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MLM Bot Watch 74: The latest thread about desperate bots desperately botting

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Spongebobette · 25/11/2022 19:09

New Fred

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BoganKiwi · 01/01/2023 11:20

Nurse has started private counselling and CBT sessions based on her years of psychiatric experience.
I'm bloody delighted that she's realised her own capabilities (sans gloop) and really I hope it goes well.

Spongebobette · 01/01/2023 12:27

That is very cheering New Year news

well done to her for building on her own training and experience rather than expecting to find gold at the end of an MLM rainbow

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SnoogyWoo · 01/01/2023 12:39

Yes I thought her new advert looked good and she will get clients due to her credentials. Well done Nurse.

stockpilingallthecheese · 01/01/2023 13:22

SnoogyWoo · 01/01/2023 12:39

Yes I thought her new advert looked good and she will get clients due to her credentials. Well done Nurse.

I mean, I think it's great she's doing it but the advert doesn't look great - she's spelt therapies wrong for one thing Confused🤦🏼‍♀️

Lunde · 01/01/2023 13:22

Do you need to have specific qualifications to offer CBT in the UK?

YouOKHun · 01/01/2023 19:04

@Lunde ideally a CBT therapist should have a post graduate qualification (during which they will receive on-the-job close supervision and eventually full accreditation with the BABCP). They will usually have a core profession, MHN, social work, medical qualification or a psychology degree, but they will still be required to do the CBT specific training. If a trainee doesn’t have a core profession then they have to do an extra submission which is a lot of work but vital. Nurse doesn’t have any qualifications to work as a CBT therapist and she would need to do the above to then accredit. This is what I did for my training. I doubt she is correctly insured, I doubt she is fully ISO registered and I can see that she is clueless and has poor judgement. I wouldn’t want to put my mental health in her hands frankly.

unfortunately out in the Wild West of private practice there is little to stop someone calling themselves any type of therapist and a proliferation of CBT courses “leading to accreditation” with some Micky mouse outfit. Nurse is at the less dangerous end of that as she’s used to seeing patients but it doesn’t equip her to offer CBT of the quality vulnerable people deserve. Who’s supervising her??

Spongebobette · 01/01/2023 19:11

I foolishly assumed she’d be doing this properly @YouOKHun as it’s related to her current

but she’s probably not even realised that if she sees a patient in her current role there’s a whole system supporting her whereas when she’s on her own it’s completely different
Anyway she’s probably setting everything up with advice from Entrepreneursity rather than mental health professionals

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YouOKHun · 01/01/2023 20:18

Exactly @Spongebobette shes been operating within a system doing what she’s trained to do as a MHN and this isn’t the case as a CBT therapist in private practice.

Specific training is as much about knowing your own limitations and taking difficulties and questions to a clinical supervisor; someone with specific CBT skills greater than one’s own. Proper accreditation means reaccrediting every year and having your practice examined - and so it should be. She’s got full clinical responsibility as a therapist so if someone leaves her therapy room and then harms themselves she needs to know the specific protocols as a therapist because it will be her at the inquest. I’m sure she knows a lot about managing risk and has some very useful and relevant skills and knowledge but not enough to exempt her from the training; which she could have completed by now if she hadn’t been pissing around with FLP.

I’m sounding dramatic talking about risk and inquests but specific training is so important for everyone’s safety, including her’s.

I feel Nurse is just looking for the next low barriers to entry opportunity. It’s great if she’s moving away from MLM but I’m not convinced she is. I just don’t trust her judgement - anyone so easily taken in by the likes of Yawn, Castle and Fierce isn’t credible.

SnoogyWoo · 01/01/2023 20:21

So Yawn was on Twinbots (not sure of her bot name) weight loss programme, she’s just posted a testimonial from Yawn on her insta stories!

Spongebobette · 01/01/2023 20:21

She does seem to be a bear of very little brain

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Spongebobette · 01/01/2023 20:25

SnoogyWoo · 01/01/2023 20:21

So Yawn was on Twinbots (not sure of her bot name) weight loss programme, she’s just posted a testimonial from Yawn on her insta stories!

