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Goodoccasionallypoor · 21/04/2023 11:59

Littleheart5 · 21/04/2023 11:57

So you’re on a disability payment (funded by the taxpayer), had two children in hospitals (funded by the taxpayer), will no doubt send your kids to school (funded by the taxpayer), get free GP care for your kids (funded by the taxpayer), children’s allowance of €140 per month per child (funded by the taxpayer). I think you’ll doing alright for the taxes your DP pays there OP, might be time to cop yourself on and count your blessings.

Saving that move to another country with lower taxes, plenty of tech jobs out there

This may not all be true in Ireland. State funded healthcare isn't great so most people who can afford private cover, pay for it - it's much more common than in the UK.

Usernamen · 21/04/2023 11:59

€5,500 is ~£4,800, for a family of 4.

This is a middle earning household, OP wasn’t wrong about that.

Greensleevevssnotnose · 21/04/2023 12:00

summerfinn · 21/04/2023 10:12

I am Irish. I was merely making a point at how unfair it is for that money to be taken to do what with? Nothing. The country is on its arse. Shit healthcare , shit expensive childcare, it makes no sense. Tax the billionaires not middle income earners keeping the country going.

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Not a middle income at all that salary is in the top 1%

PinkPlantCase · 21/04/2023 12:00

@mincedtart Disabled people still need to exercise. If you’re going to pick apart the OP then go ahead but it’s wrong to assume that disabled people can’t or don’t need any exercise. It could be an important part of managing an illness or condition.

Littleheart5 · 21/04/2023 12:01

I’m Irish, living in Ireland @Goodoccasionallypoor , it’s all true.
Yes, many people pay for private healthcare, but given the current state of the NHS the Irish healthcare system is at this stage almost on an equal footing.

mincedtart · 21/04/2023 12:02

summerfinn · 21/04/2023 11:53

Perhaps I should just take the post down. I'm sorry for offending anyone. But the mean comments aren't helping my depression. I put it in the wrong thread title I'm sorry. Also sorry that my DP earns that amount. It's not my fault. I don't have many friends so maybe this thread has put it all into perspective. I'm lucky and should just stop complaining. 🙈

Probably for the best.

The “sorry my DP earns that amount” was an unnecessary tantrum sentence. Many of us out earn your DP - that’s not what the issue is. It’s your stance that you don’t live a good enough life on (by any standards) good money, whilst not even working yourself.

Goodoccasionallypoor · 21/04/2023 12:03

Littleheart5 · 21/04/2023 12:01

I’m Irish, living in Ireland @Goodoccasionallypoor , it’s all true.
Yes, many people pay for private healthcare, but given the current state of the NHS the Irish healthcare system is at this stage almost on an equal footing.

Yeah, that's a fair comment.

I do think Irish taxpayers get poor value for money in general though.

Mooshamoo · 21/04/2023 12:03

Let them eat cake

Gondala · 21/04/2023 12:04

summerfinn · 21/04/2023 11:53

Perhaps I should just take the post down. I'm sorry for offending anyone. But the mean comments aren't helping my depression. I put it in the wrong thread title I'm sorry. Also sorry that my DP earns that amount. It's not my fault. I don't have many friends so maybe this thread has put it all into perspective. I'm lucky and should just stop complaining. 🙈

It sounds like you have a real issue OP but it is not money related. If you had more money, you would probably blow it on shite. You are using money to try and make you happier. You need to look at the actual causes of your unhappiness and address them.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 21/04/2023 12:04

Sorry I don't buy the "woe is me sorry I'm richer than you and I still don't have money or friends" line.

As I said before. Tax isn't the issue here. Think about what the real issues are then come back. You're setting your expectations too high for what you can afford.
You can sit on a castle but friendships would be worth more. Can you invest time into friendships?

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 21/04/2023 12:05

Gondala · 21/04/2023 12:04

It sounds like you have a real issue OP but it is not money related. If you had more money, you would probably blow it on shite. You are using money to try and make you happier. You need to look at the actual causes of your unhappiness and address them.

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Exactly

Hellybelly84 · 21/04/2023 12:05

summerfinn · 21/04/2023 11:53

Perhaps I should just take the post down. I'm sorry for offending anyone. But the mean comments aren't helping my depression. I put it in the wrong thread title I'm sorry. Also sorry that my DP earns that amount. It's not my fault. I don't have many friends so maybe this thread has put it all into perspective. I'm lucky and should just stop complaining. 🙈

OP, could the depression be fuelling over spending? I hope you are seeking help for that because feeling low can often make us want that instant hit from buying something. I know myself that when its been a stressful week, im tempted to spend but really its a few minutes of happiness and I dont want my family saddled with debt.

