MLM Bot Watch 65: Get your bikini-bod for your Inteletravel holiday here!

[acatcalledjohn]

New Fred.

Travel boom, anyone?

PhD. I'm not sure if even she herself knows what she's on about.

'Thoughts from the beach this evening...

💫 I’m not scared of failure.

💫 I’m not scared of what other people think of me.

💫 I’m not scared of rejection.

💫 I’m not scared of being misunderstood.

What I’m truly scared of is a cage.
Four walls closing in on me.

No choice.
No freedom.

A life dictated by someone else because I was never brave enough to face my fears.

Having to say no because my bank balance won’t let me say yes.

These are the things I’m truly afraid of.

So every day I remind myself that if I desire to stay free, to always have choice, to dictate my own life and to live a life without financial constraint...

👉🏻 Then my life will probably be full of failure.

👉🏻 It will probably be full of people judging me.

👉🏻 It will probably be full of rejection.

👉🏻 I will probably be often misunderstood.

So there is zero point wasting my energy fearing these things.

Do you see that?
Do you feel that?

I hope so 🖤🖤🖤'

Pure dead bonkers

@Garliccoriander I see what you mean .

Messiah's page has all but gone. No posts, nothing but DOB and cover photo

@Garliccoriander summat’s up with Messiah but I’m not sure what. I think he’s cleaning up his Facebook and generally behaving rather differently. Much less posting since Christmas. I think he may be getting some unwanted attention in Dublin from both Press and Gardai.

Homeschool has also gone quiet about the choc chicken cartilage empire though there is some link to product through one of her many “success” websites. I think she’s really going for a crypto scam which has been compared to Onecoin. It won’t end well. Weird W also much quieter than last year.

Weird W still wants everyone to take his low self esteem test

Ah yes, I see WW is picking up the frequency of posts just a touch. The engagement in the recent posts is very low with only his sidekick a reliable source of likes. Can anyone explain to me how someone like him survives? If I was running a coaching endeavour like his with such little interest I would need a full time job to prop it up but he doesn’t appear to be doing anything else and hasn’t mentioned delivering vegetables for ages.

He must be working I think - delivery driver still of perhaps something else

*or

He’s not done one of his super weird intense lives since Feb 1

Does anybody know what happened with Homeschool and FLP? She says she was 'terminated from her MLM' and lost everything?

@mermaidtales

Does anybody know what happened with Homeschool and FLP? She says she was 'terminated from her MLM' and lost everything?

They changed the comp plan so she stopped making much money with FLP so she joined another MLM at the same time. They didn't like that so told her to quit modere or be sacked from FLP but she decided to quit FLP and go full time with modere I believe. At some point before quitting FLP she also went bankrupt

Of course she never mentioned any of this at the time - she continued to project the fantastic lifestyle fantasy and recruit others into the scheme she now claims was stopping her make money

She went bankrupt but only admitted to it when people started to post on her FB about it, as replies to her posts about how well she was doing
She couldn’t delete and block fast enough to stop her followers seeing them so she did a video with her dungareed husband and spun it as a life lesson of something

The dishonesty and lies just go on and on

I can't believe she's still saying she earned 25k a MONTH though! At least make it believable like 5k or something.

Oh I don’t know @Bluewavescrashing, if her audience follows her because they actually find her credible then they must be gullible enough to accept almost anything without the tiniest bit of research. She might as well go for it and claim she earned eleventy billion pounds and bought WW a new pair of gold plated dungarees every week.

For those of you who are new to the threads... this is my why and what brought me here

In 2016 one of my friends started posting on Facebook about her amazing business and her amazing up line who happens to be home school. I was shocked at her change of personality and messaged her to ask some questions, quite politely, And she was incredibly defensive. She trotted out some lines that were clearly copied and pasted from somewhere else. All about how jealous people were negative about MLMs and how her amazing up line had nurses, ministers, and teachers in her team. And then she blocked me before I could respond.

I had never heard the term MLM before. So I searched on forever living and MLM and found these threads. I am so grateful that I did because it explained so much

My friend disappeared from Facebook a few months later. She then appeared on Instagram a couple of years ago with no mention of forever living. So I messaged her and we chatted about children and so on and I casually asked her about her business and she said that she was a bit too busy at the moment with other things but that she would pick it up in the future sometime and that is what is so great about this business.

Then she disappeared from Insta a few weeks later. She clearly got burned but cannot admit it

So I have a personal reason for following homeschool’s story. It is my belief that she brainwashed and exploited my friend and that these earnings that she boasts of were the result of persuading vulnerable people to part with their money

Homeschool was recently peddling the secret to more "engagement".