But I thought Yawn was the weight loss guru with a page devoted to advice?

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yoomoo · 01/01/2023 21:00

Long time lurker here but coming on to agree with the weight loss surgery theory about Yawn. She’s lost a lot of weight fast and it’s not been done with aloe gloop! I’ve just had a gastric sleeve myself and it’s pretty obvious when people have had that surgery, no alcohol and side plates, never shows how much she’s actually eaten either!

YouOKHun · 01/01/2023 21:36

@SnoogyWoo can you give a clue for Twinbot please - I can’t think who it is!

@yoomoo I think the possibility of some sneaky surgery is looking increasingly like the truth of Yawn’s weight loss journey. It wouldn’t matter if she wasn’t conning a lot of people to sell them C9s/the opportunity. It’s a shame MLM huns appear to be so untouchable from a consumer protection perspective isn’t it?

SnoogyWoo · 01/01/2023 22:30

Just sent you a PM @YouOKHun

Myusername2015 · 01/01/2023 22:43

I’ve got a friend who knows Yawn well…apparently she had a gastric sleeve earlier in the year which accounts for her weight loss…such a fraud pushing her shakes etc.

yoomoo · 02/01/2023 07:24

The thing is it would be fine if she was honest about it and said she’d had the surgery but was using the forever shakes for protein etc. it’s a really important part and a lot of us who’ve had sleeves still drink protein shakes as one meal a day. But to pretend it’s been done using a plan she’s made up herself is very dishonest!
In fact she’d probably actually get more business if she were honest because there are a lot of Insta accounts of people who’ve had sleeves and I’m sure some would buy her shakes!

Spongebobette · 02/01/2023 08:45

I must admit I didn’t think Yawn had any friends!

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 02/01/2023 09:34

Myusername2015 · 01/01/2023 22:43

I’ve got a friend who knows Yawn well…apparently she had a gastric sleeve earlier in the year which accounts for her weight loss…such a fraud pushing her shakes etc.

I'm not sure this can be the case. She'd have been in hospital, plus recovery time, but there has been no dip in her social media presence at all. I think it's more likely that she's been on Ozempic/Saxenda.

yoomoo · 02/01/2023 09:41

I was only in hospital overnight for my sleeve and there’s not really a recovery time unless you work a very manual job, I was back at work 3 days after!

NormalForNuneaton · 02/01/2023 10:51

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 02/01/2023 09:34

I'm not sure this can be the case. She'd have been in hospital, plus recovery time, but there has been no dip in her social media presence at all. I think it's more likely that she's been on Ozempic/Saxenda.

Someone as media savvy and as obsessed with selfies as Yawn would have a pre-prepared stack of posts ready to cover any "absence".

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 02/01/2023 11:25

yoomoo · 02/01/2023 09:41

I was only in hospital overnight for my sleeve and there’s not really a recovery time unless you work a very manual job, I was back at work 3 days after!

Oh wow! I had no idea, in that case I stand corrected!

yoomoo · 02/01/2023 11:31

It’s a really simple keyhole procedure so very easy to have it done without anyone knowing, until the weight loss shows 😀

PieonaBarm · 02/01/2023 18:47

I knew there must be a reason as to why Yawns been successful this time over other times. I have absolutely no problem with weight loss surgery if that's what you need to help you, but don't claim the loss is then the result of something else in order to take advantage of people who are vulnerable - now in two ways - vulnerable as they want the losses she's had, and vulnerable to a get rich quick scheme.

She's even worse than I thought she was.

Beetlekiwi · 02/01/2023 23:06

Castles ex BFF has posted a vague, slightly ominous prediction for the year ahead. She’s forewarning us that 2023 may not be her year but she’s fine with that as long as she’s happy/grateful etc..

The cracks are starting to appear. Under pressure indeed!

Spongebobette · 03/01/2023 06:44

But she’s back on the treadmill ‘starting a detox’ and ‘on a mission to double the amount of women I help this year’

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