I hope you can overcome the depression and learn that everyone budgets on every salary. I know from a family member who deals with very wealthy people (aristocrat types) that they are often in scruffy old clothes because they are not chasing the ‘instagram perfect dream’ we are fed all the time. They’ve always had money so they dont need to impress anyone.

If you posted a breakdown of money in and money out, people could help you.

weirdoboelady · 21/04/2023 12:06

OP, sorry if I accused you of being a troll when it turns out MN moved your post to an inappropriate board. The tone is wrong FOR THIS BOARD, but it doesn't invalidate your feelings or reality. I think you have plenty of scope to reorganise finances, though, and it might help your current unhappiness if you did a budget and thought about what you can change - this will cheer you up by giving you some control about what's going on with your finances.

There's a very good budget planner on moneysavingexpert.com - you could start at https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/money-help/

I'm sort of similar in that I am lucky enough to have enough money to last me the rest of my life, but I still like to take control and feel that I'm not paying over the odds for things!

Nannyamc · 21/04/2023 12:06

You receive child benefit as everyone is entitled to it. You also claim disability payment. Nursery is free...so all in all your income is higher than this?

mincedtart · 21/04/2023 12:07

PinkPlantCase · 21/04/2023 12:00

@mincedtart Disabled people still need to exercise. If you’re going to pick apart the OP then go ahead but it’s wrong to assume that disabled people can’t or don’t need any exercise. It could be an important part of managing an illness or condition.

That’s not my point at all. It’s the fact that she has the luxury of putting children in private childcare in order to work out, and still complains about her quality of living.

EllenLRipley · 21/04/2023 12:07

You don't get anything back at all?😂😂
Did you stamp your foot and wave your fists when you said that. The spoiled 3 yo you are.

Slitheringheights · 21/04/2023 12:07

literalviolence · Today 10:12
totally agree, I work very hard in my warehouse job at 10.75 ph. It annoys me when people say that! 👍

TheOrigRights · 21/04/2023 12:09

Even with that wage it's difficult to get by these days with the cost of everything

Maybe if you had mentioned you have a disability and suffer from depression which impacts why you are finding things difficult, you might have had more supportive responses.

Surely you can see that complaining about "only" having 5500 Euros a month net income wasn't going to get you a great deal of sympathy. It's useful to paint a fuller picture in your original post.

Custardslices · 21/04/2023 12:10

I feel your pain

I earn 200k my DH earns 325k my DS earns 230k

It's terrible out there. We are all with you😛

Mooshamoo · 21/04/2023 12:11

Slitheringheights · 21/04/2023 12:07

literalviolence · Today 10:12
totally agree, I work very hard in my warehouse job at 10.75 ph. It annoys me when people say that! 👍

I also HATE when rich people say "well we are rich because we worked hard".

I've seen many rich people tell poor people that it is their fault that they are poor. To just stop being poor.

It is not always about working hard. Or that you deserve to be rich because you worked hard.

And it is not poor people's fault that they are poor.

People are poor for many different reasons.

My father left my mother and wouldnt give her any money .

My mother worked hard. We were still always poor as she had to pay everything out of one salary.

She did work hard! We still weren't rich.

MargotBamborough · 21/04/2023 12:12

Stop being goady, OP.

€11,000 per year is a gross salary of €132,000. It is more than enough for a family to live on, and save a deposit for a house if they do not already own, even if one adult chooses not to work.

PussBilledDuckyPlait · 21/04/2023 12:15

How is it that people are capable of doing work skilled enough to be worth these enormous salaries, yet apparently not capable of the most basic budgeting?

whynotwhatknot · 21/04/2023 12:15

youre not a middle income earner my dh earns 40k and i consider him middle-my dsis earns what your dp gets a month , yearly

you need to budget better

blackpearwhitelilies · 21/04/2023 12:17

I used to work in Ireland and they do take a fair whack of the salary. The net amount for me, though, did include deductions for health care that was sorted through my employer and covered a family of four.

Mooshamoo · 21/04/2023 12:20

Sometimes I despair at Ireland. I live in Ireland. The rich/poor divide is very noticeable because it is a small country.

I grew up poor in Ireland and I was certainly made to feel it. Now I am comfortable enough with money but I don't forget what it is like to be poor.

However, Ireland at the moment has a lot of very wealthy people and I see the people that grow up in wealth in Ireland to all be very similar to each other:

They are small-minded.
They are quite nasty and selfish.
They are blinkered.
They are nasty to poor people.
No sympathy for poor people.
They think it's poor people's fault that they are poor. They wouldn't touch a poor person with a broom.
Money and status is everything..no sympathy for people who are suffering.

Indeed, I remember when there was a very high up woman in Ireland (I think she worked at the top of a homeless charity) said that it was the homeless people's in irelands fault that they are homeless.