Firstly she doubled her engagement by responding to every comment that said post illicited.

A random perusal of those that had "engaged" showed that they were all loons of a similar ilk from around the World peddling whatever scam she's in now.

She really is a vile creature whose only intention is to continue to rip people off for her own enrichment.

@Lemming20

Yawn has a video on her Facebook thanking FLP for some ‘very generous gifts’. They are in my humble opinion absolute tat. However interestingly she mentions a woman who ‘introduced’ her 12 years ago to FLP. First name is the singer of Proud Mary. Do we know who this is?

Yes she used to be a physio and was married to a rugby player who played for Worcester warriors

I don't doubt that homeschool did earn over £25k in a month. Very likely that was just one month though and as more of your team become managers, your earnings drop, which is why you have to be consistently recruiting every month.

The trouble is that there was a boom at that time and lots of the bots were earning a lot of money but they were not wise with their money. They all rented very big and expensive houses. Flashy cars. Splashed the cash on designer clothes, expensive holidays, big parties. And none of them invested or saved any of it. And unfortunately they were all naive enough to believe that their earnings were sustainable, which we all know is not the case after seeing the decline in cheques and CCs. So now most of them have much lower incomes and have had to downgrade their lifestyles. But their accounts on companies house tell the real story

Yes, I’d urge anyone who would like accurate info to search on Companies House for the ‘top earners’ - it’s an eye opener

You can see the downward trajectory of Forever Living Products UK in their own company accounts

And you can see the boom years with the big cheques - when Yawn was able to buy her house, for example, big cheque in 2016
Much smaller in 2017
Zero in 2018
Zero in 2019
Zero in 2020

Very true @ToBotOrNotToBot, the peak of FLP was really a very small moment in time with some lucky enough to coincide their recruitment activities with that moment, no business acumen required. The problem with the requirement to recruit and keep on recruiting is that showing your investment portfolio or healthily topped up pension just doesn’t sell the dream like a leased Rangey and a rented castle or 3 terms at a local prep school. I feel sorry for the children of some of these long term scammers, having to have their every private moment shared with downlines and perverts (who knows who is looking?) and having a rather precarious life even though I’m sure they are much loved.

I’d love to know the state of Homeschool’s finances. That Buzzcoin thing is definitely a scam and I can’t see how she is going keep herself away from more trouble, perhaps not the Insolvency agency this time but something altogether more criminal; it’s either get fleeced or do the fleecing and end up with a criminal conviction. I think the crypto scams have much greater potential for getting their bots into trouble and there seems to be (from what I understand from others who know about these kind of scams) many more sinister people than found in the choc chicken cartilage world. I know Homeschool is just a hapless bot trying her luck but still, in desperation to achieve the dizzy heights of those couple of months in 2016 in FLP, she is dipping her toe in altogether more shark infested waters.

Sadly I have 3 huns on my FB. 1 BSAH, 1 Tropic and another who was in FLP, but has started life coaching.

All mums, 2 single mums, and it's painful to see these ladies beg for sales and engagement. I'm most worried about the one in Tropic, as her baby is due any minute.

I did BSAH A very very long time ago, and then Virgin Vie. I learnt a very hard lesson with VV, watching women spend an enormous of money to reach their Car levels, to go on incentive trips, spending hours standing in shopping centres "pioneering" - it was awful, and the pressure was intense.

Anyway. I'm trying to figure out who castle is...can I have a clue?

@lachy if you Google “Forever Living+Castle” all will be revealed.

Did Virgin Vie go bump? I have a vague recollection of someone selling it years ago.

Another newbie to the thread here. I’ve been reading about the Shannan Watts murder and her involvement in the Le-Vel Thrive MLM in America. It’s crazy, she was portrayed as one of the company’s success stories, yet had filed for bankruptcy in 2015 and was in dire trouble again, in arrears with the mortgage and 20 maxed out credit cards, some in her young daughter’s name. There was over $20k of product in the basement of her home and it appears that she wasn’t earning anything. If you Google ‘Shannan Watts vision board’ you can see how delusional she was, things like ‘Mortgage free in 2 years’ but wasn’t even making the monthly payments. She’d made her 4 year old daughter Bella do a board, which is possibly the most sad thing I’ve seen.

Oh yes I’ve seen bots get their kids to do goal boards and it’s never ‘go to university’ or ‘learn a skill’. Nothing altruistic either, it’s always very materialistic
Dreadful way to teach your children what’s important

The bots’ own goal boards always put me in mind of children cutting stuff the want out the Argos catalogue