before, but now, not only is she sewage level, she could be mistaken for sewage.

I noticed nobody has any best friends anymore and Uber is missing a husband.

Companies House has made happy reading though.

My guess for Yawn is weight loss surgery.

Her sons girlfriend has my full sympathy and I'll chip in for a whip round for running shoes so she can run far away from Yawn.

She has had my namesake for a good few years, weird she hasn't upgraded to a newer one.

ticktock19 · 05/07/2023 11:41

Lovely to 'see' you again @Whiterangey, I'm very jealous that you were in court yesterday. I'm checking in on 'blocked by coco' for updates and obviously awaiting Cocos live tonight.
Judging from when the covid / flat earth truther went in hard on wig and sleaze (and Coco) then there were a number of people that said they were scammed by them. I think £50k was one amount that got taken from one person and numerous 1000s from others.
Shame we've got another month to wait but let's hope the judge wanting to check the videos means that coco might get a proper sentence this time

Whiterangey · 05/07/2023 11:57

He never mentions me on his lives.

The only time was after the plea, when I got in all the shots him and his supporters tried to take they had no idea I was there because of him at the time and it was the funniest thing ever.

Made even funnier because of my hair which is what you get when you add red to the colour in my username.

I was having problems signing in here and was going to set up as pinkrangey 🤣

YouOKHun · 05/07/2023 12:34

@ticktock19 the W&S victims who popped up on that Truther’s Live were shocking as I knew that W&S had a lot of victims but we don’t get to hear about the scale of the individual losses much. Of course being swindled out of £5 or £5000 is the same crime and it’s all wrong whatever the loss, but when you hear of a £50k loss and someone else who lost their home thanks to Sleaze then it’s less easy to just see him as simply a bit of a wanker in his fake Rolex. It’s also more disappointing than ever to know that he is getting away with it (though he has to keep on the move). I expect sooner or later Sleaze will be on the receiving end of some kind of “justice” from associates operating outside the law. Some of this Cyprus based property stuff is very iffy. He’s just the kind of idiot, dazzled by the glitz who will eventually find himself in the wrong company.

Whiterangey · 05/07/2023 12:42

He had a damaged eye from walking into a window in Dubai.

They also haven't gone back to Wales but have been staying with current victims in Cornwall.

I wonder if they are abated of something.

The same truther has done a livestream about the trial. I've not watched it yet, she did it earlier today

Whiterangey · 05/07/2023 12:42

Scared, not abated.

ticktock19 · 05/07/2023 12:49

Oh @Whiterangey - you're Pinky McPink who frequently comments on Cocos lives, you have me laughing so much, you were in the background of one of his lives weren't you?. I bloody love you 👏👏👏👏

ticktock19 · 05/07/2023 13:15

YouOKHun · 05/07/2023 12:34

@ticktock19 the W&S victims who popped up on that Truther’s Live were shocking as I knew that W&S had a lot of victims but we don’t get to hear about the scale of the individual losses much. Of course being swindled out of £5 or £5000 is the same crime and it’s all wrong whatever the loss, but when you hear of a £50k loss and someone else who lost their home thanks to Sleaze then it’s less easy to just see him as simply a bit of a wanker in his fake Rolex. It’s also more disappointing than ever to know that he is getting away with it (though he has to keep on the move). I expect sooner or later Sleaze will be on the receiving end of some kind of “justice” from associates operating outside the law. Some of this Cyprus based property stuff is very iffy. He’s just the kind of idiot, dazzled by the glitz who will eventually find himself in the wrong company.

Exactly, I've always laughed about the seediness of W&S and I know talking about them frequently involves other seedy individuals that aren't necessarily 'MLM' related but they are huge scammers which was horrifyingly exposed on truthers live and therefore I feel can be included here.
Remarkably Wig has put a post up this morning about her FL involvement with bloodsucker and castle mentioned.
The Cornish folks that W&S have been involved in seemed to offload a lot of equestrian stuff including very nice show ponies and a big wagon last year so I guess that's all gone to them too.
I so wish Sleazes cut eye was from someone giving him what he deserves 😏.
I shall go and watch truthers live now.

thetemptationofchocolate · 05/07/2023 13:37

You didn't see anyone waving flags because someone took them and hid them while he was in court - not me, I wasn't there but I have read about it on a fb page this morning.

spanfan · 05/07/2023 13:44

Whiterangeypinkhair it's lovely to hear from you.

I had the pleasure of crossing paths with W&S last December whilst on a weekend away.

They were quite loud. Terrible hair ( her), terrible clothes (both of them).

Fairly certain he was smoking in their room. Got a video of him on his phone trying to get someone to buy in to whatever he was shilling at the time.

spanfan · 05/07/2023 14:00

In other news I've reported one flp bot for health claims. Twice in the last week.

Fat blockers. Might as well eat money. It'll do the same thing 🤣

MLM Bot Watch 77: MLMs are scams, you will lose money and paying £97 for an ‘official’ certificate won’t change that
Whiterangey · 05/07/2023 14:08

ticktock19 · 05/07/2023 12:49

Oh @Whiterangey - you're Pinky McPink who frequently comments on Cocos lives, you have me laughing so much, you were in the background of one of his lives weren't you?. I bloody love you 👏👏👏👏

That's me, I don't post a lot because of time constraints, but I do like to set the record straight

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